2023 Polls

[Prairiehaas]

I think USD will still be in the top 15 with NDSU & SIU both jumping USD. Sacramento State will jump MtSt. I also expect Furman and Delaware at #2 & #3, though I don't think they deserve it.

[JackJD]

Here are the Sagain computer rankings following Saturday's (10/28/23) games.

Interesting to compare Sagarin's computer-based analysis to the two polls reported on the NCAA website, the FCS Coaches Poll and the Stats Perform Top 25 poll. Those polls should come out on Monday..

FCS rank (last week's FCS rank in Sagarin) / Sagarin Rank in all D1 (last week's all-D1 Sagarin rank) / School / Conference
1 (1) 36 (43) SDSU MVFC
2 (2) 72 (70) Montana State BIG SKY
3 (3) 84 (82) NDSU MVFC
4 (5) 97 (105) Southern Illinois MVFC
5 (4) 99 (100) Idaho BIG SKY
6 (9) 111 (122) Sacramento State BIG SKY
7 (8) 115 (118) Youngstown State MVFC
8 (7) 117 (116) Northern Iowa MVFC
9 (13) 120 (130) Montana BIG SKY
10 (6) 121 (113) North Dakota MVFC
11 (15) 122 (136) Delaware COASTAL
12 (10) 129 (125) Furman SOUTHERN
13 (11) 130 (127) Austin Peay UNITED
14 (12) 133 (129) South Dakota MVFC
15 (14) 134 (131) Central Arkansas UNITED
16 (23) 137 (145) Villanova COASTAL
17 (17) 138 (138) Illinois State MVFC
18 (16) 139 (137) Incarnate Word SOUTHLAND
19 (25) 142 (150) SE Missouri State BIG SOUTH/ OVC
20 (20) 143 (141) Holy Cross PATRIOT
21 (--) 145 (---) Albany-NY COASTAL
22 (21) 146 (142) New Hampshire COASTAL
23 (18) 147 (139) Chattanooga SOUTHERN
24 (--) 148 (---) Southern Utah UNITED
25 (--) 150 (---) Harvard IVY


Other MVFC and their Sagarin ranking relative to all 261 D! Teams:
157 Missouri State
198 Indiana State
203 Murray State
243 Western Illinois

Sagarin website: http://sagarin.com/

[JackJD]

Here are the FCS polls from NCAA.com for games through 10/28/23


FCS Coaches Poll:
Rank; School; Record; Points; Rank last week

1	South Dakota Stata (25)	8-0	625	1
2	Furman	7-1	577	3
3	Montana	7-1	544	5
4	UIW	7-1	533	4
5	Idaho	6-2	515	8
6	Delaware	7-1	507	6
7	Sacramento State	6-2	471	7
8	Montana State	6-2	458	2
9	North Carolina Central	7-1	407	10
10	North Dakota State	6-2	398	11
11	Southern Illinois	6-2	380	12
12	South Dakota	6-2	330	9
T-13	Chattanooga	7-2	296	15
T-13	Florida A&M	7-1	296	14
15	North Dakota	5-3	260	17
16	Lafayette	7-1	241	19
17	Austin Peay	6-2	218	20
18	UT Martin	6-2	179	13
19	Harvard	6-1	137	23
20	Western Carolina	5-3	124	16
21	Holy Cross	5-3	120	22
22	Villanova	6-2	107	NR
23	Northern Iowa	5-3	105	NR
24	William & Mary	5-3	83	24
25	Central Arkansas	5-3	73	18

Others Receiving Votes: Mercer, 50; Youngstown State, 44; Fordham, 27; UAlbany, 23; Illinois State, 7; New Hampshire, 5; Eastern Illinois, 3; Princeton, 2; Davidson, 1; Samford, 1.


