SDSU vs NDSU

[SD-STATE]

Re: SDSU vs NDSU

I'm with Jacks99, on the bison being a little over-rated. While they have played some quality IAA teams, I don't think those teams are on the same level as the IAA teams we've played. I would say that we'd have some more wins against scholly IAA teams if we were'nt playing those at the top of the rankings this year. The Fargodome isn't going to be a big deal either, the Jacks have played at more hostile places the past two years.

Jacks win on a McCall int, which he returns to the bison 32, and the douglas nuts one for the win... 17- 14

[filbert]

Re: SDSU vs NDSU

I'm with Jacks99, on the bison being a little over-rated. While they have played some quality IAA teams, I don't think those teams are on the same level as the IAA teams we've played. I would say that we'd have some more wins against scholly IAA teams if we were'nt playing those at the top of the rankings this year. The Fargodome isn't going to be a big deal either, the Jacks have played at more hostile places the past two years.

Jacks win on a McCall int, which he returns to the bison 32, and the douglas nuts one for the win... 17- 14

I don't think the Bison are overrated.

I think the Jacks are underrated, and get a chance to prove it in Fargo.

[jackrabit1]

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I was sad to hear the Pride of the Dakotas was not going to be in attendance. Big rivalry game, they should be there. Anyways it will be interesting to see this matchup of evenly talented teams.

Welcome, Amigo!

I understand why you're a little upset that the Pride won't be there. But with all the games they played at this season, I think it's safe to say they're about burned out. In fact, the last show of the season was the State-Southern Utah game.

It'd be great if the Pride made it up, give people up in Fargo a chance to experience what you can get when you get behind your bad. I remember talking with some people in the Star band while I was in the Pride... Talk about being treated like second-class citizens!

But it will be an excellent game. My only regret is that I can't make the trip up to Fargo to see it.

[FargoBison]

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I don't really see how the Bison are overated, please explain to me why you think this way. NDSU has beat some good IAA schools to earn this ranking. Weber State has gone on to beat Eastern Washington and they played Montana just as tough as SDSU did. NDSU beat Weber St 41-0. Nicholls State lost to Indiana on a last second drive and beat top ten Texas St(who crushed SDSU) and they also just beat Northwestern St last weekend. NDSU beat Nicholls State 26-13. Norhwestern St beat IA Lousiana Monroe and hadn't lost a non-conference game at home in 11 years. NDSU beat Northwestern St 35-7. And all of NDSU's losses are to quality teams. We did beat three cupcakes but NDSU has earned their ranking.

[Rabbit_FB_Alum]

Re: SDSU vs NDSU

I don't really see how the Bison are overated, please explain to me why you think this way. NDSU has beat some good IAA schools to earn this ranking. Weber State has gone on to beat Eastern Washington and they played Montana just as tough as SDSU did. NDSU beat Weber St 41-0. Nicholls State lost to Indiana on a last second drive and beat top ten Texas St(who crushed SDSU) and they also just beat Northwestern St last weekend. NDSU beat Nicholls State 26-13. Norhwestern St beat IA Lousiana Monroe and hadn't lost a non-conference game at home in 11 years. NDSU beat Northwestern St 35-7. And all of NDSU's losses are to quality teams. We did beat three cupcakes but NDSU has earned their ranking.

I am going to have to agree with you on this one. Back when I played (no too long ago), the Bison always played better than their reccord (even when their record was good), espically at home. Make no mistake, the Bison are good this year and will be a force to reckon with at home. That being said, I think this will be a close, hard faught game. It's a toss up who will win, but of course I'm pulling for the Jacks!

[OK_Jackrabbit]

Re: SDSU vs NDSU

I don't really see how the Bison are overated, please explain to me why you think this way. NDSU has beat some good IAA schools to earn this ranking. Weber State has gone on to beat Eastern Washington and they played Montana just as tough as SDSU did. NDSU beat Weber St 41-0. Nicholls State lost to Indiana on a last second drive and beat top ten Texas St(who crushed SDSU) and they also just beat Northwestern St last weekend. NDSU beat Nicholls State 26-13. Norhwestern St beat IA Lousiana Monroe and hadn't lost a non-conference game at home in 11 years. NDSU beat Northwestern St 35-7. And all of NDSU's losses are to quality teams. We did beat three cupcakes but NDSU has earned their ranking.

