The Official USD to D-I Smack Thread

[1stRowFANatic]

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I guess I looked at it as sales speech. 90% (or more) is fluff that makes the target (people of USD & Vermillion) feel good about what he is selling. I also remember hearing about how extra research dollars turns into new jobs for SDSU and South Dakota when we began the transition, however, I do not recall anyone stating the connection in the same manner as Nielsen. That is where I would put the difference.

But then, does it really matter? Its USD.

[SiouxFallsJack]

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About the only reason they might google it is if they are coming to watch a game and need a map how to get there and look for a motel room.

I didn't know Vermillion had motel rooms, must have made improvements since my last visit.

[Jack4Life]

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Apparenltly, according to that article, the main benefit of going DI for udot is that people will know where Vermillion, SD is. That is if they give a rats ass and feel like googling it.

About the only reason they might google it is if they are coming to watch a game and need a map how to get there and look for a motel room.

[JimmyJack]

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Apparenltly, according to that article, the main benefit of going DI for udot is that people will know where Vermillion, SD is. That is if they give a rats ass and feel like googling it.

I was born in Vermillion. I have spent my entire life trying to live that down. As a honest-to-goodness Vermillion native, someone who took his first breath there, I can say this: It's a dump.

While I'm on the subject: That article is ridiculous. If anyone in Vermillion imagines that D1 athletics is going to bring economic development the way Nielsen suggests (people will see USD play, they'll Google Vermillion and magically decide to do business there) they're dreaming. Here's what it does. Yes, it raises the profile of your university. But that's only the beginning of your work. You have to create the infrastructure to turn your campus into an economic development engine for the region. The higher profile will help bring research dollars into that process, but it takes the right people and the right kinds of research to create opportunity. The notion that you just throw your team out there and hope somebody decides to locate a business in your town is just about the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

If their strategy is just to lose lots of games to major conference schools so somebody might, someday notice Vermillion exists and drop some cash there, it's going to be a long wait. Sounds like typical USD strategy, though. In other words: No strategy.

[CatchEmAll]

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Apparenltly, according to that article, the main benefit of going DI for udot is that people will know where Vermillion, SD is. That is if they give a rats ass and feel like googling it.

[JackJD]

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Not smack, just noting the following interview/story from the Vermillion Plain Talk Newspaper of 3/6/08 re: USD AD Nielsen commenting on the move to D1.

"Joel Nielsen knows there are some in the Vermillion community who questioned The University of South Dakota's decision last year to move from NCAA Division II to Division I-AA for football and Division I for all other sports.
Nielsen, the university's athletic director, hopes local citizens see the change as more than just a progressive move for the USD...."

http://www.plaintalk.net/stories/030...80306041.shtml

Okay, back to smack.

[boxerboy]

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You would have better luck telling me a Norwegian joke. LOL

Now that's funny

[Jack4Life]

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I see UND beat Augie today. If UND wins the NCC, will that affect Udot's chances?

[jackmd]

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Obviously I follow the men and women very closely. Trust me the Coyote Men are done and have very little chance to advance past the first round of the regional because even if they make it they will play Northern or Winona and get smoked.

The USD Women are for real. I realise that the NCC is only a 7 team conference but ya have to be good to go 12-0 through it. To sweep UND is always a good feat. There is one big similarity and one big differerence between the two teams. They both returned all their players from the previous season. The difference is that the USD Women all got to be better basketball players in the off season. The USD Men rested on their laurels and didn't get better at all. In actuality the USD Mens have been playing like they want their season to end. No fire. The USD Men are used to playing lazy and can't put together more than 1 good game in a row. They can barely put together more than one good half in a row. The USD Women play their tails off almost all the time. The reason for their success is a combination of experience and just having a huge heart and competitive drive. The USD Women are much better this year.

The USD Women should be the host for the regional regardless of how they do this weekend in the conference tourney. Whoever the #8 seed is will not have a very good chance. Right now that is Augie and USD beat them by 40 just a week ago. The 4-5 vs #1 matchup will be alot tougher as more than likely that will be the worst seeded team between UND, Concordia St. Paul and Fort Lewis. They are all very good teams with no more than 3 losses each. It will be a tough road for whoever makes it out of the NC regional but USD has got to be the favorite right now and on a 24 game winning streak.