Stats Perform Top 25 NOTE: the record for UNI is 5-3, not 7-1 as stated in the following Stats Perform chart on NCAA.com.
Rank; School; Record; Points; Rank last week:

1	South Dakota State (56)	7-0	1,400	1
2	Furman	7-1	1,278	3
3	Idaho	6-2	1,218	9
4	Montana	7-1	1,190	7
5	Delaware	7-1	1,171	5
6	Montana State	6-2	1,150	2
7	Sacramento State	6-2	1,074	6
8	UIW	7-1	980	8
9	South Dakota	6-2	964	4
10	Southern Illinois	6-2	862	11
11	North Dakota State	6-2	815	12
12	North Carolina Central	7-1	751	13
13	North Dakota	5-3	648	15
14	Chattanooga	7-2	578	17
15	Florida A&M	6-2	576	16
16	Western Carolina	5-3	516	10
17	Villanova	6-2	471	19
18	Northern Iowa	7-1	389	23
19	Austin Peay	6-2	387	20
20	Lafayette	7-1	354	21
21	UT Martin	6-2	314	14
22	Youngstown State	5-3	269	24
23	UAlbany	6-3	249	NR
24	William & Mary	5-3	184	22
25	Mercer	6-3	103	NR

Others Receiving Votes (schools listed on two or more ballots): Central Arkansas 94; Harvard 80; Holy Cross 48; Tennessee State 48; Tarleton State 14; Richmond 13; Gardner-Webb 5; UC Davis 3

[JackJD]

I think USD will still be in the top 15 with NDSU & SIU both jumping USD. Sacramento State will jump MtSt. I also expect Furman and Delaware at #2 & #3, though I don't think they deserve it.

You were very close to the polls particiulary the Coaches Poll.

[Prairiehaas]

Even a blind pig ... . I still think MtSt, Idaho and USD are better than Furman, Delaware and UIW. UIW at #4 is just obviously wrong. Putting NDSU, USD & UND in a group makes sense for now. Change to that will become obvious soon. I also think UNI is better than ranked, especially in coaches poll.

[JackJD]

Through the November 5 games, here's the FCS Football Coaches Poll:

1	South Dakota State (26)	9-0	650	1
2	Furman	8-1	612	2
3	Montana	8-1	603	3
4	Idaho	7-2	575	5
5	Montana State	7-2	533	8
6	South Dakota	7-2	492	12
7	North Carolina Central	8-1	491	9
8	Delaware	7-2	386	6
9	Florida A&M	8-1	378	T-13
10	UIW	7-2	368	4
11	Sacramento State	6-3	355	7
12	North Dakota	6-3	346	15
13	North Dakota State	6-3	324	10
14	Austin Peay	7-2	304	17
15	Southern Illinois	6-3	285	11
16	UT Martin	7-2	263	18
17	Chattanooga	7-3	258	T-13
18	Villanova	7-2	193	22
19	Harvard	7-1	191	19
20	Northern Iowa	6-3	161	23
21	Western Carolina	6-3	158	20
22	Holy Cross	6-3	129	21
23	Lafayette	7-2	91	16
24	Central Arkansas	6-3	79	25
25	Albany	7-3	67	NR

Others Receiving Votes: xxx



Here is the Stats Perform FCS Football rating, also through Nov 5 games:

1	South Dakota State (56)	9-0	1,400	1
2	Furman	8-1	1,298	2
3	Montana	8-1	1,279	4
4	Idaho	7-2	1,265	3
5	Montana State	7-2	1,190	6
6	South Dakota	7-2	1,110	9
7	North Carolina Central	8-1	907	12
8	Delaware	7-2	870	5
9	Sacramento State	6-3	857	7
10	North Dakota	6-3	812	13
11	Southern Illinois	6-3	730	10
12	North Dakota State	6-3	655	11
T-13	Florida A&M	8-1	654	15
T-13	Villanova	7-2	654	17
15	Northern Iowa	6-3	615	18
16	UIW	7-2	566	8
17	Western Carolina	6-3	517	16
18	UAlbany	7-3	504	23
19	Chattanooga	7-3	490	14
20	Austin Peay	7-2	477	19
21	UT Martin	7-2	348	21
22	Youngstown State	6-3	342	22
23	Mercer	7-3	183	25
24	Harvard	7-1	112	NR
25	Lafayette	7-2	90	20

Others Receiving Votes (schools listed on two or more ballots): Central Arkansas 75; Tarleton State 47; Holy Cross 43; Elon 41; Richmond 23; Nicholls 15; William & Mary 13; Tennessee State 9

[JackJD]

Sam Herder presents his seeds and bracket predictions as of this past weekend's (11/4/23) games and lays it all out in the following article:

https://herosports.com/fcs-football-...ctions-4-bzbz/

[Roy]

Sagarin has moved the Jacks up tp #26. Go Jacks!!