I can't believe that NDSU is overrated. They won some really tough road games and had a tough patch, struggling against teams I think they should have beaten. They're good. It's going to take a great effort to beat them. But SDSU is good, too. It should be a great game and like I said before, I think Parker Douglass is the difference.

[Jacks99]

Re: SDSU vs NDSU

I don't think the Bison are overrated.

I think the Jacks are underrated, and get a chance to prove it in Fargo.

I guess I agree with this statement.

However when SDSU wins ;D they should be the team sneaking into the top 25 and NDSU will be leaving. :P

[89rabbit]

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Hi everyone, I'm new to this. Just wanted to say that I am in the process of a tough decision on whether to go to NDSU or SDSU. I went to Senior Day and the game against Cal Poly and I was impressed by the Jacks, even though I was disappointed because I felt that they should have won. I am going to the game on Saturday in Fargo. My good friend is a freshman bass drum player in the gold star band. I was sad to hear the Pride of the Dakotas was not going to be in attendance. Big rivalry game, they should be there. Anyways it will be interesting to see this matchup of evenly talented teams.

I don't know if wr54 is an athlete or not but this is a good time to remind everyone about some NCAA rules that we as alums, donors, boosters, or any other "friend" (Collectively, the NCAA offially calls us "representatives of athletics interests&quot
of South Dakota State must follow.


As a "booster" we are prohibited from providing any "extra benefit" or any special arrangement to a student-athlete, prospect, or their relatives or friends.  

In NCAA Division I, representatives of an institution's interests are prohibited from making in-person, on or off campus, recruiting contacts, or written or telephonic communications with a prospect or the prospect's relatives or legal guardians.

If you know of a high school student-athlete who might want to attend SDSU, the only permissible activity for a representative is to call the appropriate coach at SDSU.

If you have any questions, please direct them to:

Kathy Heylens
Compliance Coordinator
PEC 255, SDSU
Brookings, SD  57006

or

kathleen_heylens@sdstate.edu

Or

call Kathleen Heylens at

(605)-688-5308

[TK22867]

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I don't know if wr54 is an athlete or not but this is a good time to remind everyone about some NCAA rules that we as alums, donors, boosters, or any other "friend" (Collectively, the NCAA offially calls us "representatives of athletics interests&quot
of South Dakota State must follow.


As a "booster" we are prohibited from providing any "extra benefit" or any special arrangement to a student-athlete, prospect, or their relatives or friends.  

In NCAA Division I, representatives of an institution's interests are prohibited from making in-person, on or off campus, recruiting contacts, or written or telephonic communications with a prospect or the prospect's relatives or legal guardians.

If you know of a high school student-athlete who might want to attend SDSU, the only permissible activity for a representative is to call the appropriate coach at SDSU.

If you have any questions, please direct them to:

Kathy Heylens
Compliance Coordinator
PEC 255, SDSU
Brookings, SD  57006

or

kathleen_heylens@sdstate.edu

Or

call Kathleen Heylens at

(605)-688-5308

Wow, that is one catch-all, all encompassing rule imposed by the NCAA. However I must admit there is no way this rule can be completely enforced. You've gotta think there are a lot of high school athletes out there who have conversations with relatives, friends, etc., who try to push them towards one school or the other.

Not to get too far off of the topic of this thread, but say my son is being recruited to play running back at SDSU. As his father and as an SDSU alum, does this mean I cannot even lend my "opinion" to him that he should go to State?

[jackmd]

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Wow, that is one catch-all, all encompassing rule imposed by the NCAA.  However I must admit there is no way this rule can be completely enforced.  You've gotta think there are a lot of high school athletes out there who have conversations with relatives, friends, etc., who try to push them towards one school or the other.

Not to get too far off of the topic of this thread, but say my son is being recruited to play running back at SDSU.  As his father and as an SDSU alum, does this mean I cannot even lend my "opinion" to him that he should go to State?

Don't read too much into the rule.  89 likes to play it close to the vest.  If a prospective SDSU athlete asks your opinion about SDSU you are free to give it if your intent is in no way as a "representative" of SDSU.  Of course, the NCAA gets the last call in deciding what they determine your intent was.

