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  • Northernjackrabbit
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    Watching big 12s over the weekend, I'm wondering if AJ Nevills could tell Kyle Parco to consider joining the Jacks.

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  • TheWombat
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    Originally posted by bennymj171 View Post
    Are guys like Williams or Morris where the program needs to invest recruiting time or dollars?
    Not much, but the people worth time and money are well known. I can link you to a half dozen big board lists done by people who are paid to do them if you'd like a list of the people worth lots of time and money. Hahn and co are going to spend a lot of time going after proven commodities in Minnesota and Iowa as well as big boarders from across the country. This is as it should be, but it's worth spending some time filling out the bottom half of the roster with kids who are low risk, high reward. Worst case scenario, they end up with a Kahlen Morris type who provides depth and a good practice partner, best case scenario, you get a Martin Mueller who can make a real contribution.

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  • JackedBeNimble
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    Originally posted by TheWombat View Post

    i think we mean different things they we talk about "DI caliber wrestlers" We're lucky that some people do take opportunities to compete at outside tournaments and are proven commodities. Rasmussen, Klinkhammer, and Schunke are good examples of that. Outside of that, I've always been a fan of taking a few fliers every year and you can see it they work out or not; Kahlen Morris, Schoon, and Williams are examples of guys who weren't known commodities coming out of college, but who did contribute more than enough to justify their roster spots. They're not AA contenders or even starters, but, for every starter, you're going to have three people on the roster who you hope can make an impact. Those are the people who I am really interested in because they fill out the roster, they give back to the culture of wrestling in the state, and they're super cheap. Plus, every now and they you get a Martin Mueller or a Ben Gillette who breaks through and becomes a mainstay in the line-up. That's the project that I'm working on. I feel like I'm able to achieve some degree of efficacy looking at style, mentality, involvement in other sports, etc. . .and, after results and rankings give me to top 25 or so kids in the state, I start looking at that stuff and make some guesses. At the end of the day it's just something that I do for fun and I post it here hoping to get some feedback so I can improve my predictions.
    I will say that you do a good job, as you are also active and pretty accurate on the Guillotine site as well. Appreciate the effort and passion, Wombat. Keep it coming....

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  • bennymj171
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    Are guys like Williams or Morris where the program needs to invest recruiting time or dollars?

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  • TheWombat
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    Originally posted by bennymj171 View Post

    Really tough to tell if someone is D1 level without watching them, especially when looking at SD kids. We just don’t have enough elite kids in our state to do a fair comparison when just looking at the state tournament results. A pin or dominate performance in the finals in SD doesn’t always tell you yep that kid is D1 capable. Most years there is 1, maybe 2-3 seniors that are ready for D1 in SD, maybe couple other guys that can backup on D1 but will be unlikely to be competing for all American honors.
    i think we mean different things they we talk about "DI caliber wrestlers" We're lucky that some people do take opportunities to compete at outside tournaments and are proven commodities. Rasmussen, Klinkhammer, and Schunke are good examples of that. Outside of that, I've always been a fan of taking a few fliers every year and you can see it they work out or not; Kahlen Morris, Schoon, and Williams are examples of guys who weren't known commodities coming out of college, but who did contribute more than enough to justify their roster spots. They're not AA contenders or even starters, but, for every starter, you're going to have three people on the roster who you hope can make an impact. Those are the people who I am really interested in because they fill out the roster, they give back to the culture of wrestling in the state, and they're super cheap. Plus, every now and they you get a Martin Mueller or a Ben Gillette who breaks through and becomes a mainstay in the line-up. That's the project that I'm working on. I feel like I'm able to achieve some degree of efficacy looking at style, mentality, involvement in other sports, etc. . .and, after results and rankings give me to top 25 or so kids in the state, I start looking at that stuff and make some guesses. At the end of the day it's just something that I do for fun and I post it here hoping to get some feedback so I can improve my predictions.

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  • bennymj171
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    Originally posted by TheWombat View Post

    I spend a lot of time on trackwrestlng looking up results and I follow the rankings. Sometimes I can dig up video (the state tournament is all available on video). I do the best I can with what I have, but there are probably people out there who are on the ground and have a better perspective that I do. Of course, I also can't account for grades, character, interest, etc. . .
    Really tough to tell if someone is D1 level without watching them, especially when looking at SD kids. We just don’t have enough elite kids in our state to do a fair comparison when just looking at the state tournament results. A pin or dominate performance in the finals in SD doesn’t always tell you yep that kid is D1 capable. Most years there is 1, maybe 2-3 seniors that are ready for D1 in SD, maybe couple other guys that can backup on D1 but will be unlikely to be competing for all American honors.

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  • TheWombat
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    Originally posted by bennymj171 View Post

    What do you base this write up off of? Are you watching these guys throughout the year or see them up against top competition somewhere.
    I spend a lot of time on trackwrestlng looking up results and I follow the rankings. Sometimes I can dig up video (the state tournament is all available on video). I do the best I can with what I have, but there are probably people out there who are on the ground and have a better perspective that I do. Of course, I also can't account for grades, character, interest, etc. . .

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  • bennymj171
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    Originally posted by TheWombat View Post

    I'll do a full write-up soon here but, of the fop of my head Sam Kruger at 170, Cael Larson at 138, Damion Schunke at 182 and Navarro Schunke at 285 all seem to have D1 potential. There are probably some others. Klikhammer and Rasmussen are already committed and seem to have been some smart pickups as well.
    What do you base this write up off of? Are you watching these guys throughout the year or see them up against top competition somewhere.

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  • Figure Four
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    Larson has already signed at Northern.

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  • TheWombat
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    Originally posted by witness View Post

    You usually have a good eye for what South Dakota high school wrestlers to keep an eye on. With it being state this weekend, who should SDSU be looking at?
    I'll do a full write-up soon here but, of the fop of my head Sam Kruger at 170, Cael Larson at 138, Damion Schunke at 182 and Navarro Schunke at 285 all seem to have D1 potential. There are probably some others. Klikhammer and Rasmussen are already committed and seem to have been some smart pickups as well.

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  • MontanaRabbit
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    The Shaffer kid from Pierre pinning the kid from Stevens to win the dual title was pretty awesome.

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  • witness
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    Originally posted by UWMandSDSU View Post

    Damion Schunke’s younger brother. Both train at Legends of Gold in Beresford. Their dad is an Assistant Coach for Terry Pack.
    So they are a major NDSU lean? That's dissapointing

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  • UWMandSDSU
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    Originally posted by witness View Post
    Who is this Navarro Schunke from Brandon Valley? Won 220 last year as an 8th grader and has pinned his way into the finals at HWT as a 9th grader and Track wrestling has him #18 in the nation
    Damion Schunke’s younger brother. Both train at Legends of Gold in Beresford. Their dad is an Assistant Coach for Terry Pack.

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  • witness
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    Who is this Navarro Schunke from Brandon Valley? Won 220 last year as an 8th grader and has pinned his way into the finals at HWT as a 9th grader and Track wrestling has him #18 in the nation

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  • witness
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    Originally posted by TheWombat View Post

    James Rawley, I keep seeing him interact with the coaches on Twitter but he is highly sought after so I wouldn't blame him for keeping his options open and holding off to make a decision. That said, who knows, this could be it.
    You usually have a good eye for what South Dakota high school wrestlers to keep an eye on. With it being state this weekend, who should SDSU be looking at?

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