Cal Poly

[Carolina010]

Re: Cal Poly

It is possible to causally drink for 9 hours and not be over the legal limit. Of all those people that get up and come back with 2 beers you don't know that they are both for them. A lot of people get multiple so only one person gets up. And for tailgating, you are all assuming that the problem is underage drinking. Is it not possible for people that are over 21 to dumb things when drinking. Why is everyone assuming that if you get all of the underage kids out of tailgating that will solve the problem. I have been at tailgating for both games now and have seen way more students standing around with wristbands than without. I would bet that at hobo day, the incident that caused all of this, 75% to 80% of the people involved we of legal drinking age. Also i did notice the UPD "hunting" for under-ages because a girl got one right in front of the tent i was standing in. It wouldn't have seemed that way but she already had a wristband on and the checked her ID anyway.

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

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Maybe they are being responsible and have a DD. You have no idea how they are getting home, you are just basing it off the fact that they had a few beers at the game.

While you are correct, he didn't actually say any were driving. He said they shouldn't be driving.

Does anyone actually want to disagree with the following statement: people who are over the legal limit should not be driving?

Driving under the influence of alcohol often has life changing (or life ending) consequences for innocent victims.

[Nidaros]

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Maybe they are being responsible and have a DD. You have no idea how they are getting home, you are just basing it off the fact that they had a few beers at the game.

A few? How many? The legal limit is .08 per cent. Good for those who have a DD.

[mango4]

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It says I need to spread my reputation points, so I can only agree with what you have said. The last comment about a checkpoint is music to my ears, since I only have my personal safety to worry about. I certainly can not dictate how someone lives their life, as I was reminded by Thumper 76. I just think that if SDSU adds any more beer to their concession stands they are asking for trouble. With 5 hours of tailgating and 4 hours of beer consumption during the game, none of these people should never get behind the wheel to drive home.

Maybe they are being responsible and have a DD. You have no idea how they are getting home, you are just basing it off the fact that they had a few beers at the game.

[Nidaros]

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This whole discussion has been the absolute worst. Beer will be sold and money will be made just like at the majority of all other big time events. If someone is worried about their safety I would advise them to stay away from any big time concerts or professional sporting events. Stick to high school/pee-wee/little league.

I feel embarrassed to have even responded to this thread.

Thank you

[smoothjack]

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It says I need to spread my reputation points, so I can only agree with what you have said. The last comment about a checkpoint is music to my ears, since I only have my personal safety to worry about. I certainly can not dictate how someone lives their life, as I was reminded by Thumper 76. I just think that if SDSU adds any more beer to their concession stands they are asking for trouble. With 5 hours of tailgating and 4 hours of beer consumption during the game, none of these people should never get behind the wheel to drive home.

This whole discussion has been the absolute worst. Beer will be sold and money will be made just like at the majority of all other big time events. If someone is worried about their safety I would advise them to stay away from any big time concerts or professional sporting events. Stick to high school/pee-wee/little league.

I feel embarrassed to have even responded to this thread.

[jacksfaninne]

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Yet you seem bound and determined to make sure there's no way students even get the opportunity to make that decision. Students are as you said fully aware that it's illegal and aware of the consequences, but they do it to have a good time, just like you did. If they are able to do this without causing a public nuisance, why should we take that away from them? You did it, so why can't they?

No one's taking away their opportunity to make that decision. Heck, I'd argue it's easier for them to make that decision now than it was back in the day -- when there was no tailgating, no designated areas where alcohol consumption was allowed. Students have plenty of opportunity to decide to sneak booze into their dorm room, find an off-campus party, or hang out at an on-campus tailgate and be smart about concealing their beverage and managing their drunkenness.

[TK22867]

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Yet you seem bound and determined to make sure there's no way students even get the opportunity to make that decision. Students are as you said fully aware that it's illegal and aware of the consequences, but they do it to have a good time, just like you did. If they are able to do this without causing a public nuisance, why should we take that away from them? You did it, so why can't they?

