Playoffs 2016: Nova

[jakejc795]

Re: Playoffs 2016: Nova

That is clearly a slam. My east coast friends think the U.S. ends after the western suburbs of Philly and it's all Mad Max territory west of that.

Well, I'll be a naive hick for falling for that Easterner's trick. Nevertheless, Brookings is pretty dang nice to me.

[jackmd]

Re: Playoffs 2016: Nova

I was thinking about the $20 ticket for the WNIT games that year, too. We outbid a lot of schools and hosted a lot of games. Most of the teams, that I remember, had their tickets being sold for $8/ticket. We were more than double that. When we lost in the final four, I think their tickets we only $8 each. They could hold a lot more fans but I don't remember why we didn't out bid them with our tickets being 2 1/2 times as much.
The athletic department has to be walking a fine line. They want to host these types of games and make as much money as they can per game without overpricing the ticket to scare away too many fans. I think a lot of younger fans that just graduated from college or have a family have to pick and chose if they can afford the games. The more established people don't have to work as much (in general).

As far as the game goes, I just wonder how Nova's smaller defense will match up with SDSU offense. They play a 3-3-5 on defense. Two of the three defensive linemen are really big but the third isn't as big. After that, they are really small. Will their quickness give our bigger OL and TE's a lot of problems or will we be able to bury them because of the size? If they crowd the box, you hit a 260# TE and will a 200# CB/S be able to bring him down? I can see us running the ball more in this game. USD was playing a safety at LB and we ran for over 400 yards against them. Will this be the same thing? They seem to have good numbers against the run so maybe their quickness will give SDSU problems but I don't know. There is only 1 game where SDSU was held under 3.9 yards/carry (in conference play). I think people are underestimating the running game. The passing game is more flashy be SDSU can run, too.

Stig talked about this on Monday night. He's concerned about their "speed" on defense. The odd numbered front is something we never see and that's going to throw the fat guys off. In the end he summed it up like he always does, each guy has to do his job on each play better then the guy across from him.

I like our chances.

[91jack]

Re: Playoffs 2016: Nova

Regular season tickets were $170 for the year. Of course, as much as $250 was required for the Jackrabbit Club. That would make a regular season ticket average up to $70/game down to $28/game for the corner where no Jackrabbit Club membership was needed. The $37-$47 just sounds to be high when looked at from a walk up price even though Hobo Day or USD were priced higher than the standard $32. I still encourage the guys sitting on the fence to buy the cheaper ticket and look for a better seat when the game starts. You can get an early look on the seating chart to find what is open. I recall that the WNIT a few years ago cost more for Frost than most of the other WNIT games, but the $20 per ticket gave us a chance to see the game at Frost. It is much like the Summit in Sioux Falls. The attendance made it very easy to bid and keep the tournament when the tickets get sold. I would not want to hear fans disappointed down the road because the athletic department did not get in a strong enough bid to host a football playoff game.

I was thinking about the $20 ticket for the WNIT games that year, too. We outbid a lot of schools and hosted a lot of games. Most of the teams, that I remember, had their tickets being sold for $8/ticket. We were more than double that. When we lost in the final four, I think their tickets we only $8 each. They could hold a lot more fans but I don't remember why we didn't out bid them with our tickets being 2 1/2 times as much.
The athletic department has to be walking a fine line. They want to host these types of games and make as much money as they can per game without overpricing the ticket to scare away too many fans. I think a lot of younger fans that just graduated from college or have a family have to pick and chose if they can afford the games. The more established people don't have to work as much (in general).

As far as the game goes, I just wonder how Nova's smaller defense will match up with SDSU offense. They play a 3-3-5 on defense. Two of the three defensive linemen are really big but the third isn't as big. After that, they are really small. Will their quickness give our bigger OL and TE's a lot of problems or will we be able to bury them because of the size? If they crowd the box, you hit a 260# TE and will a 200# CB/S be able to bring him down? I can see us running the ball more in this game. USD was playing a safety at LB and we ran for over 400 yards against them. Will this be the same thing? They seem to have good numbers against the run so maybe their quickness will give SDSU problems but I don't know. There is only 1 game where SDSU was held under 3.9 yards/carry (in conference play). I think people are underestimating the running game. The passing game is more flashy be SDSU can run, too.

[JimmyJack]

Re: Playoffs 2016: Nova

Haha, I seriously wonder how much luck people will have getting into Cubby's on Sat. I was impressed that one Philly reporter mentioned "beautiful downtown Brookings" in his article.

That is clearly a slam. My east coast friends think the U.S. ends after the western suburbs of Philly and it's all Mad Max territory west of that.

[OldHare]

Re: Playoffs 2016: Nova

Regular season tickets were $170 for the year. Of course, as much as $250 was required for the Jackrabbit Club. That would make a regular season ticket average up to $70/game down to $28/game for the corner where no Jackrabbit Club membership was needed. The $37-$47 just sounds to be high when looked at from a walk up price even though Hobo Day or USD were priced higher than the standard $32. I still encourage the guys sitting on the fence to buy the cheaper ticket and look for a better seat when the game starts. You can get an early look on the seating chart to find what is open. I recall that the WNIT a few years ago cost more for Frost than most of the other WNIT games, but the $20 per ticket gave us a chance to see the game at Frost. It is much like the Summit in Sioux Falls. The attendance made it very easy to bid and keep the tournament when the tickets get sold. I would not want to hear fans disappointed down the road because the athletic department did not get in a strong enough bid to host a football playoff game.

