2024-2025 Polls/NET/RPI

[peavy]

New AP poll is out, Jacks are #37 with 8 points (a Gonzaga affiliated writer for Yahoo/HoopsHQ has us at #19 giving the team 7 points - she was the lone SDSU voter last week putting the team at #22 for the Jacks 4 points -- and a UNC affiliated individual has us at #25 for 1 point). Richmond is the other midmajor (assuming you can't count Creighton) receiving votes. They play Texas in Virginia on the 15th.

NET the team is now #42. RPI is now #9 from #3. It along with SOS, etc, dipped following the conclusion of the EWU game.
Oral Roberts is #74 following the most recent win over #60 Montana State in 1OT in Tulsa. Some of the lower ranked Summit schools jumped by as much as 20 spots with at least one win over the Big Sky.
Northern Iowa's NET is #67, and Texas is #4.

From a ranking perspective, each game is obviously crucial, and a Montana loss, much similar to a Northern Iowa loss, would seemingly kill any chance of rising until like at least halfway through conference play. As the voter who has us at #19 notes (she has us above GT, #22) "Unlike the Jackrabbits, Georgia Tech’s ability to rise in the ranks will get better once conference play begins..." Just have to continue to hope for chaos with the p4 schools.

I traveled down a 50-40-90 women's rabbit hole, and came across the Elena Delle Donne Delaware teams. The 31-2 '11-'12 team was #24 by Week 4 or 5 (5-0 with a ranked win at home over #11 Penn State) and then kept rising, eventually making it to #7 come CAA tourney and then an eventual 3 tourney seed. Other than the ultimate NCAA tourney loss, they lost to #5 Maryland in College Park.

On the latest AP poll, you can see who each person voted for via the drop-down. This post on reddit has imgur links for Preseason through Week 5 voting that includes all the user votes, voter affiliation, and ranks how far they've voted from the actual results.

[jackdaniel]

New AP poll is out, Jacks are #37 with 8 points (a Gonzaga affiliated writer for Yahoo/HoopsHQ has us at #19 giving the team 7 points - she was the lone SDSU voter last week putting the team at #22 for the Jacks 4 points -- and a UNC affiliated individual has us at #25 for 1 point). Richmond is the other midmajor (assuming you can't count Creighton) receiving votes. They play Texas in Virginia on the 15th.

NET the team is now #42. RPI is now #9 from #3. It along with SOS, etc, dipped following the conclusion of the EWU game.
Oral Roberts is #74 following the most recent win over #60 Montana State in 1OT in Tulsa. Some of the lower ranked Summit schools jumped by as much as 20 spots with at least one win over the Big Sky.
Northern Iowa's NET is #67, and Texas is #4.

From a ranking perspective, each game is obviously crucial, and a Montana loss, much similar to a Northern Iowa loss, would seemingly kill any chance of rising until like at least halfway through conference play. As the voter who has us at #19 notes (she has us above GT, #22) "Unlike the Jackrabbits, Georgia Tech’s ability to rise in the ranks will get better once conference play begins..." Just have to continue to hope for chaos with the p4 schools.

I traveled down a 50-40-90 women's rabbit hole, and came across the Elena Delle Donne Delaware teams. The 31-2 '11-'12 team was #24 by Week 4 or 5 (5-0 with a ranked win at home over #11 Penn State) and then kept rising, eventually making it to #7 come CAA tourney and then an eventual 3 tourney seed. Other than the ultimate NCAA tourney loss, they lost to #5 Maryland in College Park.

On the latest AP poll, you can see who each person voted for via the drop-down. This post on reddit has imgur links for Preseason through Week 5 voting that includes all the user votes, voter affiliation, and ranks how far they've voted from the actual results.

Thank you, just the type of info I'm interested in, especially how the AP voters vote.

[peavy]

New AP poll is out. Jacks gain one additional vote from last week to put them at 31st with 9 points. They were moved from 19 to 21 in the one lady's poll and now 24 (from 25) in the North Carolina guy's poll. They've been added to Emily Adams' ballot at #23. She covers Uconn women's basketball and the Connecticut Sun (WNBA) for the Hartford Courant.
Richmond (8 points in last week's AP poll) lost to Texas playing in Virginia by 11 and lost 3 points in the poll. I'd say that's the best worst case scenario following the game against Texas this Sunday. AP voting by individual

With finals, holidays, etc, some of these teams will only play one game before the next poll is released. A lot of these power teams with 1 or 2 losses will soon find out what they're made of in the next 3 weeks. #23 Nebraska's next 3 games are at #17 Georgia Tech, at #1 UCLA, and at #7.

Net has stayed the same at 42. Oral Roberts is now 89.

One interesting thing about this transition to the committee now using NET is that they've also adjusted the breakdown of Quad 1 - Quad 4. Each of the first 3 quadrants have become smaller, making the good wins/losses more clear. Unfortunately, this means Quadrant 4 has become so large that some of those away conference games (ORU AND NDSU last year for example) that counted as quad 2 are now quad 3, and all of last year's quad 3 wins (9-0, 7-0 in the Summit) would all be Quad 4 games.

