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    looking for info on 11AAA and their future scheduling. aren't the sioux falls schools dropping Rapid City from the schedule very soon? I know they are expecting a couple of the area schools to grow enough to add them to a "metro conference", which would probably be a few years down the road. I believe the ESD stated they would help Rapid City out with their scheduling? Also, are the Sioux Falls schools looking to adding games from the Sioux City schools again? thanks for any info on the latest.

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    The Sioux Falls schools already have the Metro Conference, and the ESD added the Rapid City schools as "Football Only" members. As for scheduling, as far as I know, the State still scheduling Rapid City versus Sioux Falls schools, but maybe not nearly as frequently.
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      The Greater Dakota Conference, which included the 4 SF schools, 2 RC schools, Sturgis and Spearfish has already disbanded. I believe there is already a new Metro Conference which includes the 4 SF schools and Brandon Valley. I would assume Harrisburg will be added to that someday. Starting next year there will be an 11 team ESD with 2 divisons. One divison with the 2 RC schools, Watertown, Aberdeen and Brandon Valley(all 11AAA schools) and a divison with Yankton, Mitchell, Pierre, Huron, Harrisburg and Brookings. Im assuming the the SF schools with still play SD teams. Hadnt heard anything about them playing the SC schools again.

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        Originally posted by jackrabit1 View Post
        The Sioux Falls schools already have the Metro Conference, and the ESD added the Rapid City schools as "Football Only" members. As for scheduling, as far as I know, the State still scheduling Rapid City versus Sioux Falls schools, but maybe not nearly as frequently.
        Football scheduling is done by the SD HS Activities Association.

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          Originally posted by mitchellrabbit View Post
          The Greater Dakota Conference, which included the 4 SF schools, 2 RC schools, Sturgis and Spearfish has already disbanded. I believe there is already a new Metro Conference which includes the 4 SF schools and Brandon Valley. I would assume Harrisburg will be added to that someday. Starting next year there will be an 11 team ESD with 2 divisons. One divison with the 2 RC schools, Watertown, Aberdeen and Brandon Valley(all 11AAA schools) and a divison with Yankton, Mitchell, Pierre, Huron, Harrisburg and Brookings. Im assuming the the SF schools with still play SD teams. Hadnt heard anything about them playing the SC schools again.
          I remember the old SIC (Sioux Interstate Conference ) had two state championships teams one year.O'Gorman was the big school SD Champion,while either SC East or SC Heelan won the big school championship in Iowa.That really made an impression on me how one conference could win two state championships.They had some really good football teams in that conference back then.

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            i was trying to find the article that i read, at least a year ago, maybe two (time seems to go faster the older you get). i am sure it stated that the sioux falls district will be notifying the RC schools that they would no longer be scheduling them (as far as football). that is why the RC schools turned to the ESD for help. maybe the discussion about adding some games with the SC schools was just that---talk. anyway, thanks for the replies!

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              Originally posted by JackJD View Post
              Football scheduling is done by the SD HS Activities Association.
              By the State, I mean the SDHSAA. I just call it "The State" for ease of not having to say SDHSAA all the time.
              I am Ed. Fear me.

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                Originally posted by krak-r-jacks View Post
                i was trying to find the article that i read, at least a year ago, maybe two (time seems to go faster the older you get). i am sure it stated that the sioux falls district will be notifying the RC schools that they would no longer be scheduling them (as far as football). that is why the RC schools turned to the ESD for help. maybe the discussion about adding some games with the SC schools was just that---talk. anyway, thanks for the replies!
                http://www.argusleader.com/story/spo...only-/6175707/

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                • #9
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                  thanks for the link, UWMandSDSU! i am rather positive there was a different article/column before the ESD announcement. i haven't been able to do anymore digging. not a big deal. for some reason, i was thinking there was discussion of the sioux falls schools trying to schedule games with the sioux city schools again.

