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[goon]

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Every kid in every program has a legit shot at the NBA. Back in the 70's (get off MY lawn), a kid dropped out of a major college leaving his scholarship behind. Then he went to a small local school, but dropped out there too. Finally, he moved home and worked for the street department in his small hometown. He was picking up garbage, fixing streets, and mowing lawns. You would say that kid had no shot at the NBA. Turns out Larry Bird did all right in the league.

There are an almost infinite number of paths to the NBA. There are a ton of really, really interesting stories for a ton of NBA, NFL, and MLB players. Restricting some of those paths won't hurt the NBA or NCAA, it hurts the individual (athlete). You never know what will happen, limiting opportunities limits results.



As long as we are talking about unrealistic ideals, is the NCAA supposed to be about making money? Or is that what professional sports are for?



The keyword in your last statement is most. Most who are good enough get the opportunity to go to a major school. Most who are good enough get drafted. Most, but not all.

Simple solution. If a kid partially commits, cut him and revoke his scholarship if it is hurting your major program so badly. Go grab another 5 star recruit, and you are no worse off. If one out of 12 kids testing the waters hurts your program that badly, you don't have a good program.

I guess I think the NCAA could change policy to actually help kids develop or work to improve while not hurting its schools with players either leaving early or going overs before they finish. I think both the NCAA and pro sports could work better to help the kids with out hurting either their chance to stay in school or hurt the school if they impress testing the waters. I think it would be in boths sides interests to find a way that doesnt hurt either. The point of being a college athlete is do get a degree IMO and use sports as a way to help pay for that, if your a athlete using college sports just to get to the pros, they are going for the wrong reason. Like how they raised the minimum age to play most pro sports, I think thats a great start.

[Old Titan]

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If you were offended, you should probably just not watch college basketball. The only complaint I have is lack of creativity, as our student section chanted the same thing every student section in America chants.

PROUD to say NEVER in our place.

Stay classy, Jacks...

[RabbitObsessed]

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PROUD to say NEVER in our place.

Stay classy, Jacks...

OMG your university is so much better than SDSU!

I'm sure it's hard for empty seats with shirts thrown over them to chant much of anything, though.

[goon]

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PROUD to say NEVER in our place.

Stay classy, Jacks...

At least your mascot never was never in a fight on espn getting owned......oh wait.

Wise up.

[bigticket1]

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He can declare for the draft and then withdraw without any expectation of being drafted. Lots and lots of people declare for the draft every year, the majority do not get drafted, and a lot of them withdraw before the draft ever happens.

He would most likely not get drafted, and come back next year. But by declaring after putting up the kind of season he has, he would be more likely to show up on those lists (or higher on those lists) next year. It could/would raise his profile for next year, so he could be a 1st round pick instead of 2nd round or 2nd round instead of not drafted.

I'm sure there are a ton of reasons why a player wouldn't want to declare. I don't think Keith Benson declared early, nor did Alex Young.

So it really isn't anything more than bulletin board babble.

The system is a joke. The Gophers had Ralph Sampson the Turd and Rodney Williams both declare after last season - enough said.

[filbert]

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PROUD to say NEVER in our place.

Stay classy, Jacks...

Please refrain from smack in non-smack threads. This constitutes your first and only warning.

[Jacks-02]

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Pretty sure our head coach has never punted a basketball into the stands.

Stay classy, Titan.

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

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I guess I think the NCAA could change policy to actually help kids develop or work to improve while not hurting its schools with players either leaving early or going overs before they finish. I think both the NCAA and pro sports could work better to help the kids with out hurting either their chance to stay in school or hurt the school if they impress testing the waters. I think it would be in boths sides interests to find a way that doesnt hurt either. The point of being a college athlete is do get a degree IMO and use sports as a way to help pay for that, if your a athlete using college sports just to get to the pros, they are going for the wrong reason. Like how they raised the minimum age to play most pro sports, I think thats a great start.

The best system, IMO, would be one that encourages education as much as possible that also leaves a wide open door to enter the NBA. Those with ability shouldn't be restricted by a system that supposedly exists to make their lives better.

