The Brett Farve Experiment

[RowdyRabbit]

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Vikings were impressive today.

That being said that last touchdown was BUSH LEAGUE. Poor sportsmanship exhibited by the folks in purple.

Meh. If the (how 'bout them)Cowboys didn't like it, they should've stopped it.

Whether it's intramural, middle school, high school, college or the pro's, the offense is out there to keep the ball out of the other teams offense and get in the endzone.

Was is poor sportsmanship when the Jets got the first down to end the game last night, instead of kicking the field goal and giving the ball back to the Chargers? After all, a "good sport" would have taken the 3 points and let the Chargers have a chance.

[jacksfaninne]

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As Chris Carter said on Mike & Mike this a.m., if the Cowboys didn't like it, they should learn how to defend. Heck, they blitzed on the play. If they could have gotten to Favre, they would have tried to plant him. The Cowboys hadn't quit on the game, why should the Vikes?

[JACKGUYII]

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Vikings were impressive today.

That being said that last touchdown was BUSH LEAGUE. Poor sportsmanship exhibited by the folks in purple.

If something like that would have happened in a baseball game (ie, stealing bases or trying to bunt for hit when that team is up a ton) someone is getting dotted the next time the two teams play. Obviously that won't happen here, but you can bet the there are gonna be some pissed off Cowboys when they meet again.

Bush League the Cowboys wrote the book on that. In fact all you had to do is watch the blowout the week before against the Eagles to see they did not take their foot off the accelarator late in the game. Granted Childress has some history during his time with the Eagles that I suspect he was paying the Cowboys back for. Jerry Jones is literally trying to put teams like the Vikings out of business now that he has his palace and does not want to participate in revenue sharing.

[MontanaRabbit]

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Not many folks agree with me which is fine, everyone is entitled to their opinions. I just don't believe in running the score up on anyone....ever.

The game was over when that call was made. It wouldn't have bothered me one bit if they would have kicked the field goal or ran the ball on fourth down and scored a touchdown. The fact they called a play action pass to blatantly go for the endzone in a game that was already essentially over (there was zero chance the Cowboys were gonna come back).

I can't remember what game, but Stig called a play to get Paula (I believe) a touchdown when they had the game won already. He apologized after the game saying he shouldn't have done that. That was classy.

And for the record I am not a Vikings or Cowboys fan. And to a point I agree with Zooropa.....Jerry Jones is an ass.

[zooropa]

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It's so hard for me to be upset about somebody rubbing Jerry Jones' nose in it.

[zooropa]

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I keep waiting for Wade Phillips to grow a mustache and hire Mr. Moose, Bunny Rabbit and Mr. Green Jeans as assistants.

They could empty a gatorade cooler full of ping pong balls on him if they ever win a big game.

[trueblue]

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In fact all you had to do is watch the blowout the week before against the Eagles to see they did not take their foot off the accelarator late in the game. Granted Childress has some history during his time with the Eagles that I suspect he was paying the Cowboys back for.

I have heard this said by more than one person, but not heard any actual fact from the game when they said it. I watched the game, and I may not remember which week it was (playoff game or last regular season game) but recall the Cowboys punting the ball late in the game when they had a 4th and short & were in the range of the 30-35 yd line of the Eagles. Dallas' final td's in each game vs the Eagles came with over 5 minutes to play in the third quarter.
What would Childress and Viking fans be saying if Favre had gotten hurt on the play and was going to miss this weeks game? "In Tarvaris we trust"?? Vikings dominated the game, no doubt, but the final TD actually detracted some from that. It is interesting that Jared Allen said to Brian Kenny that he probably would be upset if he was on the other side.

[Evolution Prime]

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The 30-35 yard line is still a reasonable distance to punt it from and pin them back deep in their own territory.

