Big XII Tourney 2022

[Fishhook]

Let’s get the convo started!

Do we get the seed over all the NDSU wrestlers other than Franek? Other than Sloan and Carlson can we get anyone else in the finals?
How many do we qualify for nationals?

This seems to be the healthiest team we have had in recent history.

[witness]

Allocations out this week so we'll know a lot more by then about potential national qualifiers

[TheWombat]

So I lead a very boring life in the winter and I actually went through and put together projected seeds for the conference. The last seeding criteria that I could find was from 2019 which listed head-to-head wins as the first criteria followed by coaches poll rankings, quality wins, common opponents and RPI rankings. If this changed, it's probably going to be off. I'm also assuming that they seed to eight like they did last year. Here's what I came up with for the Jacks specifically. I also made a guess as to how many qualifiers would be allocated guessing that they would stick with 26-27 allocated qualifiers and 6-7 at-large bids.

125: Jordan unseeded (7 allocations)
133: Tagg 3rd (6 allocations)
141: Carlson 1st (6 allocations)
149: Kimball 8th (3 allocations)
157: O'Neil unseeded (5 allocations)
165: Cook 6th (5 allocations)
174: Devos 2nd (7 allocations)
184: King 5th (5 allocations)
197: Sloan 3rd (6 allocations)
285: Nevills 2nd (7 allocations)

I think that Carlson, Devos, and Sloan have done enough in the regular season to where they could go 0-2 at conference and still get at large bids. I don't think that this applies to Tagg or Nevills, but their seeds should make them pretty safe bets to qualify and they stand a pretty good chance of getting at-large bids even if they don't qualify at the tournament. Depending on how the conference tournaments shake out, it's possible that King or Cook could get at-large bids, but they are also in a good place to qualify based on placing. Jordan, Kimball, and O'Neil would have to wrestle beyond what most believe their abilities are, but anything could happen. At this point, I want to guess that they qualify six, but I predicted seven at the beginning of the year so I'm going to stick with that.

[opinionsaremyown]

Jacks are gettin 7 to Detroit. 8 if we get an upset.

[Northernjackrabbit]

Wombat, Nevills presumed 2nd seed based on 2 wins vs 1 to Metz?

[TheWombat]

Wombat, Nevills presumed 2nd seed based on 2 wins vs 1 to Metz?

Here's my chart for 285:

285 (7)
Seed	Weight	School
1	Wyatt Hendrickson	AF
2	AJ Nevills	SDS
3	Zach Elam	UM
4	Sam Schuyler	ISU
5	Michael Wolfgram	WVU
6	Brandon Metz	NDS
7	Luke Surber	OSU
8	Josh Heindselman	OU
9	Jacob Seeley	UNC
10	Carter Isley	UNI
11	Jaden Woodruff	UV
12	Terron Swartz	WY

His big conference wins were Metz, Elam, and Wolfgram, his losses to Surber and Metz could knock him down to four, but I had a hard time putting him below Elam with the head to head win.

[opinionsaremyown]

Wombat do you have more charts to share?

[Fishhook]

Would love to see all your charts Wombat!

[TheWombat]

