Baylor sanctions.

[jackrabbit1979]

Re: Baylor sanctions.

If they have to forfeit wins from last season, does that mean we get our first big dance victory?

And more importantly, NCAA tournament shares for the victory?

[jackdaniel]

Re: Baylor sanctions.

Personally I think it's humorous after their preposterous "Our school is clean...NOW" crap they pulled before the NCAA tournament game.

Also diggin in the deliciousness that Coach Mulkey and her staff are the main violators, and they got a ton of information from Griner and her Father.

Baylor can go suck an egg.

Obviously,sanctions don't prevent a team from winning a NC by stepping up their cheating to gain an unfair advantage in the recruiting war.A regrettable "mistake " is maybe a handful,but 1,200 impermissable phone calls and text messages .....wow,that's a downright slap in the face to the NCAA ....JMO

[witness]

Re: Baylor sanctions.

I guess these allegations don't really bother me. I find it worse when coaches get players out of trouble, when a school over recruits and then cuts the end of the bench guys who actually go to class. I find it bad when a school fires a coach or the coach leaves and then the recruits are not let out of their LOI's. I had the 1 and done rule where they only have to show up to class until December and then can do whatever they want after because they know they are going pro. I think Baylor is dirty, but I think its one of those things where they couldn't prove the real dirty things they did. The Ohio player who says that Drew contacted him last year (he is a sophomore). Reports of dirty recruiting, , you go from a school that had a player murdered, was covered up by the team, weren't allowed to play out of conference games for a year to being a top 10 team in less then 10 years? They gave the modern day death penalty to Baylor basketball and they turned it around in a hurry. Maybe they are just that good, IDK.

Talking about your first point. Did you perhaps read the story about Urban Meyer in Sporting News I believe. You basically summed everything up in a nutshell. Wonder how long he will last at OSU

[Nidaros]

Re: Baylor sanctions.

I guess these allegations don't really bother me. I find it worse when coaches get players out of trouble, when a school over recruits and then cuts the end of the bench guys who actually go to class. I find it bad when a school fires a coach or the coach leaves and then the recruits are not let out of their LOI's. I had the 1 and done rule where they only have to show up to class until December and then can do whatever they want after because they know they are going pro.

I think Baylor is dirty, but I think its one of those things where they couldn't prove the real dirty things they did. The Ohio player who says that Drew contacted him last year (he is a sophomore). Reports of dirty recruiting, , you go from a school that had a player murdered, was covered up by the team, weren't allowed to play out of conference games for a year to being a top 10 team in less then 10 years? They gave the modern day death penalty to Baylor basketball and they turned it around in a hurry. Maybe they are just that good, IDK.

With the capital campaign coming to a close at SDSU, you can not help wonder what is going through the minds of those generous donors to Baylor U. Sure, many of those donors are deep in conviction of the Baptist faith, and the good Lord has blessed them with more assets than they need so they transfer these assets to Baylor University. Many have donated to the athletic department and have not missed an event all year long. To open their newspapers and to read about these alleged sanactions has to affect them in some way. Is it no big deal? Or is it a big deal that you want to close their checkbook for ever? You got to wonder whats going through their minds. They have a vested interest in Baylor as an institution, and to learn that they have not followed all the rules has to be troubling. But how troubling?

[bigticket1]

Re: Baylor sanctions.

With the capital campaign coming to a close at SDSU, you can not help wonder what is going through the minds of those generous donors to Baylor U. Sure, many of those donors are deep in conviction of the Baptist faith, and the good Lord has blessed them with more assets than they need so they transfer these assets to Baylor University. Many have donated to the athletic department and have not missed an event all year long. To open their newspapers and to read about these alleged sanactions has to affect them in some way. Is it no big deal? Or is it a big deal that you want to close their checkbook for ever? You got to wonder whats going through their minds. They have a vested interest in Baylor as an institution, and to learn that they have not followed all the rules has to be troubling. But how troubling?

Baptists like national championships and Heisman Trophy winners too.

[jackrabit1]

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Apparently Methodists did too, and look where that got SMU back in 1987.

[Nidaros]

Re: Baylor sanctions.

Baptists like national championships and Heisman Trophy winners too.