[jackmd]

Re: Playoffs 2016: Nova

I think its going to be one hell of a great game and I'm not going to miss it.

I just ordered 2 more club seats after recruiting a friend and his wife to attend. That's 9 total for me. Certainly a hefty investment for one game.

I'm shifting some of the money I had reserved for a donation to the Jackrabbit Club and our family academic scholarship towards these tickets. Hoping its a wise investment.

[scbison]

Re: Playoffs 2016: Nova

I believe ticket prices have to be set at the lowest price for regular season games. So you can't discount them just to fill the stadium.

[jackrabbit1979]

Re: Playoffs 2016: Nova

Meh. I would venture to guess that our ticket prices for a playoff game are on par with other FCS schools.

Not really, actually.

I'm not quite sure what side to fall on in this discussion about ticket prices, but when I first heard the cost I raised my eye brows a bit as well. I'll obviously be there still, as I consider myself a bit of a die hard like most on this board I'd assume, but I'm guessing it did have an impact on other more fair-weather fans. Based on conversations I've had with folks in the past few weeks, I think that is true. Or maybe more accurate, it's a convenient excuse for some who aren't really interested in attending anyway due to some of the other issues highlighted (population/travel/commute, weather, lack of passionate FB following, etc.).

Here's a quick snapshot of information I was able to gather online in just a handful of minutes for the other host schools. As you can see, we are the highest and nearly twice as much as most host schools (besides NDSU).

SDSU: $37 - $47, if purchased in advance. $42 - $52 at the gate
NDSU: $30 - $40 (standing room for $20/adult, $10/youth)
Eastern Wash: $20 - $32 (group of 10 or more = $15 each)
UND: $22.50 (youth tickets are $9)
Sam Houston: $18 - $30
James Madison: $15 - $25
Jacksonville St: $15 for GA, $75 for Club Level (only two options, not sure what “Club” includes at JSU)
The Citadel: $15 - $30

It is a cost prohibitive process to host playoff games no doubt. Did our situation not knowing if we were going to be seeded impact our bid, thus impacting the ticket prices? Do we lose out on the ability to host the game all together if prices drop by $10/ticket or $20/ticket? Do our regular season ticket costs impact this playoff price based on the information provided in this thread about NCAA rules (I can't recall what regular season per game tickets cost)?

Our Athletic department is full of smart folks, so I’m guessing all of these scenarios were considered before ticket prices were set and decisions were made to ensure we were able to host a game - which is most important as our team deserves it. It’s just interesting to see our costs compared to our peers across the country who are also hosting games.

[da_coach]

Re: Playoffs 2016: Nova

http://www.argusleader.com/story/spo...7bd94dfca873d1

Of note... things that concern me (copied from article):
It appears to be an all-hands-on-deck approach for the Wildcat ‘D’ – they have five players with at least three sacks and 12 players with at least 30 tackles – but end Tanoh Kpassagnon is the catalyst.

Teams with a great team defense... much harder than a team with a special player or two.

also, don't like that their QB is dangerous in the option. (see Cal Poly... obviously it's not a Wingbone triple option team).

This is going to be a tough test for the Jackrabbits.

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

Re: Playoffs 2016: Nova

I would kick Guy 4 out of your group.

You can choose your friends... can't choose your family...

[jakejc795]

Re: Playoffs 2016: Nova

I would kick Guy 4 out of your group.

Haha, I seriously wonder how much luck people will have getting into Cubby's on Sat. I was impressed that one Philly reporter mentioned "beautiful downtown Brookings" in his article.

As to SF's priority points question, it does not appear playoff ticket purchases are included based on this site; I suppose doing so could cause complications for fans who purchase Summit Tourney tickets too.

[jacksfaninne]

Re: Playoffs 2016: Nova

IMO, if tickets were $30 it would have been 4 yes's without much thought, we would have figured out the logistics to make it work. $45 gave pause, and it was all downhill from there.

Hard to imagine not dropping at least $30 in food and beverages spending more than 3 hours watching the game at Cubby's. I suppose you'll be warmer, but for another $15, you could be at the game.

[OldHare]

Re: Playoffs 2016: Nova

For those who might want to risk seating location, you may buy a least expensive ticket and find your way to better seating when inside. It would save you a few dollars for that hot cocoa.

[UWMandSDSU]

Re: Playoffs 2016: Nova

As much as I complain, price isn't the deciding factor for me. But it is a contributing factor.

Here's roughly how the group text went in our small group of season ticket holders:

Guy 1 - Hey guys, should we order tickets for playoffs?
Guy 2 - YESSSSS
Guy 3 - How much are they?
Guy 1 - $45, I think.
Guy 3 - Ouch.
Guy 2 - Serious?
Guy 1 - I guess we can wait to see what the weather is doing...
Guy 3 - There will be plenty of tickets available if we want to walk up.
Guy 2 - Cubby's?
Guy 1 - Let's talk next week.
Guy 4 - Cubby's!!!!!!

IMO, if tickets were $30 it would have been 4 yes's without much thought, we would have figured out the logistics to make it work. $45 gave pause, and it was all downhill from there.

On an unrelated note, does the purchase of playoff tickets count in any way toward priority points? It absolutely should.

I would kick Guy 4 out of your group.

[jakejc795]

Re: Playoffs 2016: Nova

On an unrelated note, does the purchase of playoff tickets count in any way toward priority points? It absolutely should.

That's an interesting question, and I concur. I also think they could possibly encourage attendance by having a point bonus if a person attends every game (assuming the data from the ticket scanners could be correlated to actual tickets).