Baylor sanctions.

[bigticket1]

Re: Baylor sanctions.

Let's not get carried away here. I think a more reasonable and likely NCAA solution would be to suspend Brittney Griner, Robert Griffin III, and Perry Jones for the first 5 games next season.

At least 2 of those 3 won't be around to suspend. And besides,it wasn't the players fault that coaches decided to break the rules by making contact though phone calls and twitter when they knew it was illegal.

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

Re: Baylor sanctions.

At least 2 of those 3 won't be around to suspend. And besides,it wasn't the players fault that coaches decided to break the rules by making contact though phone calls and twitter when they knew it was illegal.

My previous post was a joke aimed at making fun of the NCAA and the Ohio State football sanctions.

[RabbitObsessed]

Re: Baylor sanctions.

I really hope a bunch people that I don't know get punished for allegedly breaking some arbitrary rules set up by a corrupt organization. Especially if some of the people that get punished are college aged athletes.

But, alas.

Hopefully this creates more fake outrage.

[Nidaros]

Re: Baylor sanctions.

But, alas.

Hopefully this creates more fake outrage.

Nothing from President Ken Star? I suppose he is saving his legal ammunition in a latter battle of the war.

[SturgisJeff]

Re: Baylor sanctions.

according to tweets from people in the know. the NCAA will not give Baylor any more punishment. self imposed will be fine with them.

[jackdaniel]

Re: Baylor sanctions.

So, the cheating goes on,and why not?With the big money making athletic programs the NCAA has no backbone,and they know it and take full advantage of it.The whole system(including the NCAA) is one big money making consortium .I always thought the NCAA was a group of idealists in the purist form of the word.The idea being to keep money and it's corrupting influences out of college athletics.They're failing miserably, if indeed,they were ever that idealistic in the first place,

[Nidaros]

Re: Baylor sanctions.

So, the cheating goes on,and why not?With the big money making athletic programs the NCAA has no backbone,and they know it and take full advantage of it.The whole system(including the NCAA) is one big money making consortium .I always thought the NCAA was a group of idealists in the purist form of the word.The idea being to keep money and it's corrupting influences out of college athletics.They're failing miserably, if indeed,they were ever that idealistic in the first place,

I tend to agree with what you are saying, except individuals are not compensated but rather institutions, who use this revenue for a number of purposes such as building facilities. As far as being idealistic, the presidents did get real about graduation rates. I recall from a forum a few years back on the Certification process, Dr Oien cited the presidents and all the work they had in putting in place the graduation process that we now have. In that sense they have taken the high ground morally, but the money flows and that is how it works. Can you imagine SDSU turning down a 5 million dollar donation? We are no longer D2, and can NOT point our moral fingers at institutions such as Baylor when they get caught with their hands in the cookie jar.

[RabbitObsessed]

Re: Baylor sanctions.

So, the cheating goes on,and why not?With the big money making athletic programs the NCAA has no backbone,and they know it and take full advantage of it.The whole system(including the NCAA) is one big money making consortium .I always thought the NCAA was a group of idealists in the purist form of the word.The idea being to keep money and it's corrupting influences out of college athletics.They're failing miserably, if indeed,they were ever that idealistic in the first place,

THAT'S what you thought the NCAA was?

Really? Really? /Seth and Amy

[jack power]

Re: Baylor sanctions.

So, the cheating goes on,and why not?With the big money making athletic programs the NCAA has no backbone,and they know it and take full advantage of it.The whole system(including the NCAA) is one big money making consortium .I always thought the NCAA was a group of idealists in the purist form of the word.The idea being to keep money and it's corrupting influences out of college athletics.They're failing miserably, if indeed,they were ever that idealistic in the first place,

Your outrage is duly noted. Based on what this 29 month investigation revealed, what do you think they should get for additional penaties?

[jackdaniel]

Re: Baylor sanctions.

Your outrage is duly noted. Based on what this 29 month investigation revealed, what do you think they should get for additional penaties?

I think it's blatant non-compliance,and should be taken more seriously than to allow them to get by with their self imposed slap on the wrist.Punishment should be more than self-imposed ,get some b****,NCAA.It's hard enough to recruit against the power six conferences as it is ,then they have to cheat besides.....C'mon,where's your outrage anyway!No matter how fat the fat man gets,he's still grabbing for more pie isn't he?

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

Re: Baylor sanctions.

I think it's blatant non-compliance,and should be taken more seriously than to allow them to get by with their self imposed slap on the wrist.Punishment should be more than self-imposed ,get some b****,NCAA.It's hard enough to recruit against the power six conferences as it is ,then they have to cheat besides.....C'mon,where's your outrage anyway!No matter how fat the fat man gets,he's still grabbing for more pie isn't he?

The cynic in me says Baylor wasn't cheating to gain an advantage over smaller conference schools, but to keep up with the cheating already being done at other major programs. Perhaps Baylor played by the rules for years, continually getting rolled by the big boys. Maybe the last decade they finally decided to play the game instead of playing by the rules.

IMO, a big reason why its so hard for coaches to break from mid-major success into major success. There are a lot of really, really good mid-major coaches out there. People always say they can coach, but they can't recruit. I say they can coach, but they don't know how to cheat effectively yet.

The conspiracy theorist in me says Baylor isn't being held accountable because their peers aren't outraged. Their peers do the same thing and just haven't been caught yet, and Baylor is without a rival big enough to make a stink.

[jack power]

Re: Baylor sanctions.

I think it's blatant non-compliance,and should be taken more seriously than to allow them to get by with their self imposed slap on the wrist.Punishment should be more than self-imposed ,get some b****,NCAA.It's hard enough to recruit against the power six conferences as it is ,then they have to cheat besides.....C'mon,where's your outrage anyway!No matter how fat the fat man gets,he's still grabbing for more pie isn't he?

You never answered the question. What should the additional penalty be?

[jackdaniel]

Re: Baylor sanctions.

Recind their Nt'l Championship and give it to the best team who didn't cheat ,they'll never do that though,that would take far too much conviction to do what's right.

[bigticket1]

Re: Baylor sanctions.

Recind their Nt'l Championship and give it to the best team who didn't cheat ,they'll never do that though,that would take far too much conviction to do what's right.

The NCAA wasn't going to do that,but the loss of a scholarship would have been appropriate.

[jackdaniel]

Re: Baylor sanctions.

I think the NCAA is slowly but surely losing control of college athletics,kind of sad to see how powerless they are.There comes a point where everyone sees the benefits of non-compliance far,far exceeds the consequences.Only integrity stands in the way from everyone cheating,it's sure not sanctions.In today's world ,integrity is just barely hanging on.Cheaters never prosper,that has kind of a humorous ring to it,doesn't it?I'll get off my high horse now and take my place besides the "masses" and pretend that everyone who gets caught violating the rules are justly punished.