Yeah I am afraid so. So I guess they roll with the punches. Its a beautiful campus down there, I was on a temporary job in 1995 about this time of the year, and stayed at the Best Western across the street. Nothing shabby about the campus, they seem to have money rolling in from every direction. In fact they had their first dance in history on campus when I was there. They also had a close circuit TV channel telling you about Baylor and what was going on. A great place, in fact my MD got one of her degrees down there and I have had a few discussions about Baylor. In medicine they are tops according to my MD, who grew up in SD I believe. So being a private school and affliated with the Southern Baptist Convention, they make Augustana look very small in comparison, but then again how many Lutherans own oil wells. Being affliated with ELCA, Augustana gets something like $30,000 from the church in support, so being affliated does not mean much in terms of support dollars. I suspect the same is true with Baylor. They are tuition and endowment driven in terms of finances.

[MontanaRabbit]

Re: Baylor sanctions.

Apparently Methodists did too, and look where that got SMU back in 1987.

SMU has not been the same since.

I doubt the same happens to Baylor, however saying that because a college is a religuous college and thus does no wrong is ludicrous. Modern day churches are businesses they must raise revenue to stay in business. Baylor university does not exist just to promote the Baptist's message. Athletics can raise a tremendous amount of revenue to a university.

[Nidaros]

Re: Baylor sanctions.

SMU has not been the same since.

I doubt the same happens to Baylor, however saying that because a college is a religuous college and thus does no wrong is ludicrous. Modern day churches are businesses they must raise revenue to stay in business. Baylor university does not exist just to promote the Baptist's message. Athletics can raise a tremendous amount of revenue to a university.

Bingo!!!!!!! Thats why if you dig enough through annual reports, you will find that the affliation does not mean a whole bunch in terms of support dollars. Baylor seems to be moving up the list in athletes raising tremendous amouts of revenue. Something tells me that the sanctions are not likely to amount to much. The whistle blowers will no doubt be disappointed, but that is the facts Jack.

[Nidaros]

Re: Baylor sanctions.

Look who is the current president of Baylor U.

http://www.baylor.edu/president/index.php?id=73711

Legally they could not go wrong.

[MontanaRabbit]

Re: Baylor sanctions.

Bingo!!!!!!! Thats why if you dig enough through annual reports, you will find that the affliation does not mean a whole bunch in terms of support dollars. Baylor seems to be moving up the list in athletes raising tremendous amouts of revenue. Something tells me that the sanctions are not likely to amount to much. The whistle blowers will no doubt be disappointed, but that is the facts Jack.

What SMU did in the 80's was far worse than what Baylor is accused of. If I recall correctly didn't they cancel a season or two of SMU football?

[Nidaros]

Re: Baylor sanctions.

What SMU did in the 80's was far worse than what Baylor is accused of. If I recall correctly didn't they cancel a season or two of SMU football?

From what I remember, SMU was guilty of many things, and you are right they did not play a couple of seasons. They literally had to rebuild their program. Havent heard much about them recently. I know they were once a member of the Southwest Conference which was basically all Texas schools. The SMU scandal may have lead to the downfall of the Southwest Conference.

[Theee Catrabbit]

Re: Baylor sanctions.

I think it just goes to show if a school that was nowhere in any sport all of a sudden turns it around and is getting NC and heisman players, in no time (in multiple sports mind you) that there are some dirty dealings going on, not just txt messages and phone calls. And I hope they vacate Mulkey's championship, there you go, that's the type of coach you have. The only lucky thing they have going for them is Petrino is getting all the air time right now, nationally the story is being somewhat ignored by the worldwide leader.

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

Re: Baylor sanctions.

I think it just goes to show if a school that was nowhere in any sport all of a sudden turns it around and is getting NC and heisman players, in no time (in multiple sports mind you) that there are some dirty dealings going on, not just txt messages and phone calls. And I hope they vacate Mulkey's championship, there you go, that's the type of coach you have. The only lucky thing they have going for them is Petrino is getting all the air time right now, nationally the story is being somewhat ignored by the worldwide leader.

Let's not get carried away here. I think a more reasonable and likely NCAA solution would be to suspend Brittney Griner, Robert Griffin III, and Perry Jones for the first 5 games next season.

[RabbitObsessed]

Re: Baylor sanctions.

I really hope a bunch people that I don't know get punished for allegedly breaking some arbitrary rules set up by a corrupt organization. Especially if some of the people that get punished are college aged athletes.