2011 Schedule

[rabidrabbit]

Re: 2011 Schedule

The Cereal Bowl, which the SUU game will be, has a history of drawing 12K plus to watch the Jacks play. These have usually been wins for SDSU (last year exception). Ga Southern, the very first ever MVFC game (YSU), both blow-out wins over pre-season receiving votes/ ranked teams.

Let's enjoy another trademark SDSU D-I year, and see some tough MVFC games also. Jacks do well, and we could even see SDSU as a seeded team. Playing home games in Dec. has to be high in the AD's wish list, because NOBODY would want to be here in Brookings (besides possibly the Big Sky teams/ NDSU).

The schedule is what it is, and if Jacks run well thru the schedule, they will be selected.

[Southeast]

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I don't know if SUU is a good choice or not. That price tag seems very high.

I do know, however, that I would have to be pretty desperate for entertainment to drive to Brookings (2.5 hrs) to watch the Jacks throttle some D2 team in a meaninless game. A likely blowout in what is essentially an exhibition game is not appealing to a lot of people. Bring in a decent team and challenge yourself a little if you can.

[JACKGUYII]

Re: 2011 Schedule

If a person really wanted to split hairs (hares?) any game is a potential loss, no matter what you pay.

I prefer to look at this as an opportunity for this team to come out and beat these good teams and gain a lot of momentum for the conference season. As far as attendance goes, I think that there are many people out there that would love to go to a game where the opponent is of a higher quality.

Here is where you are wrong. The majority of our fan base especially the students have not chosen to show up for some high quality non-conference and conference games. While most on here understand who some of these opponents are most don't know Georgia Southern from Lindenwood. This has proven out in every sport. In football especially it's more about when the game is played than who. SUU never drew well at the end of the year. I think if we played Minnesota Duluth or SUU the attendence would be good for an opening game. Difference is one game you pay maybe $50k and the other $185K and one game allows you to work on some things and the other could put in a hole you never dig out of. I hate to see us give up so much of the revenue too SUU that we pick up from the FBS opponent Illinois.

[mitchellrabbit]

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I agree on the attendance. I lived in SD during the 2007 season and had season tickets. I moved to Minnesota in 2008 and have not had season tickets since. I have come back for a game or two each of the last 3 seasons. With the schedule we have my wife and I are planning to purchase season tickets for this season. If we had scheduled a D2 school instead of SUU, I doubt we would get season tickets. We can complain the schedule strength hurts our play-off chances, but if we would have won the games against both ISUs last season like we were supposed to, we would have made the play-offs.

im also glad we didnt schedule a d2 team or some other cupcake. i want to go watch a competive game, not a 50-0 blowout. i would still get season tickets no matter who was scheduled but will enjoy an southern utah game more

[1bunnies]

Re: 2011 Schedule

Lindenwood's basketball coach is Brad Soderberg, former SDSu coach. In their final NAIA season they have a 24-3 record with 3 regular season games to go. Brad left SDSU to become an assistant at Wisconsin and then was the head coach at St. Louis for a few seasons.

[NoVaJack]

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Well, if you look at the schedule of the top programs, the ones who made the playoffs last year... that's not how it works... Eastern Washington played a D2 team. Delaware played West Chester. North Dakota State played Morgan State and USD. Georgia Southern played Savannah State. Villanova played Towson.

You can pretty much run through the FCS playoff field and you'll find that just about every team played some weaker or lower division opponent in an out-of-conference game. So while it's nice to say we should play these kinds of games... so should everybody else. But they don't. So we're at a disadvantage in the end.

If we'd have beaten North Dakota State in a winnable game in Fargo they wouldn't have made the playoffs and if we'd have taken care of conference business at home a little bit better we'd have been in the playoffs.

[Nidaros]

Re: 2011 Schedule

Longwood (VA) is a D-I independent. Jacks played them some, but the Lancers never signed up for the scheduling alliance or the Great West.

Thanks

[rabidrabbit]

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Yes I got this after doing a google and I fixed my original post. Seems like there was a wood in the scheduling alliance of the Great west, Longwood? Maybe, and I thought that was were I got messed up.

Longwood (VA) is a D-I independent. Jacks played them some, but the Lancers never signed up for the scheduling alliance or the Great West.

[Nidaros]

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Lindenwood is an NAIA program that either lost to or beat USF in the title game a few years ago. They are not DI or FCS.

Yes I got this after doing a google and I fixed my original post before I read yours and HAMBONE'S correcting post. Thank you to both of you. Seems like there was a wood in the scheduling alliance of the Great west, Longwood? Maybe, and I thought that was USD's opponent and that's were I got messed up.

[Nidaros]

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Lindenwood is actually NAIA recalssing to DII. They start MIAA conference schedule in 2012 I believe.....

Hey I fixed it before you posted this. SO there you are.

[valleyrabbit]

Re: 2011 Schedule

If a person really wanted to split hairs (hares?) any game is a potential loss, no matter what you pay.

I prefer to look at this as an opportunity for this team to come out and beat these good teams and gain a lot of momentum for the conference season. As far as attendance goes, I think that there are many people out there that would love to go to a game where the opponent is of a higher quality.

I agree on the attendance. I lived in SD during the 2007 season and had season tickets. I moved to Minnesota in 2008 and have not had season tickets since. I have come back for a game or two each of the last 3 seasons. With the schedule we have my wife and I are planning to purchase season tickets for this season. If we had scheduled a D2 school instead of SUU, I doubt we would get season tickets. We can complain the schedule strength hurts our play-off chances, but if we would have won the games against both ISUs last season like we were supposed to, we would have made the play-offs.

[SoDakJack]

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$185k for a potential loss. Ugh. Fork out the extra $15k for a probable win. It will help in the long run. More confidence = likelihood of winning more games = more people at home games = cancelling out the $15k difference.

If a person really wanted to split hairs (hares?) any game is a potential loss, no matter what you pay.

I prefer to look at this as an opportunity for this team to come out and beat these good teams and gain a lot of momentum for the conference season. As far as attendance goes, I think that there are many people out there that would love to go to a game where the opponent is of a higher quality.

[SpeedRabbit]

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I'd say the schedule makers dropped the ball...again. When you are in a 9 team conference you should not have so much trouble filling out a schedule. This is becoming more of a trend rather than a one or two time deal.

$185k for a potential loss. Ugh. Fork out the extra $15k for a probable win. It will help in the long run. More confidence = likelihood of winning more games = more people at home games = cancelling out the $15k difference.

USD has the defending national champions coming to Vermillion. Are they doing a 3 for 1 to get that or what? If not, their schedulemakers are making ours look moronic.

If were were a 9-1 team last yr and returned a lot of key people I could understand the scheduling more. Heck- We were 5-6, lose a quality group of seniors and are rebuilding in my opinion.

[jackmd]

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Lindenwood is D1 FCS. Missouri S &T is hardly NWMU at Maryville. If they would schedule NWMU or Missouri Western, they would have a good challenge. But I suppose these two have schedules filled and are real choosing about playing up a classification. It does not help their D2 playoff chances.

Lindenwood is an NAIA program that either lost to or beat USF in the title game a few years ago. They are not DI or FCS.

[Hambone]

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Lindenwood is D1 FCS. Missouri S &T is hardly NWMU at Maryville. If they would schedule NWMU or Missouri Western, they would have a good challenge. But I suppose these two have schedules filled and are real choosing about playing up a classification. It does not help their D2 playoff chances.

Lindenwood is actually NAIA recalssing to DII. They start MIAA conference schedule in 2012 I believe.....