[discoDancinRabbit]

New AP poll is out. Jacks gain one additional vote from last week to put them at 31st with 9 points. They're still 19 in the one lady's poll and now 24 (from 25) in the North Carolina guy's poll.
Richmond (8 points in last week's AP poll) lost to Texas playing in Virginia by 11 and lost 3 points in the poll. I'd say that's the best worst case scenario following the game against Texas this Sunday.

With finals, holidays, etc, some of these teams will only play one game before the next poll is released. A lot of these power teams with 1 or 2 losses will soon find out what they're made of in the next 3 weeks. #23 Nebraska's next 3 games are at #17 Georgia Tech, at #1 UCLA, and at #7.

Net has stayed the same at 42. Oral Roberts is now 89.

One interesting thing about this transition to the committee now using NET is that they've also adjusted the breakdown of Quad 1 - Quad 4. Each of the first 3 quadrants have become smaller, making the good wins/losses more clear. Unfortunately, this means Quadrant 4 has become so large that some of those away conference games (ORU AND NDSU last year for example) that counted as quad 2 are now quad 3, and all of last year's quad 3 wins (9-0, 7-0 in the Summit) would all be Quad 4 games.

Shocking Texas should def put them in the top 25 AP if not top 20 even though thats a very tall order. This has the feel of a second round caliber team I don't think any other fans would doubt that.

[jackdaniel]

New AP poll is out. Jacks gain one additional vote from last week to put them at 31st with 9 points. They were moved from 19 to 21 in the one lady's poll and now 24 (from 25) in the North Carolina guy's poll. They've been added to Emily Adams' ballot at #23. She covers Uconn women's basketball and the Connecticut Sun (WNBA) for the Hartford Courant.
Richmond (8 points in last week's AP poll) lost to Texas playing in Virginia by 11 and lost 3 points in the poll. I'd say that's the best worst case scenario following the game against Texas this Sunday. AP voting by individual

With finals, holidays, etc, some of these teams will only play one game before the next poll is released. A lot of these power teams with 1 or 2 losses will soon find out what they're made of in the next 3 weeks. #23 Nebraska's next 3 games are at #17 Georgia Tech, at #1 UCLA, and at #7.

Net has stayed the same at 42. Oral Roberts is now 89.

One interesting thing about this transition to the committee now using NET is that they've also adjusted the breakdown of Quad 1 - Quad 4. Each of the first 3 quadrants have become smaller, making the good wins/losses more clear. Unfortunately, this means Quadrant 4 has become so large that some of those away conference games (ORU AND NDSU last year for example) that counted as quad 2 are now quad 3, and all of last year's quad 3 wins (9-0, 7-0 in the Summit) would all be Quad 4 games.

I've had Ga Tech vs Texas penciled in for a week or so (Dec 21) as well as Creighton vs UCLA (Dec 20), they both should be fun to watch.

[GoJacks2011]

ESPN Coaches' Poll is turning into a joke - Wisconsin, who didn't even play close against us, is getting more votes than us! Omaha almost beat them. These voters must do 0 research.

[peavy]

ESPN Coaches' Poll is turning into a joke - Wisconsin, who didn't even play close against us, is getting more votes than us! Omaha almost beat them. These voters must do 0 research.

This one is bad. Where are you even going to see the Badgers are deserving? Net is 79, one quad 2 win (Butler), rest quad 4. Minneosta 34 NET (all quad 4 wins) may have been a more believable vote.
I figured the coaches must have some relation to Indiana, but it turns out all 31 conferences get a vote. USD has been the Summit League's representative for the past two years.

The Indiana women's team lost at Butler by 10, and Wisconsin won at Butler last week on Wednesday by 7, 71-64. Wisconsin only played one game last week between polls. Indiana is 3 weeks out from having received AP votes. What's more likely, one voter accidentally putting Wisconsin at like #11 or multiple people putting Wisconsin 22-25?

I'm expecting to see an undeserving Minnesota being anywhere from 1-3 wins away from showing up in the polls.

[peavy]

Iowa beat UNI 92-86. Northern Iowa almost came back from being down as much as 18 early in the 3rd. McDermott scored 30 points on 12/26 shooting (3/11 from 3).
One Iowa fan said, "If we are the 22nd best team in the country what does that say about the rest of the country?" The board mentioned SDSU on the first page in relation to UNI.

#15 Michigan State lost to #26 Alabama in Fl 82-67.
Belmont @ #16 Kentucky was close most of the game until late 4th
#18 Tennessee beat (RV past five polls) Richmond 97-67. Richmond's other loss was to #6 Texas in Virginia 65-54.

