Minor Meltdown in the South

[Jack4Life]

Re: Minor Meltdown in the South

Let's see a degree from U. and only posts late. Waiter or bartender?

Or, their famous quote at their job, "Do you want to supersize that?"

[SturgisJeff]

Re: Minor Meltdown in the South

How about this rant fron Coyote Fan from their board.*

copied from coyote fan board without any permission whatsoever

The Jacks are playing for the MO Valley championship in what their second year in the conference.

The Jacks were way ahead of where USD is now when the Jacks were in their second year. They had momentum and really took off in their third year. USD is going sideways if not backwards right now. A big difference in the directions of the programs not only in transition year 2 but look at the Jacks now. As much as it pains me to say it they are eating up D1 FCS football right now.

USD is going to have big problems recruiting against SDSU as things stand now and how things are going now. UND just came off a big win over Cal Poly so the USF game is already being put on the back burner.

Administration it's time to do a serious evaluation of where this program is. This is the third straight year of frustration and underachivement. This is the third straight year of under coaching. Don't wait for 2 or 3 years. Now is the time to get the wrongs right. Since USD still has 3 years until post season eligibilty why not make the change this off season instead of waiting any longer. Just look at the recent past. USD is a horrible road team, HORRIBLE.

This is my question to the masses that don't agree that Ed should be gone. What is it about his coaching style and what is it about this program that makes you think this thing will get turned around? I want facts not, "we will get their". Funny that is exactly what Ed says, problem is there is no plan in place to get there. Ed even stated after the UNC game that it was a must win. They couldn't even win a must win game against a bad program with 2 weeks to prepare and get energized.

Ed does good when he can really stack the talent in his favor playing some of the lesser D2 schools. When he has to face talent at or above what USD has he almost never wins those types of games unless it's at home. He says the Coyotes should play to win but the Coyotes almost always play not to lose in the critical moments of games. Look at UC Davis today. They got hammered out at Southern Utah.

I really do believe that USD can get the football program rolling I just don't think it is with things as they are now. The second year absolutely has to be better than year one. USD has really played bad football in the UNI, UND and UNC game and average in the MSU and Cal Davis game. They played well in the SE LA game. Way too many mediocre to bad performances that should be better.

This may sound like a broken record but it's something that must continue to be said. USD took a serious step backwards in their last year of D2. the writing was already on the wall going into the transition that is why the move to D1 can only be used as an excuse for so long.

I really don't know what else I can say. As a fan you have got to have made an opinion on Ed one way or another by now. Either you continue to hold out hope that things will change. That USD will become a consistant program that shows up to play week in and week out. You have to continue to believe that USD can be a playoff caliber team in 2 to 3 years. Despite never really seeing a concrete reason to believe things will change you are still holding out hope.

Either that or you have had just about enough by now. The same things continually haunt this team. The team plays so inconsistantly from one week to the next. The team continually strumbles in big game situations and the coaching continues to coach timid in big play/game situations.

This board is starting to show some wear and tear and honestly I cannot stand to hear the red coolaid people continue to pretend that nothing is wrong and that things will somehow majically change on their own. Some posters have said they will no longer show up to the S Utah game next week. I am going to be there but I cannot blame someone for not showing up. The ultimate statement to USD brass is to not show up if you are not happy with the product. There are alot of fans that are very persuadable one way or another. Probably about 50%. If those fans get discouraged the attendance could be back down in the 4,000 range.

Back to the program comparisons. I hate comparing USD to the Jacks but when the programs are at such opposite ends of the spectrum it becomes a topic of discussion. For those that really want to see the rivalry resume have got to be sick to their stomachs right now. Administration cannot get SDSU off their minds. If that is the case they shouldn't be able to get the alarming disparities between the programs out of their minds either. SDSU has and is proving that new teams to FCS can compete and can do it fairly quickly. They haven't just completed but have completely succeeded based upon this season.

As a hardcore Coyote Fan I just cannot accept what is going on right now. I just can't and I have to let it be known. We deserve so much better. It's really quite embarrassing to have to try to stand up for the Yotes football program only to have these constant letdowns.

Once again for those standing up for Ed as to why he should continue to coach this program I would like concrete reasons and facts. Not the same old, same old excuses. Link to Post - Back to Top Logged

[Jack4Life]

Re: Minor Meltdown in the South

[QUOTE=SturgisJeff;132418]How about this rant fron Coyote Fan from their board.*

copied from coyote fan board without any permission whatsoever

Wow, this poster is really pissed. I cannot comment on the situation in Udot land, cause I am not invlolved in it like the poster is. The one point he made that I appreciate is how the administration cannot get SDSU off its mind. I think they have to handle the transition their own way and not be looking at SDSU and comparing what should or should not be. Different school, different methods...or maybe, they just weren't prepared to transition to DI when they did.

[JimmyJack]

Re: Minor Meltdown in the South

But I thought D2 wasn't all that different from FCS? We heard that over and over and over again from Coyote_Fan a couple of years ago. The top levels of D2, which allegedly included the Coyotes, were right there with the top half of FCS.

Well what do you know... as soon as they start playing a fully D1 schedule, their program goes off a cliff. One poster suggested they'll probably lose to SUU and then the first two or three next year for 8 or 9 consecutive losses. Ouch.

I don't take a lot of pleasure in their struggles, though. There are a lot of SD kids on that team.