The role of Dad is pretty well-defined as a guy who gives his children advice (not always good but advice nontheless).

[89rabbit]

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Doc, you are giving me way to much credit.  I lifted that rule explanation from The Bum (football program).  I did edit it down as it went into greater detail so I guess the bottom line is, if you have any question as to NCAA Rules Compliance contact Kathleen Heylens to be safe.


Go State!  ;D

[SD-STATE]

Re: SDSU vs NDSU

The Sports Network I-AA Football Rankings
(As of 11/07/2005)
Rank School W-L Points Prev
1 UNH (57) 8-1 2634 2
2 Hampton (44) 9-2 2531 3
[glb]3 Montana (4) 7-2 2458 4 [/glb]
4 Southern Illinois 7-2 2327 5
5 UMass 7-2 2074 8
6 Furman 7-2 2058 1
[glb]7 Texas State 7-2 1882 10 [/glb]
8 Appalachian State (3) 6-3 1845 7
9 Coastal Carolina 8-1 1800 9
[glb]10 Georgia Southern 7-3 1694 14 [/glb]
11 Montana State 6-3 1559 12
12 Western Kentucky 6-3 1430 6
13 Lehigh 7-2 1409 13
14 UNI 6-3 1370 17
15 Cal Poly 6-3 1244 18
16 Grambling State 7-1 1002 19
17 South Carolina State 7-2 866 20
18 Richmond 6-3 699 23
19 Youngstown State 7-3 697 15
20 Brown 7-1 643 22
21 Eastern Washington 5-4 605 11
22 North Dakota State 6-3 567 24
23 Eastern Illinois 7-2 513 25
24 William & Mary 5-4 217 16
25 James Madison 5-4 168 NR

All I'm saying is that we've played 3 of the top 10 teams in I-AA, only one of the bison's oponets are ranked now and that is Mont. ST. And they have Southern Illiois coming up. I'm not saying that the bison are not a good team, just that if we switched a non-conf schedules are rolls would probably be reversed, with you guys telling us how over-rated we are. Just admit that those three teams we played are better than any of the three you've played.

[jackrabbit1979]

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As i left campus tonight i drove by coughlin and the boys were out practicing at about 8:30. I wondered why they would be practicing then and as i got closer i heard. They had music blaring from the sound system at the stadium and the offense was running plays from the south endzone directly in front of the scoreboard. It was loud , i could still here the music from my truck as i turned onto Hwy 14 from the road east of the stadium. The fargo dome will be crazy and loud, but i think we will be prepared.

[Da_Bizon]

Re: SDSU vs NDSU

In my opinion, the Jacks are favorites here.  I think NDSU is over-rated in the polls.

However history and the new rivalry will even it out.

I predict a score of 34-31 (for the record I was right on last year, so hopefully my luck is not gone ;D)

This game is bigger than most realize.  It's a must win for NDSU after there less than expected season so far.  For the Jacks it's a chance to really show where the program is at with two feats for the first time since 62/63.

NDSU is overrated in the polls?  I think someone is just jealous that they aren't good enough to get in.  All I've been hearing about is how great your rushing game supposedly is.  I can't wait til they meet Joe Mays and Co.  The Rabbits running game is the only overrated thing in the game this weekend.

Oh, and by the way, the final score will be NDSU:31, SDSU: 17.

[FargoBison]

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All I'm saying is that we've played 3 of the top 10 teams in I-AA, only one of the bison's oponets are ranked now and that is Mont. ST. And they have Southern Illiois coming up. I'm not saying that the bison are not a good team, just that if we switched a non-conf schedules are rolls would probably be reversed, with you guys telling us how over-rated we are. Just admit that those three teams we played are better than any of the three you've played.

So NDSU is overated because we haven't played three teams(combined) as good as Montana, Texas St, and GSU? Like I said NDSU earned their ranking by beating good teams and if NDSU and SDSU were to have switched schedules and SDSU had the same record and ranking there is no way I would call you overated. Weber St is rated 26th and NDSU shut them out(41-0), Nicholls State is 19th and NDSU beat them 28-13 in the dome. Nicholls is a team the beat Texas St and almost beat Big Ten Indiana.