Future of Nagy

[jackrabit1]

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A few years ago I interviewed Coach Stig and one of the questions I posted to him was the rumors that he was being considered at Nevada.... He told me he doesn't read message boards and I could almost feel him giving me the "stink eye" through the phone line.

Fact is, Nagy thought about leaving once before when they were 6-24. In fact, he was pretty sure he'd get canned. Now? Unless it was some out-of-this-world opportunity, I don't see him going anywhere anytime soon. In other words, Nagy is a "Lifer".

[joeboo22]

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A few years ago I interviewed Coach Stig and one of the questions I posted to him was the rumors that he was being considered at Nevada.... He told me he doesn't read message boards and I could almost feel him giving me the "stink eye" through the phone line.

Fact is, Nagy thought about leaving once before when they were 6-24. In fact, he was pretty sure he'd get canned. Now? Unless it was some out-of-this-world opportunity, I don't see him going anywhere anytime soon. In other words, Nagy is a "Lifer".

And that is what I believe, he is not going to go to Colorado State, for a $300K raise, he might consider going back to Illinois, because that is where he and his wife are from, and its my understanding both of their parents still reside there. Though with kids in high school, I still think it would have to be an offer that would blow him away for him to do that until his kids are out of high school.

[Nidaros]

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And that is what I believe, he is not going to go to Colorado State, for a $300K raise, he might consider going back to Illinois, because that is where he and his wife are from, and its my understanding both of their parents still reside there. Though with kids in high school, I still think it would have to be an offer that would blow him away for him to do that until his kids are out of high school.

Come on Joe, we need to give this some breathing air. If Nagy leaves, there are no doubt a bunch of people who would love to take his place, and then again he just might stay for a while longer. Who knows!!

[jacks1]

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Come on Joe, we need to give this some breathing air. If Nagy leaves, there are no doubt a bunch of people who would love to take his place, and then again he just might stay for a while longer. Who knows!!

Best post in this thread....

[joeboo22]

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well the 1 job I thought he had a chance of being contacted and possibly taking has been filled, sounds like Southern Illinois will hire former Missouri State and current Kansas Director of Opps Barry Hinson..... Press conference scheduled for tomorrow

[CatchEmAll]

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I love how a guy with is first really good year at the DI level is a "hot commodity". Does anyone think Sell and his predecessor took some steps to try to make sure Nagy doesn't just jump at the first opportunity??? I do!

[BTownJack]

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Nagy's name has made a blog post - along with 9 other names though.

http://www.ramificationscsu.com/2012...tim-miles.html

[bigticket1]

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I think it would take two things to get Coach Nagy to leave - the job would have to be a major step up,and it would need to be closer to extended family back in Illinois. CSU definitely doesn't pass the distance test and granted it is a step up in salary,I just don't see it being enough of a step up to be of interest. Because SDSU stuck with him through some tough times,I think there will be some allegiance back on his part. Plus,the biggest reason to stay is that this team is poised to be in contention for NCAA tournament appearances for awhile. I don't see it being a one year run like it was with NDSU.

[joeboo22]

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I love how a guy with is first really good year at the DI level is a "hot commodity". Does anyone think Sell and his predecessor took some steps to try to make sure Nagy doesn't just jump at the first opportunity??? I do!

Yeah, it does happen, who had heard of the Ohio coach before they made their sweet 16 run? I think with what the assistants make at the big schools, that the mid-major/high-mid major or low-major's (Nebraska's) don't even bother to look at many assistants, they would rather look at the low D-I level for a coach and hope it sticks.

UAB hired an assistant from North Carolina, who had played at Kansas, no one had heard of the guy, and many were shocked they went that direction. Just seems that as of right now, assistants with no head coaching experience are not very popular right now.

