Who would replace Nagy

[slosho]

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This huge issue will come to light either when SDSU is forced to replace Nagy or Stiegelmeier. Those are the two jobs where this limitation will hurt the most.

I think you are missing a couple on this list. AJ!, DeHaven, Lang W., Liles Ect.
My point is the same as yours we have great coaching despite our offer limitations. But I believe that the folks in the AD are doing all they can to at least raise money from the alumni and fans (that would be you and I) so they can afford to offer better compensation to our great staff...

[joeboo22]

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I think you are missing a couple on this list. AJ!, DeHaven, Lang W., Liles Ect.
My point is the same as yours we have great coaching despite our offer limitations. But I believe that the folks in the AD are doing all they can to at least raise money from the alumni and fans (that would be you and I) so they can afford to offer better compensation to our great staff...

I don't know if he is saying losing any coach wouldn't be bad, hes saying that replacing the men's basketball coach and the football coach would be a lot tougher.

AJ makes $114,000 a year, which my guess would be comparable to what the MVC, MWC, and other mid-majors would be quite similar.

Nagy makes $105,000 a year, which is a third of what Northern Illinois coach made. Its less then what most 1st assistants make at major schools and even some high-mid-majors.

Losing any coach su<ks but some jobs are a lot easier to replace then others.

[minnesotarabbit]

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The idea of Ryan Miller coaching the Jackrabbits makes my skin crawl. Is that wrong? Probably, but I can't help it.

Why? because he scored like 50 pts on us.....It's about winning. Even if he was just using the job for a stepping stone and a better job, so be it as long as the Jacks make the tourney 1 or 2 times.

[JackrabbitGuy]

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I think you are missing a couple on this list. AJ!, DeHaven, Lang W., Liles Ect.
My point is the same as yours we have great coaching despite our offer limitations. But I believe that the folks in the AD are doing all they can to at least raise money from the alumni and fans (that would be you and I) so they can afford to offer better compensation to our great staff...

True. I know that the department is doing all it can with the money to fund the program. I just hope that as they continue to promote the program, the state will step up and realize that an exception must be made for athletic coaches (similar to what was done years ago in Montana) so that multi-year contracts can be offerred.

The athletic department has control over fundraising and is continuing to improve SDSU's situation in that respect, but they at this point have no control over the multi-year contract issue. The state must step up and change this to put our Division I universities to remove an inherent disadvantage they face in retaining and hiring new quality Division I coaches.

[filbert]

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We all know that regardless of all these "five year, X dollar contracts" that get negotiated, every single coach in the country is actually employed on a year-to-year basis. If they're lucky.

Quite obviously, not all of the compensation from most D-I coaches employed by state universities around the country is "state money." There are ways of structuring things so that the year-to-year state employment contract is just an element of--and a requirement of--an overall employment agreement with a coach.

One way to finesse the one-year-contract thing might be to have a separate contract--say with Jackrabbit Sports Properties or the SDSU Foundation--separate and distinct from SDSU as a state government entity--that would be a multi-year agreement, contingent on continued employment as coach by SDSU. (My guess is that it would be easier to do it through Jackrabbit Sports Properties since it's a brand-new partnership of SDSU and Learfield, but that's just a wild, uninformed guess.)

Thus you'd have something like a five-year agreement with Coach XYZ with a university (through a subsidiary), which is contingent on that coach's continued employment by the university.

All it requires is sufficient creativity. (OK, it might require some BOR policy adjustment, or possibly some amendment to existing state law) but it wouldn't necessarily require a blanket--or even a targeted--repeal of the year-to-year employment agreement with the State of South Dakota.

I'd guess at a minimum the BOR or State would have to either craft or approve the language which ties the external contract to employment by the state.

But it could be done.

[Jacks#1Fan]

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Curtain time! Coach Nagy won't be leaving (at least now, and I hope for quite awhile).

[jackmd]

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The idea of Ryan Miller coaching the Jackrabbits makes my skin crawl. Is that wrong? Probably, but I can't help it.

I'm with you but I bleed blue and yellow. I'm not all that happy that our A.D. and his right hand man are UNI guys or that our Jackrabbit Club guy is a Sioux fan. That said, I can get past my allegiances and recognize that business means business.

[bigticket1]

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Margenthaler's MSU-Mankato team won this afternoon in OT in their DII Elite 8 game to advance to the Final 4.

[JACKGUYII]

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Margenthaler's MSU-Mankato team won this afternoon in OT in their DII Elite 8 game to advance to the Final 4.

I think Margenthaler along with assistant and former Jack Mike Schott and Austin Hanson would be a great team if Nagy left.

[Jack4Life]

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Just saw TV's tweet that Michigan State assistant got the job. Nagy followed and said he was glad he will be at SDSU hopefully for a long time.

Ironically, just got back from picking up a sandwich at Subway and ran into a loyal Udot supporter and he told me he hoped Nagy would stay. He said he really respected Nagy, not only as a coach, but also as an outstanding person. That about blew me away.

[NoVaJack]

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Just saw TV's tweet that Michigan State assistant got the job. Nagy followed and said he was glad he will be at SDSU hopefully for a long time.

Ironically, just got back from picking up a sandwich at Subway and ran into a loyal Udot supporter and he told me he hoped Nagy would stay. He said he really respected Nagy, not only as a coach, but also as an outstanding person. That about blew me away.

Strange how an XSD fan can make Jacks' fans appreciate what they have, isn't it? Realistically, how far are the Jacks from the day that Nagy is standing on the sidelilnes at the opening huddle of a March Madness game? ...One signee in the next few days away???

The Jacks won 19 games in their fourth fulll D-1 season.. Fact.

Go Jacks

[Jacked_Up]

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Coach Nagy has paid his dues and more. I'm glad that he'll be staying, and I hope that he stays for a long time. There's been some struggles, but his program is definitely on the upswing.

[filbert]

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If I could, I'd give Nagy a ten-year contract right now, personally.

There's something special about that small, select group of coaches who hang in there at one place (and something special about the place, as well, that hangs in there with the coach) and carves a real lasting legacy out of a career that chews up and spits out lots and lots of good people.

I would like to think SDSU and Nagy among those very rare places and coaches. I just think that would be very, very cool.

I think Nagy has it in him to be that kind of "institution" type of coach--the guy who plugs away at some place for 30 years, and who doesn't need to Win It All for coaches like Self and Krzyzewski to look at him as a true peer.

I guess it remains to be seen whether or not SDSU has it in us to be that kind of place. I think we do, but we'll see.

[Pierre_Jacks_Fan]

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Filbert - I agree 110%.

[Madi V:)Mitchell]

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Coach Nagy has paid his dues and more. I'm glad that he'll be staying, and I hope that he stays for a long time. There's been some struggles, but his program is definitely on the upswing.

I totally agree. Nagy has done a great job, and I would be so sad if he left. He is an amazing coach, and a really nice guy.