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  • TK22867
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    Edit: I'm stupid #1.
    Last edited by TK22867; 12-13-2016, 11:06 PM.

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  • Nidaros
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    Originally posted by jakejc795 View Post
    You'll have to forgive me for interpreting TK's diatribe as supporting such a tack and for doing the same with statements made in the Bison GDT.

    It'd be great if similar questions were asked of those asserting that Stig "apologists" are basking in mediocrity.
    I wonder if I qualify to be an "apologist". Stig told me once in writing during his first season, that time would tell if he had a better program than Mike Daley. He also told me his program would be done the right way and by the rules. You see there was one game in his first season as head coach where the defense could not hold and we blew a lead. I wrote Stig a nasty letter asking if the defense went south with Coach Daley.He could have thrown my nastygram in a circular file, but instead he knew me as a loyal fan and rebuffed my nasty charge with those comments. I had it coming, no doubt about that, and I respected him more today than I did before I penned the nasty letter, because he took the time to put me in my place. Our program follows the rules and is done the right way.

    Some of those who crying for his head probably have never put on the pads and your life is not perfect but you seem to expect perfection from a 9-4 football team. I am willing to bet that the entire team and coach staff are very disappointed about how the game turned out Saturday. Now they wait for next year. Are you in?
    Last edited by Nidaros; 12-14-2016, 10:59 PM.

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  • Nidaros
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    Re: Playoffs 2016: Nova

    Originally posted by yoteforever View Post
    I know Meierkort is available!!!
    No thank you. Even though Ed got his Masters from SDSU, I don't think there would be a red carpet welcome or even a blue carpet Welcome.

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  • jakejc795
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    Originally posted by jack power View Post
    Who is suggesting he should be fired now?
    You'll have to forgive me for interpreting TK's diatribe as supporting such a tack and for doing the same with statements made in the Bison GDT.

    It'd be great if similar questions were asked of those asserting that Stig "apologists" are basking in mediocrity.

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  • Jacks#1Fan
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    Originally posted by TK22867 View Post
    I agree wholeheartedly. The clear line in the sand on this board is those who are satisfied waiting for the Bison to stumble and come back to us and the field, while others demand accountability for why we are not there already. That division is clear and won't be rectified anytime soon.

    My issue has always been about the playcalls in certain situations. These are not simply "bad" play calls as others have tried to sugarcoat it. These are bush league calls that are indefensible, yet no one else here wants to hold those coaches accountable for their utter stupidity in those situations. There, the bone is picked.
    The items of continued improvement over the past 5 years (with the exception of course of the 5 (maybe 6) time NCs), have already been enumerated. So I'll just leave it as this...noting that you have indicated that if Stig doesn't win a NC, and doesn't get fired...you'll be dropping out of existence, my question is: How will this board and program ever get along without you? Your bone will be picked clean.

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  • jack power
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    Originally posted by jakejc795 View Post
    I guarantee you that any coach you think could replace Stig will have a TK22867 somewhere railing against his "bush league" calls too.

    If you want to cherry pick statements, let me state it slightly differently, I want the Jacks to become a long-term competitor for the Bison, not a flash in the pan that may advance to the FCS Championship and then falter in subsequent years. Accountability does not always mean firing someone, and if you are going to fire a coach after a season like this one, you probably better be ready to change coaches every couple years.
    Who is suggesting he should be fired now?

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  • jakejc795
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    Originally posted by TK22867 View Post
    I agree wholeheartedly. The clear line in the sand on this board is those who are satisfied waiting for the Bison to stumble and come back to us and the field, while others demand accountability for why we are not there already. That division is clear and won't be rectified anytime soon.

    My issue has always been about the playcalls in certain situations. These are not simply "bad" play calls as others have tried to sugarcoat it. These are bush league calls that are indefensible, yet no one else here wants to hold those coaches accountable for their utter stupidity in those situations. There, the bone is picked.
    I guarantee you that any coach you think could replace Stig will have a TK22867 somewhere railing against his "bush league" calls too.

    If you want to cherry pick statements, let me state it slightly differently, I want the Jacks to become a long-term competitor for the Bison, not a flash in the pan that may advance to the FCS Championship and then falter in subsequent years. Accountability does not always mean firing someone, and if you are going to fire a coach after a season like this one, you probably better be ready to change coaches every couple years.

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  • OldHare
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    Re: Playoffs 2016: Nova

    Originally posted by bigticket1 View Post
    Wow, somebody needs a Snickers.
    Or maybe an updated resume.

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  • bigticket1
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    Wow, somebody needs a Snickers.

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  • TK22867
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    Originally posted by filbert View Post
    The main problem is that SDSU is just down the road a couple of hours from a program, the success of which puts Alabama to shame.

    THAT'S the big problem in Brookings.
    I agree wholeheartedly. The clear line in the sand on this board is those who are satisfied waiting for the Bison to stumble and come back to us and the field, while others demand accountability for why we are not there already. That division is clear and won't be rectified anytime soon.

    My issue has always been about the playcalls in certain situations. These are not simply "bad" play calls as others have tried to sugarcoat it. These are bush league calls that are indefensible, yet no one else here wants to hold those coaches accountable for their utter stupidity in those situations. There, the bone is picked.

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  • KUlawJack
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    Originally posted by filbert View Post
    The main problem is that SDSU is just down the road a couple of hours from a program, the success of which puts Alabama to shame.

    THAT'S the big problem in Brookings.
    So true. Proximity breeds more frustration than anything in this case. If this dynasty started 100s of miles away, we'd all be a better at discussing this.

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  • filbert
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    Originally posted by jakejc795 View Post
    Cripes, when did arguing for rationally examining the situation and realizing that progress has been made become being satisfied with mediocrity, and generally a .692 record isn't considered mediocre.
    The main problem is that SDSU is just down the road a couple of hours from a program, the success of which puts Alabama to shame.

    THAT'S the big problem in Brookings.

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  • yoteforever
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    I know Meierkort is available!!!

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  • jakejc795
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    Originally posted by TK22867 View Post
    So, when are we allowed to increase expectations for this program? Asking for a friend.
    The insistence that those of us who don't think Stig should be fired and might deserve at least another year are reveling in mediocrity and do not also have increased expectations is what's baffling.

    Rapid success is often rooted in unsustainable practices or reliance on a few key players and followed by irrelevance (think U of Miami), and I would much prefer continued success grounded on a stable foundation.

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  • OldHare
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    Originally posted by TK22867 View Post
    So, when are we allowed to increase expectations for this program? Asking for a friend.
    Could that also be the conversation among the football players and coaching staff???? They might be satisfied with winning the MVFC conference title and maybe just bag 2017.

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