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                  • #10
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                    Originally posted by jackdaniel View Post
                    I remember the old SIC (Sioux Interstate Conference ) had two state championships teams one year.O'Gorman was the big school SD Champion,while either SC East or SC Heelan won the big school championship in Iowa.That really made an impression on me how one conference could win two state championships.They had some really good football teams in that conference back then.
                    SF O'Gorman was good back then. The SF public schools were garbage.
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                      Originally posted by jackdaniel View Post
                      I remember the old SIC (Sioux Interstate Conference ) had two state championships teams one year.O'Gorman was the big school SD Champion,while either SC East or SC Heelan won the big school championship in Iowa.That really made an impression on me how one conference could win two state championships.They had some really good football teams in that conference back then.
                      Better known as the "glory days" of HS Football in SD.........but not for SF Public Schools. I know there were a few instances when OG and Heelan played in the Dakota Dome both ranked as #1 in their States. Those games were huge.

                      I was a little too young to recall the dismantling of the SIC conference, but I think it had something to do with the SDHSAA demanding that the SF schools schedule RC schools. So instead of having a fantastic rivalry with the Sioux City Schools, the RC schools had to travel up to 6 hours to come to SF (and SF to RC) to get destroyed every year.

                      Open enrollment helped SF Public schools, but what really made them turn the corner was the decision to finally commit to football with a full offseason weight lifting/training regimen, which OG had been doing for years.

                      I know its not the fault of the kids as they play when and where the SDHSAA tells them to, but I think that every 11AA championship since the inception of 11AAA should have an asterisk by it. What a joke. The 11AA trophy is nothing but a participation trophy, just like it is for the ESD crowning 2 champions moving forward.

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                        Originally posted by ringthebells View Post
                        SF O'Gorman was good back then. The SF public schools were garbage.
                        And regularly blamed for recruiting kids (which I'm pretty sure they did do).

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                        • #13
                          Re: little help with SD hs football please...

                          Originally posted by TK22867 View Post
                          Better known as the "glory days" of HS Football in SD.........but not for SF Public Schools. I know there were a few instances when OG and Heelan played in the Dakota Dome both ranked as #1 in their States. Those games were huge.

                          I was a little too young to recall the dismantling of the SIC conference, but I think it had something to do with the SDHSAA demanding that the SF schools schedule RC schools. So instead of having a fantastic rivalry with the Sioux City Schools, the RC schools had to travel up to 6 hours to come to SF (and SF to RC) to get destroyed every year.

                          Open enrollment helped SF Public schools, but what really made them turn the corner was the decision to finally commit to football with a full offseason weight lifting/training regimen, which OG had been doing for years.

                          I know its not the fault of the kids as they play when and where the SDHSAA tells them to, but I think that every 11AA championship since the inception of 11AAA should have an asterisk by it. What a joke. The 11AA trophy is nothing but a participation trophy, just like it is for the ESD crowning 2 champions moving forward.

                          The Pierre team that won the first 11AA title the year 11AAA was introduced was really, really good. I always wanted them and Lincoln, who won the 11AAA that year to play a game.

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                            Originally posted by jacksfan29 View Post
                            And regularly blamed for recruiting kids (which I'm pretty sure they did do).
                            Pretty sure also. How some kids who were in the public schools maybe their freshman year, but went to OG afterwards, or when some families had kids who went to OG but some chose to stay in the public schools. Or a lot of times smaller schools or towns would send their kids to SF and some end up at OG basically for better exposure and better teams to play then staying in some small schools so they had some from out side SF move there would benefit them along with the public schools also.

                            OG blamed WHS for recruiting kids through open enrollment when a lot apparently where in the RHS transfered to WHS when Hermanson was named the head coach. I know when I was in high school there were kids who werent getting much playing time or were on really good teams that transfered to other public schools so they could have more playing time or actually play, because back then, Lincoln was pretty bad in every sport except tennis. They were always great at that.
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                              Originally posted by goon View Post
                              Pretty sure also. How some kids who were in the public schools maybe their freshman year, but went to OG afterwards, or when some families had kids who went to OG but some chose to stay in the public schools. Or a lot of times smaller schools or towns would send their kids to SF and some end up at OG basically for better exposure and better teams to play then staying in some small schools so they had some from out side SF move there would benefit them along with the public schools also.

                              OG blamed WHS for recruiting kids through open enrollment when a lot apparently where in the RHS transfered to WHS when Hermanson was named the head coach. I know when I was in high school there were kids who werent getting much playing time or were on really good teams that transfered to other public schools so they could have more playing time or actually play, because back then, Lincoln was pretty bad in every sport except tennis. They were always great at that.
                              Lincoln was always fantastic at the sport of Marching Band too

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