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  • #31
    Re: Is Tim Tebow an NFL caliber QB?

    Originally posted by jacksfan29 View Post
    Yet he keeps winning and his teammates love him. Something most people who live in the upper Midwest and cheer for the Queens would die for. We shall see, I'd personally rather see a winner then someone who looks pretty and loses but that's just me.
    I actually think the Vikings players like Ponder. But I also believe he is a better passer than Tebow. My agrument with Tebow is he is getting too much of the credit for the Broncos win streak. He might be the starting QB when the Broncos started their win streak, but he is not the reason for the wins. I am not a Vikings 'fan' but I do like to see local teams do well (all except KC--for some reason I just have never liked to watch KC play). I guess you must have thought I was a Vikings 'fan' with the Queens comment.
    Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!--Bluto--

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    • #32
      Re: Is Tim Tebow an NFL caliber QB?

      I will credit him with not turning the ball over. And he helps them control the clock, so those are 2 positives that Orton did not provide.
      Originally posted by JackFan96
      Well, I don't get to sit in Mom's basement and watch sports all day

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      • #33
        Re: Is Tim Tebow an NFL caliber QB?

        Originally posted by bub94 View Post
        He completed like 10 passes. You must have watched a totally different game than me because his passes are horrible. There are more announcers than ESPN (and I am thankful the ESPN announcers don't have to kiss the players butt and say all of them are great).
        He was 10 of 15, with 202 yds, 2 td and 0 int. A QB rating of 149...you can't get much better...regardless of what his passes looked like, he played a pretty good game vs the Vikings, the stats don't lie.

        Sure he completes like 8 passes a game, but if 1 or 2 or 3 of the 5 are for scores, and the others are simply incomplete, vs picks, what's the difference? Not to mention rushing td's.

        The guy doesn't turn the ball over.
        "Life is short so make sure you spend as much time as possible arguing with strangers on the Internet." - Person

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        • #34
          Re: Is Tim Tebow an NFL caliber QB?

          Tebow does not turn the ball over (granted, he does not throw it much). Otherwise, I definitely give way more credit for the wins to the defense and their ridiculously easy schedule. Remember, Orton started off the 2009 season 5-0 for the Broncos and was the next big thing. That stretch included a win over the Patriots. Orton and his coach McDaniels were all the media could talk about. Where are they now???

          Memory lane from 2009:
          http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=291011007

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          • #35
            Re: Is Tim Tebow an NFL caliber QB?

            It should also be mentioned, (I don't think it has been yet) that Brandon Lloyd, the Bronco's top receiver was traded at the same time as Tebow's began his reign as starting QB. Tebow, currently does not have very good wide receivers to throw to, and when it comes to all the negative press he has received, (Rick Reilly and others) prior to the start of the current season, it just seemed like piling on. I do not recall any other backup QB in the NFL that so many pundits wanted to bury before he hardly played. He did have a couple starts in 2010 but the attitudes prior to this season seemed pretty negative about a guy who didn't even start until the sixth game or so. Tebow could back down on his proselytizing, but I'm not sure what giving praise to Jesus Christ, is in itself, so harmful either. Lastly, as a Bear fan I still say, "Go Bears" and sack Tebow a bunch.

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            • #36
              Re: Is Tim Tebow an NFL caliber QB?

              I'm with Tebow....they can all go to h***.......Ha

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              • #37
                Re: Is Tim Tebow an NFL caliber QB?

                Originally posted by RowdyRabbit View Post
                He was 10 of 15, with 202 yds, 2 td and 0 int. A QB rating of 149...you can't get much better...regardless of what his passes looked like, he played a pretty good game vs the Vikings, the stats don't lie.

                Sure he completes like 8 passes a game, but if 1 or 2 or 3 of the 5 are for scores, and the others are simply incomplete, vs picks, what's the difference? Not to mention rushing td's.