People go to college for a lot of reasons. Boil it all down, and getting a better life is probably the number one reason people go to college. If getting a better life means leaving college early to go pro, mission accomplished in my book.

If LeBron James were in high school today, the minimum age requirement wouldn't last long in a courtroom.

[goon]

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The best system, IMO, would be one that encourages education as much as possible that also leaves a wide open door to enter the NBA. Those with ability shouldn't be restricted by a system that supposedly exists to make their lives better.

People go to college for a lot of reasons. Boil it all down, and getting a better life is probably the number one reason people go to college. If getting a better life means leaving college early to go pro, mission accomplished in my book.

If LeBron James were in high school today, the minimum age requirement wouldn't last long in a courtroom.

For every James there are 100 more that would be total busts and ruin a chance to play college ball for ever losing that chance to have basketball pay for that chance to go to college.

[LakeJack]

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Hey isn't this your mascot?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI1HhlUsbG0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk4LfyLiTF4

Stay classy, Eagles . . .

[NebraskaJack]

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Old Titan, I could have swore after the last game you were making comments about how you would never go to another teams board and talk smack like SDSU fans do.....must have you mistaken for someone else huh?

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

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For every James there are 100 more that would be total busts and ruin a chance to play college ball for ever losing that chance to have basketball pay for that chance to go to college.

Only because NCAA rules wouldn't allow them to play... and only if they contact an agent...

Because 100 will fail, one man shouldn't be allowed to succeed?

Not one All-Star starter finished their college career. Four out of the 10 never wore a college uniform. Seven out of the ten spent less than 2 seasons in college. None played their Junior season (unless you count Wade who was academically ineligible his freshman year). One was drafted when he was 17 years old, the last year players out of high school could go pro.

Are you honestly telling me those 10 guys should have been forced to play the full 4 seasons and give up millions of earnings (31 total seasons), so that the NCAA and major conference teams could have a little more stability and revenue?

[goon]

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Only because NCAA rules wouldn't allow them to play... and only if they contact an agent...

Because 100 will fail, one man shouldn't be allowed to succeed?

Not one All-Star starter finished their college career. Four out of the 10 never wore a college uniform. Seven out of the ten spent less than 2 seasons in college. None played their Junior season (unless you count Wade who was academically ineligible his freshman year). One was drafted when he was 17 years old, the last year players out of high school could go pro.

Are you honestly telling me those 10 guys should have been forced to play the full 4 seasons and give up millions of earnings (31 total seasons), so that the NCAA and major conference teams could have a little more stability and revenue?

They didnt have to go to college if they just wanted to play pro ball. Are you saying college should only exsit in sports to funnel kids to the pros as fast as they can maybe many who are not ready to go yet. So you would risk 100s of kids failing out of college and skipping classes to have a shot to be the next Lebron and lose getting a free education when they could still take a stab at the pros after finishing college? So the NCAA should get rid of any policy designed to protect their self interest because only a tiny tiny fraction of guys are good enough to really make it in pros?

I just dont see why its such a bad thing for them to try to find away that would better both sides of the equation which inturn would probably benefit the most kids... But I guess you got your unions that will work to keep that from happening.

[bigticket1]

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Old Titan, I could have swore after the last game you were making comments about how you would never go to another teams board and talk smack like SDSU fans do.....must have you mistaken for someone else huh?

I believe he said he would never go to another team's board and talk smack after ORU beat them. Of course ,in this case, he didn't have to worry about that.

[RabbitObsessed]

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They didnt have to go to college if they just wanted to play pro ball. Are you saying college should only exsit in sports to funnel kids to the pros as fast as they can maybe many who are not ready to go yet.

College is one of the best preparations to play basketball professionally and kids should have that option. Many young people DO use college basketball as a way to prepare their game for the NBA level.

I'm really not sure if you're attempting to say this, so please correct me if I'm wrong, but are you trying to say that if kids want preparation for the NBA they should go play overseas instead of going to the NCAA for 1 year?