Taylor Martinez quits NE?

[RabbitObsessed]

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Even though I was joking 100%, I would hope that a coaches system wouldn't change for just 1 player. Seems counter productive for a short stint.

I think certain players warrant a change in offensive philosophy. I'm not sure if Martinez would be that type of player (0 chance he transfers here, I know), but he COULD be that type of player. It is silly to have a super talented player and not utilize him properly because "he doesn't fit the system." If changing the system to utilize that player results in a better team, it is arrogant not to change.

[slosho]

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Even though I was joking 100%, I would hope that a coaches system wouldn't change for just 1 player. Seems counter productive for a short stint.

I agree with RO... this logic seems shortsighted. And I believe we already make changes based upon personnel.

For example: this year we weren't trying to burn them deep.. that was something we utilized JaRon for.. (2 yrs ago I know...)

The base talent level although exceptionally high isn't like what you would get in say the NFL where players are all at a level that allows you to coach more in this manner.

[Rabbitden]

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The video I've seen of this shows Pelini pretty aggressively poking (actual physical contact) Martinez in the chest while screaming at him while inches from his face.

That kind of behavior isn't acceptable in society, and shouldn't be acceptable on a college sideline while addressing a 19 year old. In fact, if documented in the private sector, it would probably get you fired at any company with a decent HR department. They don't even allow this type of behavior at boot camp.

If I was Martinez, I'd quit and sue the school.

I don't know what boot camp you went to but that would be considered a loving lesson at the boot camp I attended in San Diego.

[Nidaros]

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I don't know what boot camp you went to but that would be considered a loving lesson at the boot camp I attended in San Diego.

Choking in USN boot camp at Great Lakes was perfectly okay too as I recall, Nov-Dec 1965. It was not unusual for the company commander to walk up to a non-performing recruit and grab him around the neck and shake the living delights out of them. Conforming comes slowly for some folks. And so it goes with Martinez.

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

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I don't know what boot camp you went to but that would be considered a loving lesson at the boot camp I attended in San Diego.

Drill Sergeants are prohibited from harming recruits via physical contact. The meaning of the word "harming" has changed pretty dramatically in the last ten years. Drill sergeants pretty much don't touch recruits anymore.

[SDSUAlum08]

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The video I've seen of this shows Pelini pretty aggressively poking (actual physical contact) Martinez in the chest while screaming at him while inches from his face.

That kind of behavior isn't acceptable in society, and shouldn't be acceptable on a college sideline while addressing a 19 year old. In fact, if documented in the private sector, it would probably get you fired at any company with a decent HR department. They don't even allow this type of behavior at boot camp.

If I was Martinez, I'd quit and sue the school.

Thus the reason people are so soft these days. You're completely right in that society doesn't accept this anymore, but sometimes people need an ass kicking or butt chewing to get them in line.

[SturgisJeff]

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I heard rumors down at Aunt Millie's Bread Shop that the Jacks were interested in bringing Brad Childress in as offensive coordinator and Tim Brewster as Defensive Coordinator. Taylor Martinez was definately coming in at QB next year under Chilly.

[SoDakJack]

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I think certain players warrant a change in offensive philosophy. I'm not sure if Martinez would be that type of player (0 chance he transfers here, I know), but he COULD be that type of player. It is silly to have a super talented player and not utilize him properly because "he doesn't fit the system." If changing the system to utilize that player results in a better team, it is arrogant not to change.

I wonder if it isn't a "chicken/egg" situation. Does a player with the physical traits similar to Martinez look to transfer to a system like the Jackrabbits where the offensive philosopy isn't condusive to those talents? Or does he go to a system that is already established? I know it is all hypothetical, but since the season ended we have to talk football somehow!

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

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Thus the reason people are so soft these days. You're completely right in that society doesn't accept this anymore, but sometimes people need an ass kicking or butt chewing to get them in line.

If you wouldn't put up with it at a job, why would you put up with it on the college sideline?

Sorry, but IMO nobody deserves an ass kicking for something that happens in a college football game. Coaches that physically confront players are a thing of the past, that's the reality, and Pelini better figure that out. He does this again, and he will likely be looking for a new job. He does this with the wrong staff member, student assistant, or graduate assistant, and he and the university may lose a bundle in a lawsuit.

It is irresponsible for a state institution to condone and accept this kind of behavior.

[22jack]

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The schools Chancellor was not impressed either.


http://www.argusleader.com/article/2...ATES/101122021

[CatchEmAll]

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Speaking of hypotheticals, Martinez would be well suited to an offense like Georgia Tech's. The midline, veer, option package would be great for a player with his running abilities. If they reverted back to the glory days of Nebraska football, Martinez would fit right into that offense.

[BitsTD]

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If I was Martinez, I'd quit and sue the school.

Why on Earth would you sue the school? So you can cost the State of Nebraska millions of dollars? If you sally up and sue anyone it should be Pelini.

I won't even get into my tirade about how BS it is that this society is so "sue happy".

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

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Why on Earth would you sue the school? So you can cost the State of Nebraska millions of dollars? If you sally up and sue anyone it should be Pelini.

I won't even get into my tirade about how BS it is that this society is so "sue happy".

Say I worked at Wal Mart and could document consistent aggressive behavior, including physical altercations, from the regional manager. Furthermore, Wal Mart continually supports the manager and their actions, refusing to acknowledge any wrong doing. Would I sue the manager or Wal Mart?

Society is sue happy, that is just the reality today. People need to adjust behavior to fit with reality, and Pelini hasn't done that.

One reason that society is sue happy is that people behave in inappropriate manners that are institutionally endorsed or tolerated. Institutional support of abusive behavior (whether sexual harassment or physical and verbal abuse) should not be acceptable.

I'm sure there is a lawyer who would love to take on Nebraska and Pelini over his behavior, whether on behalf or Martinez or some other underling working day to day with the football staff. If that's the way he acts on national TV, how do you suppose he acts at practice and behind closed doors?

I can tell you, I wouldn't put up with it. And if my wife or child had a superior who treated them like that, and it was documented, I would seriously consider a suit. It is not acceptable behavior anywhere in society, and without consequences, what is Pelini's or Nebraska's incentive to change?

[SoDakJack]

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Speaking of hypotheticals, Martinez would be well suited to an offense like Georgia Tech's. The midline, veer, option package would be great for a player with his running abilities. If they reverted back to the glory days of Nebraska football, Martinez would fit right into that offense.

My only concern with Martinez in a Georgia Tech type offense is the beating that he would take on about every play. He may be fast, but it seems that his toughness is the question. Perhaps more of a Urban Meier Utah type offense with the sprint read option.

[jackmd]

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I can tell you, I wouldn't put up with it. And if my wife or child had a superior who treated them like that, and it was documented, I would seriously consider a suit. It is not acceptable behavior anywhere in society, and without consequences, what is Pelini's or Nebraska's incentive to change?

This attitude is a major problem in many areas of our society. Instead of resolving the issues via appropriate measure people think they have right to or need to contact a lawyer and involve the legal system. This leads to a cascade of events that generates very little except cash for an attorney and headaches for everyone else involved. At what point in our society did every personnel conflict become a legal issue?

In almost every instance issues like this one can be resolved by the parties involved and their superiors. There are rare instances when legal measures involving outside counsel arise. Pelini was out of line, he should apologize and make an effort to improve understanding that there will be consequences if he does not. Those consequences should not involve the legal system, especially not criminal charges.

Our society is much to litigious and that is creating more harm than good.