                The guy doesn't turn the ball over.
                Totally agree. Tebow reminds me of Billy Kilmer. Fighter, nothing pretty, but undisputed leader, scrappy, will mix it up. Though Billy's private life was a little more colorful. Remember Joe Kapp? Every pass looked like a wounded duck. Perfect QB for a team built around running game, defense, toughness. Not every winning QB in the NFL has to be a perfect-spiral pretty boy.

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                • #38
                  Re: Is Tim Tebow an NFL caliber QB?

                  Another one bites the dust.
                  "The most rewarding things you do in life, are often the ones that look like they cannot be done.” Arnold Palmer

                  Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things.

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                  • #39
                    Re: Is Tim Tebow an NFL caliber QB?

                    Originally posted by goon View Post
                    Another one bites the dust.
                    Yup.... He made Barber go out of bounce and then made Barber fumble the ball

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                    • #40
                      Re: Is Tim Tebow an NFL caliber QB?

                      Originally posted by joeboo22 View Post
                      Yup.... He made Barber go out of bounce and then made Barber fumble the ball
                      Its called the tebow effect.
                      "The most rewarding things you do in life, are often the ones that look like they cannot be done.” Arnold Palmer

                      Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things.

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                      • #41
                        Re: Is Tim Tebow an NFL caliber QB?

                        The Today show had a piece about Tebow's display of personal religion. I dont know if its a good thing or not. If it helps him on the field, I guess its okay. I think it gets kind of boring when you get snowed with blessings and and the impression that some how god is on his side. Wait until he has a bad year. He might be flipping to the Book of Job.

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                        • #42
                          Re: Is Tim Tebow an NFL caliber QB?

                          Originally posted by Nidaros View Post
                          The Today show had a piece about Tebow's display of personal religion. I dont know if its a good thing or not. If it helps him on the field, I guess its okay. I think it gets kind of boring when you get snowed with blessings and and the impression that some how god is on his side. Wait until he has a bad year. He might be flipping to the Book of Job.
                          My guess is he'll be the same losing, as he is winning. See his press conference comments from yesterday below, I can see why so many hate him. Of course it seems a lot of the hate comes from those who hate his religion. Personally it is refreshing to have someone who isn't all about himself. In an age where fans worship the likes of Lebron James, etc. it is kind of nice to have someone you kids can actually look up.

                          http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_19527588

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                          • #43
                            Re: Is Tim Tebow an NFL caliber QB?

                            Originally posted by jacksfan29 View Post
                            My guess is he'll be the same losing, as he is winning. See his press conference comments from yesterday below, I can see why so many hate him. Of course it seems a lot of the hate comes from those who hate his religion. Personally it is refreshing to have someone who isn't all about himself. In an age where fans worship the likes of Lebron James, etc. it is kind of nice to have someone you kids can actually look up.

                            http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_19527588
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                            "Life is short so make sure you spend as much time as possible arguing with strangers on the Internet." - Person

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                            • #44
                              Re: Is Tim Tebow an NFL caliber QB?

                              Originally posted by jacksfan29 View Post
                              My guess is he'll be the same losing, as he is winning. See his press conference comments from yesterday below, I can see why so many hate him. Of course it seems a lot of the hate comes from those who hate his religion. Personally it is refreshing to have someone who isn't all about himself. In an age where fans worship the likes of Lebron James, etc. it is kind of nice to have someone you kids can actually look up.

                              http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_19527588
                              I do not hate the guy or his religion, but sometimes when people continue to talk the talk, they sometimes fail to walk the walk. That is a concern of mine. ie Jimmy Bakker and Jimmy Swaggart come to mind. We are all sinners, and to constantly praise the lord becomes cheap talk after awhile. You become convinced that Tebow is without sin at least this appears to be his goal in verbalizing constantly.

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                              • #45
                                Re: Is Tim Tebow an NFL caliber QB?

                                I guess I would call myself not a fan of religion, and I don't hate him because of religion. I don't care what religion he (or anyone else, for that matter) is, I just find the media coverage of him (good and bad) overbearing and annoying. I thought the same thing about Favre, as I'm sure many of us did. At least Favre had talent, though.
                                Originally posted by JackFan96
                                Well, I don't get to sit in Mom's basement and watch sports all day

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