[peavy]

5 votes in the Coaches Poll. Oregon has a NET of 35 putting the neutral court game in Hawaii right on the edge of a Quad I game making the Jacks 1-3 in that quadrant.

[jackdaniel]

Just to put into perspective how good the top 25 ranked P-4 teams we lost to are , namely TX, Ga Tech, & Duke, and I also included the Jacks as I went through each of the 26 statistical categories looking only at the top 1-50 evaluated, and you will be surprised at the results (or maybe not). No surprise Texas showed up 20 times in the top 1-50 results, 5 times being a top 1-5 team in a category, 2 times at #1, 1x at #2, 1x at #3, 1x at #4.That's an astounding feat and just shows how much of a well rounded team they are , practically no weaknesses to speak of. Similarly Ga Tech was in the 1-50 group 17 times and Duke 14, we showed 5 times. Granted, it was OOC games for the most part, with the P-4 teams playing down some of the games and non-P4 teams playing up for the preperation to get better for their respective Conference games, especially their Tournaments and the AQ that goes with winning their ConferenceTournament.

Also the more times they hit the top 50 , the bigger was our defeat when we played them , in order, Tx, Ga Tech , and Duke. I think we played Duke very close and if we caught a couple breaks we had a fair chance at winning , maybe a good chance. Ga Tech we played them pretty well I think, we played a respectable game for the most part. Texas was a home game for them, and we didn't fare well , but I think we are still integrating new players and figuring out rotations and getting things just right to be the best team we can be, not an excuse, we lost by a lot, but I think they are a final 4 team, in fact, all 3 could reach that as we all know, anything can happen in March. Our real goal is improving to be better yet, and if we get into that 1-50 group , even top 75 /100 more often and shore up some of our weaknesses, we will be . That's not a lofty goal, that's a reasonable goal. To summarize, as most have alluded to already, we had a pretty good season so far....Go Jacks!!

[peavy]

Texas lost by 15 today at home to South Carolina. Oregon lost at Ohio State. Georgia Tech lost twice this week. Many of the teams in the 20's and receiving votes lost, so I think this week is as good as any to see the team at least receive votes. Minnesota and Nebraska won too unfortunately, and they may steal some of the spotlight for a bit. Iowa has lost 3 games this week and will surely drop out.

A reporter who once tossed us a vote called it the hardest poll yet. Linder came out with his (p1)(p2) and has Creighton in there, which I think I'm okay with if it comes to them, Minnesota, or Nebraska.

[OldHare]

Texas lost by 15 today at home to South Carolina. Oregon lost at Ohio State. Georgia Tech lost twice this week. Many of the teams in the 20's and receiving votes lost, so I think this week is as good as any to see the team at least receive votes. Minnesota and Nebraska won too unfortunately, and they may steal some of the spotlight for a bit. Iowa has lost 3 games this week and will surely drop out.

A reporter who once tossed us a vote called it the hardest poll yet. Linder came out with his (p1)(p2) and has Creighton in there, which I think I'm okay with if it comes to them, Minnesota, or Nebraska.

I was watching much of the Texas/S Carolina game. The Gamecocks swarmed Texas for all loose balls and challenged every possession.. Texas shot 28%. The game was determined in the first half. Staley has rebuilt a full roster again. The game was at S Carolina.

[peavy]

new AP poll is out and Jacks aren't in it. Minnesota in at #24. Creighton, Nebraska RV. Harvard still RV. Iowa still RV vote with 3 straight losses. Got an 'almost famous' along with Creighton on Eden's poll (she voted for SDSU before, so at least she's still thinking about the team).

Tali Goodman still has Jacks at #23 in her poll (On3 article). Nebraska at 24 Creighton 25

No net movement since last week. They're going to really need to start opening the games up to see any sort of NET movement it feels. Teams with a higher NET like Louisville with good wins will keep surpassing the Jacks with the weak summit schedule.

Latest bracketology has Jacks at dreaded 9 seed facing #8 seed FSU. Winner facing USC

also ty oldhare for the correction. Forgot there were two good games in Columbia, SC this weekend (men hosted #2 Auburn and lost 66-63)

[GoJacks2011]

These polls are such a joke. The Gophers are not a top 25 team. I'll eat my words if I'm wrong but they had one of the weakest SOS in non conference play of anyone and once they start playing ranked teams, starting tomorrow night, they'll be in for a rude awakening. Creighton is better than them and we know how we fared vs them head to head.

My main thing is the post season seed. Hopefully we don't have any blips and can work our way up to a 6 seed. 7/8 seed makes it very hard to get back to a Sweet 16. I'd rather be a 11/12 than 7-10.

[GrandpaLee]

I was watching much of the Texas/S Carolina game. The Gamecocks swarmed Texas for all loose balls and challenged every possession.. Texas shot 28%. The game was determined in the first half. Staley has rebuilt a full roster again. The game was at S Carolina.

South Carolina won all phases.

Return matchup at Texas is Feb 9th - should be an epic battle on ESPN.