125 (7)
Seed	Weight	School
1	Killian Cardinale	WVU
2	Taylor LaMont	UV
3	Trevor Mastrogiovanni	OSU
4	Brody Teske	UNI
5	Noah Surtin	UM
6	Joey Prata	OU
7	Kysen Terukina	ISU
8	Jace Koelzer	UNC
9	Jared Van Vleet	AF
10	Tanner Jordan	SDS
11	Brendan Garcia	WY
12	Lucas Rodriguez	NDU
133 (6)
Seed	Weight	School
1	Daton Fix	OSU
2	Kyle Biscoglia	UNI
3	Gabriel Tagg	SDS
4	Kellyn March	NDS
5	Haiden Drury	UV
6	Ramazan Attasauov	ISU
7	Anthony Madrigal	OU
8	Connor Brown	UM
9	Job Greenwood	WY
10	Garrett Lautenheiser	WVU
11	Dyson Kuntz	UNC
12	Sidney Flores	AF
141 (6)
Seed	Weight	School
1	Clay Carlson	SDS
2	Andrew Alirez	UNC
3	Allan Hart	UM
4	Ian Parker	ISU
5	Carter Young	OSU
6	Cael Happel	UNI
7	Dylan Droegemuller	NDS
8	Darren Green	WY
9	Ty Smith	UV
10	Cody Phippen	AF
11	Caleb Rea	WVU
12	Jacob Butler	OU
149 (3)
Seed	Weight	School
1	Kaden Gfeller	OSU
2	Willey McDougal	OU
3	Jarrett Degen	ISU
4	Josh Edmond	UM
5	Colin Realbuto	UNI
6	Jeron Jenson	WY
7	Chris Sandoval	UNC
8	Daniel Kimball	SDS
9	Gavin Sax	NDS
10	Jeffrey Boyd	WVU
11	Dylan Martinez	AF
12	Cameron Hunsaker	UV
157 (5)
Seed	Weight	School
1	David Carr	ISU
2	Jared Franek	NDS
3	Wyatt Sheets	OSU
4	Jarrett Jacques	UM
5	Derek Holschlag	UNI
6	Justin Thomas	OU
7	Jacob Wright	WY
8	Geano Petrucelli	AF
9	Jaxon Garoutte	UV
10	Nathan Moore	UNC
11	Alex Hornfeck	WVU
12	Kenny O'Neil	SDS
165 (5)
Seed	Weight	School
1	Keegan O'Toole	UM
2	Peyton Hall	WVU
3	Austin Yant	UNI
4	Luke Weber	NSU
5	Travis Wittlake	OSU
6	Tanner Cook	SDS
7	Isaac Judge	ISU
8	Joe Grello	OU
9	Cole Moody	WY
10	Jack Ganos	AF
11	Daniel Snediker	UV
12	Nick Knutson	NDU
174 (7)
Seed	Weight	School
1	Dustin Plott	OSU
2	Cade DeVos	SDS
3	Peyton Mocco	UM
4	Hayden Hastings	WY
5	Anthony Mantanona	OU
6	Lance Runyon	UNI
7	Joel Devine	ISU
8	Austin Brenner	NDS
9	Dennis Robin	WVU
10	Sam Wolf	AF
11	Kekona Fouret	UV
12	Damon Pape	UNC
184 (5)
Seed	Weight	School
1	Parker Keckeisen	UNI
2	Marcus Coleman	ISU
3	Tate Samuelson	WY
4	Dakota Geer	OSU
5	Cade King	SDS
6	Jeremiah Kent	UM
7	Keegan Moore	OU
8	Deanthony Parker	NDS
9	Jacob Armstrong	UV
10	Anthony Carmen	WVU
11	Jake Thompson	AF
12	Xavier Vasquez	UNC
197 (6)
Seed	Weight	School
1	Stephen Buchanan	WY
2	Yonger Bastida	ISU
3	Tanner Sloan	SDS
4	Rocky Elam	UM
5	Jake Woodley	OU
6	Owen Pentz	NDS
7	Evan Bockman	UV
8	Alan Clothier	UNC
9	Gavin Stika	OSU
10	John Gunderson	UNI
11	Kayne Hutchison	AF
12	Jackson Moomau	WVU
285 (7)
Seed	Weight	School
1	Wyatt Hendrickson	AF
2	AJ Nevills	SDS
3	Zach Elam	UM
4	Sam Schuyler	ISU
5	Michael Wolfgram	WVU
6	Brandon Metz	NDS
7	Luke Surber	OSU
8	Josh Heindselman	OU
9	Jacob Seeley	UNC
10	Carter Isley	UNI
11	Jaden Woodruff	UV
12	Terron Swartz	WY

[opinionsaremyown]

Thank you Wombat. Allocations go out today? Will be interested to see those.

[stchrist]

125 (6) 133 (6) 141 (7) 149 (4) 157 (6) 165 (4) 174 (8) 184 (4) 197 (7) 285 (6)

[TheWombat]

It the coaches rankings and RPI hold, Jordan, Kimball, O'Neil, Cook and King will not be eligible for at-large bids. If they don't qualify at Big 12s, they won't be going to nationals. I think this is bad news for the Jacks as King and Cook have a little more work to do than I had originally thought.

EDIT: I miss-read the qualification guidelines, finishing one spot shy of qualifying and having a win over an NQ are also factors.

[witness]

Big 12 Seeds for Jacks wrestlers:
131: Gabe Tagg (3)
141: Clay Carlson (2)
165: Tanner Cook (6)
174: Cade DeVos (2)
184: Cade King (5)
197: Tanner Sloan (2)
HWT: AJ Nevills (4)

[KSjack]

What an absolute joke that Ian Parker got the one seed over Carlson. How did they allow that? I guess it gets him away from Hart but how did it not go Carlson alirez hart Parker?


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[TheWombat]

I don't mind Cook's seed. He's pinned Yant before, he can beat him again. I don't like the matchup with Hall but hopefully he can win a match on the back side. King is going to have a pretty hard road at 184. He'll have Geer in the quarters and he gave up a major to him not too long ago. You have to feel good about the other five seeded wrestlers. Tagg just has to beat Drury in the quarters to qualify and Nevills just has to beat Wolfgram again. Carlson, Devos and Sloan will qualify almost no matter what.