Duke has 3 assistants (Wojo, Collins, and Capel) who all deserve to be mentioned for a job like Colorado St, but they aren't, because its not worth it for them to leave a Duke as an assistant for a job like Colorado St.

now watch Colorado St. hire one of these guys since I brought it up

[filbert]

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Nagy's name has made a blog post - along with 9 other names though.

http://www.ramificationscsu.com/2012...tim-miles.html

If I'm a CSU fan I'm a little unsettled that a relatively unproven (at D-I) coach like Nagy is in my "Top 10" list. The rest of the names--head coaches at "high-mid-majors" and/or previous ties to CSU, current assistants at CSU, or assistants at power-six programs all seem like more "acceptable" coaches than a guy who's had a total of two winning seasons at the D-I level. (Or Quin Snyder, but that's another story entirely.)

From what little I've gathered, the Colorado State community seems to want to continue the Miles momentum and become a serious player in the Mountain West. I don't think you do that and simultaneously go for what would kind of be a bargain-basement hire of Nagy. Also, CSU has a serious "little-brother" problem in Colorado, with CU just down the road, and sucking up most of the media oxygen for college sports in the Front Range. They'll want to make a splash with a coaching hire, if at all possible, and much as I respect Nagy and think he's probably worthy of such consideration, he simply won't have a "wow" factor that CSU might now be looking for. Just to add to the fun, I see that a very recent column in the Ft. Collins newspaper called the CSU athletic department "in a state of upheaval."

Having said that, Justin Sell and the boys need to get busy doubling (at least) Nagy's salary in the very near future, or he WILL start getting these kinds of offers if he can sustain some success in Brookings.

Anything's possible, of course, and if enough people turn CSU down I imagine at some point Nagy's phone would indeed ring. Never say never.

[joeboo22]

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If I'm a CSU fan I'm a little unsettled that a relatively unproven (at D-I) coach like Nagy is in my "Top 10" list. The rest of the names--head coaches at "high-mid-majors" and/or previous ties to CSU, current assistants at CSU, or assistants at power-six programs all seem like more "acceptable" coaches than a guy who's had a total of two winning seasons at the D-I level. (Or Quin Snyder, but that's another story entirely.)

From what little I've gathered, the Colorado State community seems to want to continue the Miles momentum and become a serious player in the Mountain West. I don't think you do that and simultaneously go for what would kind of be a bargain-basement hire of Nagy. Also, CSU has a serious "little-brother" problem in Colorado, with CU just down the road, and sucking up most of the media oxygen for college sports in the Front Range. They'll want to make a splash with a coaching hire, if at all possible, and much as I respect Nagy and think he's probably worthy of such consideration, he simply won't have a "wow" factor that CSU might now be looking for. Just to add to the fun, I see that a very recent column in the Ft. Collins newspaper called the CSU athletic department "in a state of upheaval."

Having said that, Justin Sell and the boys need to get busy doubling (at least) Nagy's salary in the very near future, or he WILL start getting these kinds of offers if he can sustain some success in Brookings.

Anything's possible, of course, and if enough people turn CSU down I imagine at some point Nagy's phone would indeed ring. Never say never.

I almost forgot, that Colorado St. was the school that had a donor, convince the president to fire the AD and then to hire the donor as the AD. I don't know about you, but that sounds like a recipe for disaster if I ever saw one. But then again, sometimes sh*t works

[bigticket1]

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The path to the power conferences is that of Miles. Continue winning and moving up to bigger schools, and eventually the opportunity may come along. If Nagy really wants to coach at that level (and I don't know that he does), he isn't going to get there from here barring a miraculous tournament run.

For comparison, Tim Miles reportedly made 585K and was scheduled to get a raise to 750K. CSU loses 3 seniors, supposedly has some nice redshirts, and they won 20 games this year, so their cupboard isnt' exactly bare either. Fort Collins is nice town in beautiful surroundings with amenities not available in Brookings.

Imagine this scenario: Coach Nagy goes to Colorado State. Say he wins 18-22 games a year and makes 2 tournaments over the next 5 years. He would be a shoe in for any mid-major job opening in his home state, and would have a decent chance at the Illinois job if it were to open up. Plus he would have a couple million more dollars to his name.