This was the Vikings situation: 4th and 3 from about the 11 yard line with about 2 minutes left on the clock. You can either run it and get stuffed and turn the ball over on downs, run it and possibly get a first down, take a knee and turn it over on downs, or pass it. If you are going to pass it, you might as well go for something meaningful than just a 5 and out/in. If its incomplete, so what. 4th and 3 is a long distance to get a first down on a run where you know the Cowboys are going to be stacking the box. Logical choice was to try and pass for a first down. They just ended up getting a TD out of it where the TE had to lay out to catch it. If they got only a first down and then tried to get a TD, then yeah that I might consider it to be "running up the score." (Though I still contend, there is no such thing as running up the score in the playoffs of a professional leage game, especially against the Cowboys). I would be more upset at the fact that we couldn't stop them, not for the perception that they were running up the score.

[MontanaRabbit]

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The 30-35 yard line is still a reasonable distance to punt it from and pin them back deep in their own territory.

This was the Vikings situation: 4th and 3 from about the 11 yard line with about 2 minutes left on the clock. You can either run it and get stuffed and turn the ball over on downs, run it and possibly get a first down, take a knee and turn it over on downs, or pass it. If you are going to pass it, you might as well go for something meaningful than just a 5 and out/in. If its incomplete, so what. 4th and 3 is a long distance to get a first down on a run where you know the Cowboys are going to be stacking the box. Logical choice was to try and pass for a first down. They just ended up getting a TD out of it where the TE had to lay out to catch it. If they got only a first down and then tried to get a TD, then yeah that I might consider it to be "running up the score." (Though I still contend, there is no such thing as running up the score in the playoffs of a professional leage game, especially against the Cowboys). I would be more upset at the fact that we couldn't stop them, not for the perception that they were running up the score.

I guess I believe that play was designed to go to the endzone. I haven't watched a replay, but I don't think the catch was that tough and there wasn't anyone else running a route on that side of the field (that I recall). So if Farve has no other receiver to throw it to other than the one in the endzone.....

They could have just kicked a field goal as well.

And with a back as good as AP they could have picked up that first down on a run play even though the Cowboys were bringing the house to stop the run.

I am a baseball guy and if someone does something a little bush league in baseball they are getting one between the numbers. I like that!

We may just have to agree to disagree.

[trueblue]

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[QUOTE=Evolution Prime;142961]The 30-35 yard line is still a reasonable distance to punt it from and pin them back deep in their own territory.QUOTE]

Exactly what I am saying- if the Cowboys were truly trying to "run up the score" as some people are saying they did- wouldn't they have gone for it- as I recall it was 4th and 2 or 4th and 1 and not punted. You can't run up the score if you are giving the ball over to the other team.
Wouldn't most teams facing a 4th and 3 from the opponents 11 try to kick a field goal?

Again, to me, the score really doesn't matter- trying to find out why people are saying the Cowboys were "running" it up on the Eagles.

[Evolution Prime]

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I think most of the people that are accusing the Cowboys of running the score up on the Eagles are either Eagle fans or avid Cowboy haters. I'm a Cowboy hater, but I didn't think they ran up the score on the Eagles is they didn't score after 5 min left in the 4th quarter. But that doesn't mean that they weren't trying to score or wouldn't take an insurance TD or FG if it was presented to them. Them punting in that situation was probably the right call since it would have pinned them deep. If the Vikings kick the FG, I think that would have been called "running the score up," but to a lesser degree than their TD.

Though I did see someone bring up that the Cowboys did, at one time, call a time-out in a playoff game against the Packers with seconds remaining in the game and in hand just so their kicker could get the record 7th FG kicked.

[mitchellrabbit]

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i hate the vikings and would have lmao if favre would have got hurt on that last TD. i hope the saints kickes their butts by 4 tds or more.

[JimmyJack]

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"Bad" Favre emerges at a really bad time. Then the refs make a couple of shaky calls in OT and the Saints are in the Super Bowl. Peyton and the Colts will dismantle the Saints' woeful defense, 42-17.

[RowdyRabbit]

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"Bad" Favre emerges at a really bad time. Then the refs make a couple of shaky calls in OT and the Saints are in the Super Bowl. Peyton and the Colts will dismantle the Saints' woeful defense, 42-17.

Yeah....very bad decision by Favre to throw the ball when he did with 11 secs to go, but man, the vikes fumbled away so many other opportunities (end of first half) it's hard to blame just Favre.

The vikes NFC championship curse continues.....

[Evolution Prime]

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Refs sure didn't help in overtime.