For the women, looks like Concordia is decent again, no idea about RMAC teams but they were never a factor in the past. UND will be tough to beat again but in Vermillion the yotes have a great chance. I'll be pulling for the yotes, they've earned my respect (thats hard to say).

For the men, looks like Northern and Winona are in, Ft. Lewis is in, Augie, MSUM, and UNO are in. No idea who else from the RMAC might get in. I don't think they'll take 5 NCC teams. If there was/is an upset in the RMAC tourney USD might be out. If they get in it will be as a 7 or 8 seed out in Winona. I don't have any respect for the USD men. I'll be pulling for Matt and MSUM.

[Coyote_Fan]

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Obviously I follow the men and women very closely. Trust me the Coyote Men are done and have very little chance to advance past the first round of the regional because even if they make it they will play Northern or Winona and get smoked.

The USD Women are for real. I realise that the NCC is only a 7 team conference but ya have to be good to go 12-0 through it. To sweep UND is always a good feat. There is one big similarity and one big differerence between the two teams. They both returned all their players from the previous season. The difference is that the USD Women all got to be better basketball players in the off season. The USD Men rested on their laurels and didn't get better at all. In actuality the USD Mens have been playing like they want their season to end. No fire. The USD Men are used to playing lazy and can't put together more than 1 good game in a row. They can barely put together more than one good half in a row. The USD Women play their tails off almost all the time. The reason for their success is a combination of experience and just having a huge heart and competitive drive. The USD Women are much better this year.

The USD Women should be the host for the regional regardless of how they do this weekend in the conference tourney. Whoever the #8 seed is will not have a very good chance. Right now that is Augie and USD beat them by 40 just a week ago. The 4-5 vs #1 matchup will be alot tougher as more than likely that will be the worst seeded team between UND, Concordia St. Paul and Fort Lewis. They are all very good teams with no more than 3 losses each. It will be a tough road for whoever makes it out of the NC regional but USD has got to be the favorite right now and on a 24 game winning streak.

[Nidaros]

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I agree, most of the USD fans just come on and put the Jacks and their fans down. I have monitored Yote fans for over a year blasting fans of SDSU. I for one would just like to see some meaningful discussions much like I've seen fans from other universities engage in.

You would have better luck telling me a Norwegian joke. LOL

[boxerboy]

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I will even give some rep points for that post! That may be the most level-headed thing ever posted by a 'Yote fan on this board!

Keep it up CF!

SUPERBUNNY

I agree, most of the USD fans just come on and put the Jacks and their fans down. I have monitored Yote fans for over a year blasting fans of SDSU. I for one would just like to see some meaningful discussions much like I've seen fans from other universities engage in.

[BTownJack]

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I guess I'm still up in the air on their men's team.

I'm not...if they do make the D-II postseason they won't win one game. They have not won a meaningful road game yet this year. Nor have they shown the ability to win a close game, home or away.

[91jack]

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I don't know if I agree with Jacked_Up or not. I look at USD's men and don't know what to think.
They are 5-0 at neutral site games. Those are games at 3 tourney's or classics. I think they played a host team in the 6th game.
I think they are 3-4 at road games. That's not many road games or a good record at them.
I know the tourney is a neutral site but I think they will be playing better teams than they normally play. It's just like the football team, it's better to get a win then play real competition. That's a ton of home games, too.
I guess I'm still up in the air on their men's team.

[SUPERBUNNY]

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I doubt you're going to hear many Coyote Fans even commenting on the attendance numbers but if there was any doubt the UND game proved that inflation to some point is going on. It's not whether inflation is going on but by how much. I believe it's probably in the 20-30% range on average. Last night it had to be over 50% though. The stands were about two-thirds to three-forths empty.

I will even give some rep points for that post! That may be the most level-headed thing ever posted by a 'Yote fan on this board!

Keep it up CF!

SUPERBUNNY