[Roy]

His seeds. Jacks, Mt State, Bison, Mt, ID, S IL, Furman and N IA.

[Prairiehaas]

I think our friends in Vermillion would argue that, vociferously.

[JackJD]

Sagarin has moved the Jacks up tp #26. Go Jacks!!

When I go to the Sagarin site, it shows the rankings through 11/4/23 games. I thought it was updated to include the 11/11/23 games but not I'm not sure. Checking further if my system is failing to update.

[filbert]

http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm

Says it's updated as of today, Sunday Nov. 12.

[Prairiehaas]

For FCS Sagarin has it SDSU, Bobcats, NDSU, Grizz, Fighting Elks, Skinny Dogs, Furman, IA North, UD, USD and the 'Guins. Interesting.

[JackJD]

I'm unsure why the prior week's rankings were showing up when I accessed Sagarin's website. I'm using a Chromebook right now.--usually I cut and paste the Sagarin info using a PC. I finally cleared the memory on the Chromebook and the current Sagarin (as of 11/12/23) showed up.

Here are the top 25 FCS schools in the Sagarin computer rankings following 11/11/23 games.

Columns

• Rank among just FCS teams
• Sagarin ranking among all D1 teams
• (Last week’s Sagarin ranking among all D1 teams)
• School--Conference

1. 26 (29) South Dakota State–MVFC
2. 60 (62) Montana State–Big Sky
3. 80 (78) North Dakota State–MVFC
4. 97 (97) Montana – Big Sky
5. 106 (113) Idaho–Big Sky
6. 113 (119) Southern Illinois–MVFC
7. 118 (118) Furman–Southern
8. 119 (125) Northern Iowa–MVFC
9. 122 (124) Delaware–Coastal
10. 123 (132) South Dakota–MVFC
11. 124 (131) Youngstown State–MVFC
12. 126 (130) North Dakota–MVFC
13. 129 (127) Villanova–Coastal
14. 130 (135) Sacramento State–Big Sky
15. 131 (126) Illinois State–MVFC
16. 134 (141) Austin Peay–United Athletic
17. 137 (146) Central Arkansas–United Athletic
18. 140 (136) Southern Utah–United Athletic
19. 143 (140) Weber State–Big Sky
20. 144 (152) UC Davis–Big Sky
21. 145 (151) Albany-NY –Coastal
22. 146 (137) Yale–Ivy League
23. 147 (148) Missouri State–MVFC
24. 148 (144) Tarleton State–United Athletic
25. 149 (153) New Hampshire–Coastal


Link: http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm

[JackJD]

Here's the FCS Coaches Poll through 11/12/23:

1	South Dakota State (26)	10-0	650	1
2	Furman	9-1	615	2
3	Montana	9-1	603	3
4	Montana State	8-2	563	5
5	South Dakota	8-2	529	6
6	Delaware	8-2	491	8
7	Florida A&M	9-1	446	9
8	Idaho	7-3	405	4
9	North Dakota State	7-3	396	13
10	Sacramento State	7-3	390	11
11	UIW	7-2	385	10
12	Austin Peay	8-2	364	14
13	UT Martin	8-2	333	16
14	North Carolina Central	8-2	285	7
15	Villanova	8-2	277	18
16	Chattanooga	7-3	244	17
17	North Dakota	6-4	227	12
18	Western Carolina	7-3	206	21
19	Harvard	8-1	195	19
T-20	Central Arkansas	7-3	135	24
T-20	Southern Illinois	6-4	135	15
22	Lafayette	8-2	133	23
23	Albany	8-3	131	25
24	Mercer	8-3	108	NR
25	Holy Cross	6-4	40	22

Others Receiving Votes: Eastern Illinois, 34; Northern Iowa, 33; Tarleton State, 29; Illinois State, 23; Youngstown State, 23; William & Mary, 9; Nicholls, 4; Rhode Island, 4; UC Davis, 4; Richmond, 1.

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/footba...s-coaches-poll