ND legislature and Sioux name

[joeboo22]

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I wonder where SUU will find affiliation for baseball; Summit, Big West or WAC?

That is what I was thinking if they could add, SUU, UNC and UND for baseball they would strengthen the conference for baseball. They need to add at least 1 program I believe to maintain the D-I qualifier.

[Prairiehaas]

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I wonder where SUU will find affiliation for baseball; Summit, Big West or WAC?

[joeboo22]

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Maybe, though UNO will come in to replace ORU and keep the conference at 7 teams. Now if USD would start playing again ...

Southern Utah is leaving as well. UMKC had planned on starting a baseball program but it sounds as if that has stalled.

[Prairiehaas]

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Maybe, though UNO will come in to replace ORU and keep the conference at 7 teams. Now if USD would start playing again ...

[joeboo22]

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The thing about baseball is you are going to travel a ton with or without a conference. I wouldn't be surprised if they are accepted in baseball only for the Summit League

[zooropa]

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I think that's what everyone wants

Everyone is a lot of people.

I for one don't want them in the Summit. Their administration spit on the SL, their fans dumped on the SL, and their coach skipped the press conference with an old NCC foe in a familiar facility.

Their president has no control over the athletic department, and neither he nor the athletic director were able to keep Hakstol from sabotaging their efforts to join the Big Sky and simultaneously undermine the independence of their institution by encouraging people to support the nickname law.

I do not want THIS UND in the Summit anymore than I want Chicago State in the Summit. Both institutions are dysfunctional, severely dysfunctional.

[MaddogJack]

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Thanks Nidaros, I did not know the "Upchuck and Ralph" was not on campus, as I have never had a desire to go to Grand Forks. Good info.

Not many people will have the desire or opportunity to visit Grand Forks or "the Ralph" in the near future once these idiots shoot themselves in the foot and get this on the ballot.

What a bunch of cheap, lying, no-good, rotten, four-flushing, low-life, snake-licking, dirt-eating, inbred, overstuffed, ignorant, blood-sucking, dog-kissing, brainless, dickless, hopeless, heartless, fat-ass, bug-eyed, stiff-legged, spotty-lipped, worm-headed sack of monkey **** they are! Hallelujah! Holy ****! Where's the Tylenol? - Clark Griswold

The NCAA is going to step on their throats until their grandchildren can't breath. They will never host an NCAA game, much less and NCAA tournament in that building. The Big Sky will wash their hands of them on this. Get a clue North Dakota - the NCAA is bigger than UND Hockey.

[Nidaros]

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My guess is the Big Sky will not accept UND in, I'm calling right here. With absolutely no factual basis whatsoever, UND will end up in the Summit eventually. Secretly, I think that's what everyone wants, except for a few delusional UND fans.

It would help the UND baseball program, they have no conference going into the Big Sky since the Big Sky does not offer that sport.

[filbert]

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My guess is the Big Sky will not accept UND in, I'm calling right here. With absolutely no factual basis whatsoever, UND will end up in the Summit eventually. Secretly, I think that's what everyone wants, except for a few delusional UND fans.

Re: your exception: that would be ALL "delusional UND fans." And pretty much all NDSU fans that I've ever heard offer an opinion on the issue, too, come to think of it . . . strange bedfellows of a sort . . .

[Nidaros]

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The Ralph was very carefully constructed. Englestad had his own construction company build the facility with his money on private property and before he died he was about turn the buidling over to the univeristy. That never happened and there might be leverage for the logo based on that alone.

[Theee Catrabbit]

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My guess is the Big Sky will not accept UND in, I'm calling right here. With absolutely no factual basis whatsoever, UND will end up in the Summit eventually. Secretly, I think that's what everyone wants, except for a few delusional UND fans.

[Theee Catrabbit]

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I am breaking my pledge of not commenting on this thread by offering this bit of information. The NCAA is sending representatives to GF next week to try and work some of the points of difference out. Like the removal of the logos imbedded into granite floors and outside the building there are largo logos that might have to come down. Earl Striden, a Board of Directors of the Ralph Englestad Corporation said they would not spend one penny towards removal of the logos. Having this facility on a privately owned land and not part of the university, creates some different issues that the NCAA has never faced before.

JackJD has a point about the legal process, but it might come down to allowing the Ralph to be used for NCAA sanctioned events.

Thanks Nidaros, I did not know the "Upchuck and Ralph" was not on campus, as I have never had a desire to go to Grand Forks. Good info.

[Nidaros]

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Yeah, you're probably right.

What seems to be totally lost is the fact that the issue -- at least as far as the NCAA is concerned -- went to court and a settlement was reached which was approved by the court in a judgment resolving the litigation. End of story as far as the NCAA is concerned (and it should be the end -- we have to have some finality or people will just come up with new ways to keep the issue "alive" (like, what they're doing right now?)

I am breaking my pledge of not commenting on this thread by offering this bit of information. The NCAA is sending representatives to GF next week to try and work some of the points of difference out. Like the removal of the logos imbedded into granite floors and outside the building there are largo logos that might have to come down. Earl Striden, a Board of Directors of the Ralph Englestad Corporation said they would not spend one penny towards removal of the logos. Having this facility on a privately owned land and not part of the university, creates some different issues that the NCAA has never faced before.

JackJD has a point about the legal process, but it might come down to allowing the Ralph to be used for NCAA sanctioned events.

[JackJD]

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You don't think that some of the wingnuts in the ND legislature aren't involved in this,albeit behind the scenes ?

Yeah, you're probably right.

What seems to be totally lost is the fact that the issue -- at least as far as the NCAA is concerned -- went to court and a settlement was reached which was approved by the court in a judgment resolving the litigation. End of story as far as the NCAA is concerned (and it should be the end -- we have to have some finality or people will just come up with new ways to keep the issue "alive" (like, what they're doing right now?)

[joeboo22]

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I have a few friends from North Dakota that a year or 2 ago were dead against the name change, and today when I asked them about this they shook there heads and said enough is enough, just change it already.