It could happen that way. But imagine this scenario : Colton Iverson gets four fouls per seven minutes of playing time like he did in his three years in Minneapolis,and the other redshirts turn out to be practice warriors,but not so much in games. CSU goes around .500 for three seasons,and doesn't sniff the NCAA's. Administration and boosters say "What happened ? We had a coach that got us in the Big Dance,and we haven't gotten close since this guy got here." Nagy ends up looking for a job,and has to take an assistant's position somewhere. The grass isn't always greener.

[joeboo22]

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It could happen that way. But imagine this scenario : Colton Iverson gets four fouls per seven minutes of playing time like he did in his three years in Minneapolis,and the other redshirts turn out to be practice warriors,but not so much in games. CSU goes around .500 for three seasons,and doesn't sniff the NCAA's. Administration and boosters say "What happened ? We had a coach that got us in the Big Dance,and we haven't gotten close since this guy got here." Nagy ends up looking for a job,and has to take an assistant's position somewhere. The grass isn't always greener.

Not disagreeing with the situation because that very likely could happen. Generally I'm a little skeptical of the we had a ton of great recruits red-shirt. However from the tea-leafs I've read Colorado St. is prepared to offer in the range of a $1M per year/ 3-5 years guaranteed. You put 3-5 Million in the bank and I don't care if you are fired, you can retire at the end of that job.

I think the thing with Tim Miles, is he wants to end up at Minnesota (or higher), and he has wanted to become the Gophers coach since he was a head coach in the DAC-10, probably longer. And because of that he has interviewed or shown interest in any and all jobs that will help him get to his goal.

Whereas Nagy, other then the time he applied, was planning on interviewing but I don't think he ever did at Bradly, has he ever publicly applied or shown interest in a job?

The one thing to note about the Colorado St. opening is they are using a search firm to find Tim Miles replacement. Which means I wouldn't be reading any tea leafs on who they will show interest in because when it comes to search firms, nobody really knows what they will do.

[CatchEmAll]

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Yeah, it does happen, who had heard of the Ohio coach before they made their sweet 16 run? I think with what the assistants make at the big schools, that the mid-major/high-mid major or low-major's (Nebraska's) don't even bother to look at many assistants, they would rather look at the low D-I level for a coach and hope it sticks.

It's called research joeboo
http://www.ohiobobcats.com/sports/m-...ce_john00.html

Just because the general population hasn't heard of Ohio U's head coach doesn't mean he's not a name within the coaching ranks. Read his bio. His pedigree is pretty stout. He's only been a head coach for four years, but his tenure as an assistant is pretty impressive and makes a guy like Nagy pretty easy to look past.

[filbert]

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Not disagreeing with the situation because that very likely could happen. Generally I'm a little skeptical of the we had a ton of great recruits red-shirt. However from the tea-leafs I've read Colorado St. is prepared to offer in the range of a $1M per year/ 3-5 years guaranteed. You put 3-5 Million in the bank and I don't care if you are fired, you can retire at the end of that job.

I think the thing with Tim Miles, is he wants to end up at Minnesota (or higher), and he has wanted to become the Gophers coach since he was a head coach in the DAC-10, probably longer. And because of that he has interviewed or shown interest in any and all jobs that will help him get to his goal.

Whereas Nagy, other then the time he applied, was planning on interviewing but I don't think he ever did at Bradly, has he ever publicly applied or shown interest in a job?

The one thing to note about the Colorado St. opening is they are using a search firm to find Tim Miles replacement. Which means I wouldn't be reading any tea leafs on who they will show interest in because when it comes to search firms, nobody really knows what they will do.

With search firms, you hand them a list of acceptable minimum criteria, and then they winnow through the potential candidates and hand you back a list based on your criteria. Which is why I tried to look at the situation from CSU's point of view in a previous post. It's possible that Nagy might make that list. It's also possible he wouldn't. Can't know unless we know the selection criteria.