My situation was different. There was no tailgating at all when I was in school. My instances were at house parties or in my dorm, not directly under the noses of UPD and the administration at an on-campus, SDSU sanctioned event.

Students are as you said fully aware that it's illegal and aware of the consequences

If they are able to do this without causing a public nuisance, why should we take that away from them?

So you declare students are aware of the consequences...........you just don't want them enforced.

[OldHare]

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Yet you seem bound and determined to make sure there's no way students even get the opportunity to make that decision. Students are as you said fully aware that it's illegal and aware of the consequences, but they do it to have a good time, just like you did. If they are able to do this without causing a public nuisance, why should we take that away from them? You did it, so why can't they?

I do not think there is a conspiracy to assume that anyone's life experience should be curtailed by not allowing underage consumption. I would wager that there is very few that have not had that experience. Some may have even had a puking good time. If that is the only way they want to fly, I think that is their decision. I would not want to suggest any detour from that end. However, the public nuisance you refer is exactly why there is the current hullabaloo. Someone created a near riot situation and now the students are realizing the control that can be used to avoid underage drunken behavior that is not acceptable. If that is not clear enough to understand the current rules that are being enforced, then I would be at a loss to get the message more clear. The students have defecated in the proverbial nest which brings us to the new tailgating rules.

[Nidaros]

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UPD is going to enforce the law. Don't be shocked when police officers act like police officers. A lack of wristband seems like more than enough probable cause to ask for an ID to me.

IMO, police officers should not be the ones handling security. Not because a security company would look the other way, but because their JOBS dictate a certain type of behavior. Don't be surprised when people do their jobs.

I drink at tailgate, often too much. I drank in college too, got an underage to prove it. I don't consider myself a prude. However, the cavalier attitude of many towards underage drinking and alcohol in general is puzzling.

Personally, I think it would be hilarious if the Highway Patrol setup a checkpoint between Brookings and Volga after a game.

It says I need to spread my reputation points, so I can only agree with what you have said. The last comment about a checkpoint is music to my ears, since I only have my personal safety to worry about. I certainly can not dictate how someone lives their life, as I was reminded by Thumper 76. I just think that if SDSU adds any more beer to their concession stands they are asking for trouble. With 5 hours of tailgating and 4 hours of beer consumption during the game, none of these people should never get behind the wheel to drive home.

[CappinHard]

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As thumper suggested, I believe that many posters are too far removed from the situation to be rational about it. I would venture to guess that the opinion that we should completely eradicate all underage drinking at tailgating would not be a very popular one if you talked to all of the people that tailgate. I would imagine they would say that as long as things are under control, they don't mind underage college kids drinking at all, because they know that it's going to happen regardless.

[CappinHard]

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For the record, I consumed illegally in college. Had a great time.

Yet you seem bound and determined to make sure there's no way students even get the opportunity to make that decision. Students are as you said fully aware that it's illegal and aware of the consequences, but they do it to have a good time, just like you did. If they are able to do this without causing a public nuisance, why should we take that away from them? You did it, so why can't they?

[slosho]

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Enjoy Oktoberfest and I assumed you were in club level in seating, my apologies.

No worries. I might be (although it would be a hard sell to the wife) but my group has others that would not be able to swing it. For us the games are as much about fellowship as football.

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[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

Re: Cal Poly

UPD is going to enforce the law. Don't be shocked when police officers act like police officers. A lack of wristband seems like more than enough probable cause to ask for an ID to me.

IMO, police officers should not be the ones handling security. Not because a security company would look the other way, but because their JOBS dictate a certain type of behavior. Don't be surprised when people do their jobs.

I drink at tailgate, often too much. I drank in college too, got an underage to prove it. I don't consider myself a prude. However, the cavalier attitude of many towards underage drinking and alcohol in general is puzzling.

Personally, I think it would be hilarious if the Highway Patrol setup a checkpoint between Brookings and Volga after a game.

[JacksFTW]

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Hopefully it doesn't get to Rutgers level. They just shut down their student tailgate after their AD shotgunned a beer on stage.

http://deadspin.com/rutgers-student-...bee-1786876482