Can't say I think much of Meierkort after he threw his scholarship kicker under the bus in the media a few weeks back (who recruited the kid, Ed?). Meierkort reminds me of Jim Wacker from his Minnesota days. Blab, blab, blab. Talk, talk, talk. Lose, lose, lose.

[Prairiehaas]

Re: Minor Meltdown in the South

U of Spoiled Dependents insists on instant gratification. Seems to perceive a right to success as opposed to a right to WORK for success. Their football team has some talent and a decent coaching staff. No fun though going thru D1 transition hell. Especially with an historically mediocre program.

[zooropa]

Re: Minor Meltdown in the South

Especially with an historically mediocre program.

SDSU's transition success is an anomaly.

USD needs to understand that.

SDSU had a coach at the beginning of transition who was ideally suited to recruit D-1 talent---it's not anything anybody knew when he was hired. It's not anything anybody knew at the beginning of transition.

It's an anomaly, and is not something USD should expect to duplicate.

[Nidaros]

Re: Minor Meltdown in the South

I read some posts over there were they want to dump Mierekort and hire DeBoer from USF. I suspect DeBoer would take the job, but could he do any better. I think he too would be dealing with a learning curve as well. NAIA and FCS are not equal. DeBoer can coach that is for certain, so who knows. Going this route USD would not have to up the salary of their head coach, but in fairness to Ed, I don't see Jim Abbott making any change until the end of the transition period and then even then a change seems to be in doubt.

Making changes purely on football games outcome is risky at the FCS levels and below. USD does not have a defense coordinator and Ed is wearing two hats, so maybe that might be a problem.

[NoVaJack]

Re: Minor Meltdown in the South

I read some posts over there were they want to dump Mierekort and hire DeBoer from USF. I suspect DeBoer would take the job, but could he do any better. I think he too would be dealing with a learning curve as well. NAIA and FCS are not equal. DeBoer can coach that is for certain, so who knows. Going this route USD would not have to up the salary of their head coach, but in fairness to Ed, I don't see Jim Abbott making any change until the end of the transition period and then even then a change seems to be in doubt.

Making changes purely on football games outcome is risky at the FCS levels and below. USD does not have a defense coordinator and Ed is wearing two hats, so maybe that might be a problem.

I have no idea how good Coach DeBoer is but be careful what you wish for. Not all coaches can move up a level and be successful. Some coaches' personalities and styles are perfect for one level but are anathema to the next. Exhibit #1. Steve "Ballcoach" Spurrier. Pretty good at D-1, absolutely horrible in the NFL.

[SD-STATE]

Re: Minor Meltdown in the South

But I thought D2 wasn't all that different from FCS? We heard that over and over and over again from Coyote_Fan a couple of years ago. The top levels of D2, which allegedly included the Coyotes, were right there with the top half of FCS.

Well what do you know... as soon as they start playing a fully D1 schedule, their program goes off a cliff. One poster suggested they'll probably lose to SUU and then the first two or three next year for 8 or 9 consecutive losses. Ouch.

I don't take a lot of pleasure in their struggles, though. There are a lot of SD kids on that team.

Can't say I think much of Meierkort after he threw his scholarship kicker under the bus in the media a few weeks back (who recruited the kid, Ed?). Meierkort reminds me of Jim Wacker from his Minnesota days. Blab, blab, blab. Talk, talk, talk. Lose, lose, lose.

I was thinking the same thing earlier this season, when Ed was talking about resuming the rivalry with SDSU. He seems to always put his foot in his mouth. A guy who talks out of both sides of his mouth, if that makes sense. Wacker was historic for talking a big game and then getting crushed by bad teams having even worse years.

[BitsTD]

Re: Minor Meltdown in the South

anathema

Is this even a word?

[zooropa]

Re: Minor Meltdown in the South

Is this even a word?

It's Greek.

[Prairiehaas]

Re: Minor Meltdown in the South

I have no idea how good Coach DeBoer is but be careful what you wish for. Not all coaches can move up a level and be successful. Some coaches' personalities and styles are perfect for one level but are anathema to the next. Exhibit #1. Steve "Ballcoach" Spurrier. Pretty good at D-1, absolutely horrible in the NFL.

Ed Meierkort?

[JackJD]

Re: Minor Meltdown in the South

Is this even a word?

As you can tell from NoVaJack's sentence, it means "a detested person" or a "curse".

[Coyote_Fan]

Re: Minor Meltdown in the South

I have no idea how good Coach DeBoer is but be careful what you wish for. Not all coaches can move up a level and be successful. Some coaches' personalities and styles are perfect for one level but are anathema to the next. Exhibit #1. Steve "Ballcoach" Spurrier. Pretty good at D-1, absolutely horrible in the NFL.

That statement kind of describes Meierkort to a T as far as being able to coach a level up. When USD is competing against equal or better talent they almost never compete. One thing I will say is that the transition is used as an excuse to keep Ed but the programs downfall started happening before the transition began. USD did play well at home against tough D2 competition but they have never played well on the road against good competion. That is a problem to me.

[Jacked_Up]

Re: Minor Meltdown in the South

Yes, the Great West Conference title should count. The Jacks are going for their second conference championship in three years. If and when the Coyotes win a Great West Conference title (which is highly unlikely for the next couple of seasons, at least) it will count, and the Coyotes will be entitled to take pride in it.