Sioux nickname change likely with tribe stand

[MikeHenriksen]

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This whole thing is moronic.

[22jack]

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Maybe they are not interested in the Summit League, or any league.

[1stRowFANatic]

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I just don't get this.

[BTownJack]

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UND's inclusion into the Summit League just got delayed even longer. Probably 1-2 years. The ND State Board of Education voted 5-3 on Friday to delay getting rid of the mascot till November. All in an effort to try and gain tribe support, once again.

This just baffles me. UND was hoping for inclusion into the Summit League in 2011-2012 but now that is in jeopardy.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/...=NCAAHeadlines

[tjbison]

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It will cost them a heck of a lot less to change it on their terms than have an outside entity control when it gets changed.

Yep, and the longer they fight, the more it actually will cost, as NO conference in their right mind wants to be involved with them. The GWC is only temporary for most schools and isn't a home.

[1stRowFANatic]

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It will cost them a heck of a lot less to change it on their terms than have an outside entity control when it gets changed.

[joeboo22]

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You guys do realize that's UND's mascot prior to being the Sioux was the flickertails? They changed it sometime in the 1920's. That's probably where any new flickertail talk came from. There's virtually no chance UND would return to the name. Someone was probably overheard joking about it and another person took it seriously.

thats very possible. I said I didn't know if it was a joke or not but was getting the same story from numerous people....

I think what some people also forget at time is how much money it will cost UND short term to switch the name.... I do think it will kill the program long term because a D-I school without a conference are not going to get very far.....

[Hammersmith]

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You guys do realize that's UND's mascot prior to being the Sioux was the flickertails? They changed it sometime in the 1920's. That's probably where any new flickertail talk came from. There's virtually no chance UND would return to the name. Someone was probably overheard joking about it and another person took it seriously.

[zooropa]

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Its very different if you read it! Unless SDSU has set up this also which I highly doubt.



anytime you have a tip line you can call its pretty bad, but you think thats normal I guess

It's certainly more specific than the "Disrespectful conduct will not be tolerated" boilerplate, but it's of the same general intent.

The tip line, though, that -is- interesting, and frankly, I don't think it's a bad idea for any program. Look what happened at Frost during the NDSU VB game, and at the 'Dome during the UNI game----

[JimmyJack]

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Not only is there no hero in this story, there are no villains (except a dead nazi)---in short the only characters are dupes, rubes, wind bags, and thumb twiddlers.

This is my new favorite single sentence ever written on sdsufans.com.

[tjbison]

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You could spoonerize that guy's name into "Fryin' Bison"

At any rate, how is this code of conduct different from any code of conduct at any university event anywhere?

At the start of every SDSU athletic event you get the good sportsmanship disclaimer. Heck, they've got about a 30 foot long poster to that effect in the NE corner of Coughlin.

Its very different if you read it! Unless SDSU has set up this also which I highly doubt.

includes a help line to report bad behavior during

anytime you have a tip line you can call its pretty bad, but you think thats normal I guess

[Mike Vicks Dead PitBulls]

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Anyone ever seen "It's A Wonderful Life"?

You know that scene where Jimmy Stewart's going on about wanting to shake the dust off his feet and see the world? And the guy that yells out the window: "Why don't you kiss her instead of talking her to death"?

Well, the SBoHE needs to change this nickname instead of talking it to death.

All the SBoHE has done is talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk and when they've gotten tired of talking they've whiled away the days and hours with long bouts of hand sitting, vast stretches of butt scratching, and the occasional whimsy of a deadline with no more teeth than a superannuated garter snake.

One cannot respect any participant in this debate. The SBoHE has displayed the sort of strategic insight that one is accustomed to see from headless chickens, one tribe issued a meaningless and unenforceable proclamation, while the other says, "we'd love to talk, as long as we don't have to talk about anything in particular."

The boosters who are threatening to take their money and go home like so many whiny spoiled four year olds, the Ralph Englestad Arena trust which claims to be thoroughly uninvolved in this despite its continual meddling in UND affairs, and the nickname opponents who would embarrass LaRouche Democrats and UFO enthusiasts with some of their conspiracy theories.

Some people have said that this should be turned into a book.

Such an idea is absolutely ludicrous.

Not only is there no hero in this story, there are no villains (except a dead nazi)---in short the only characters are dupes, rubes, wind bags, and thumb twiddlers; and if you think you can get something exciting out of that......

The story would best fit in the film noir genre. I bet Joel and Ethan Coen could come up with something.

[zooropa]

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You could spoonerize that guy's name into "Fryin' Bison"

At any rate, how is this code of conduct different from any code of conduct at any university event anywhere?

At the start of every SDSU athletic event you get the good sportsmanship disclaimer. Heck, they've got about a 30 foot long poster to that effect in the NE corner of Coughlin.

[tjbison]

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I know several Native Americans and consider them friends, they have no respect for the School or Logo. This is exactly why also

http://www.inforum.com/event/article/id/259524/

anytime you have to do this it shows ZERO respect and is totally sad for a University. Yes I'm a Bison fan but also take pride in any entity that represents North Dakota and honestly right now UND is way off my radar.

[zooropa]

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Anyone ever seen "It's A Wonderful Life"?

You know that scene where Jimmy Stewart's going on about wanting to shake the dust off his feet and see the world? And the guy that yells out the window: "Why don't you kiss her instead of talking her to death"?

Well, the SBoHE needs to change this nickname instead of talking it to death.

All the SBoHE has done is talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk and when they've gotten tired of talking they've whiled away the days and hours with long bouts of hand sitting, vast stretches of butt scratching, and the occasional whimsy of a deadline with no more teeth than a superannuated garter snake.

One cannot respect any participant in this debate. The SBoHE has displayed the sort of strategic insight that one is accustomed to see from headless chickens, one tribe issued a meaningless and unenforceable proclamation, while the other says, "we'd love to talk, as long as we don't have to talk about anything in particular."

The boosters who are threatening to take their money and go home like so many whiny spoiled four year olds, the Ralph Englestad Arena trust which claims to be thoroughly uninvolved in this despite its continual meddling in UND affairs, and the nickname opponents who would embarrass LaRouche Democrats and UFO enthusiasts with some of their conspiracy theories.

Some people have said that this should be turned into a book.

Such an idea is absolutely ludicrous.

Not only is there no hero in this story, there are no villains (except a dead nazi)---in short the only characters are dupes, rubes, wind bags, and thumb twiddlers; and if you think you can get something exciting out of that......