12 SDSU Vs 4 Stanford, Stanford/Palo Alto, CA.

[yoteforever]

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I am in Florida and tried to watch the game on ESPN last night, but all we got was UCONN. So I went to my iPad and tried to watch it there, but when I clicked on the link to the game ( 3 times ), it went to UCONN. So I didn't get to watch it, but did watch the highlights this morning.

Congratulations on on one heck of a game. That could've gone your way just as easy. The lady Jacks represented the Summit and the state of South Dakota extremely well. It really opens ones eyes just how close both programs are in being amongst the absolute best.

It it sucks to lose, especially when you could've won, but many people are wrong when they so there are no moral victories in sport. Yes there are, and you got one last night. I know you would rather have the big W, but there will be a ton of good that comes out of that game. Congrats on a great run.

[filbert]

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is this official?

Yep, 1,961 is the official attendance, from the Stanford box score:

http://www.gostanford.com//ViewConte...ENT_ID=1751663

Attendance for other Sweet Sixteen finals:
South Carolina-Kansas State, Columbia, SC: 10,048
DePaul-Louisville, Louisville, KY: 7,515
Mississippi State-Michigan State, Starkville, MS: 7,094
Connecticut-Duquesne, Storrs, CT: 6,316
Oregon State-St. Bonaventure, Corvallis, OR: 6,074
Notre Dame-Indiana, South Bend, IN: 5,750
Baylor-Auburn, Waco, TX: 4,666
Washington-Maryland, College Park, MD: 4,396
Florida State-Texas A&M, College Station, TX: 4,013
Syracuse-Albany, Syracuse, NY: 3,842
Kentucky-Oklahoma, Lexington, KY: 3,057
Tennessee-Arizona State, Tempe, AZ: 2,957
Ohio State-West Virginia, Columbus, OH: 2,557
Texas-Missouri, Austin, TX: 2,345
Stanford-SDSU, Palo Alto, CA: 1,961
UCLA-South Florida, Los Angeles, CA: 1,656

It's especially ironic because the entire reason the NCAA put forward to have the top sixteen seeds hosting the first two rounds was to increase attendance.

The simple, obvious fact is that women's college basketball is nowhere near as popular as men's college basketball. This is illustrated most graphically by the NCAA D-I tournament: all men's games are on CBS or major cable networks; women's games are on one ESPN property or streaming, only.

It also illustrates just exactly why Notre Dame's McGraw was so impressed with the turnout in Brookings. Women's basketball just doesn't draw big crowds, unless you're Connecticut in Storrs, or Tennessee in Knoxville. The Women's Final Four has not been exactly standing room only the past few years . . . plenty of spectators in the arenas are masquerading as empty seats.

AJ has recently been making the point that Brookings, SDSU, and the Upper Midwest are all pretty unusual in how strongly girl's/women's basketball is supported, and he's right.

Looking at the attendance figures above, maybe one solution would be to disallow California teams from hosting in the first/second rounds?

[bigticket1]

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Yep, 1,961 is the official attendance, from the Stanford box score:

http://www.gostanford.com//ViewConte...ENT_ID=1751663

Attendance for other Sweet Sixteen finals:
South Carolina-Kansas State, Columbia, SC: 10,048
DePaul-Louisville, Louisville, KY: 7,515
Mississippi State-Michigan State, Starkville, MS: 7,094
Connecticut-Duquesne, Storrs, CT: 6,316
Oregon State-St. Bonaventure, Corvallis, OR: 6,074
Notre Dame-Indiana, South Bend, IN: 5,750
Baylor-Auburn, Waco, TX: 4,666
Washington-Maryland, College Park, MD: 4,396
Florida State-Texas A&M, College Station, TX: 4,013
Syracuse-Albany, Syracuse, NY: 3,842
Kentucky-Oklahoma, Lexington, KY: 3,057
Tennessee-Arizona State, Tempe, AZ: 2,957
Ohio State-West Virginia, Columbus, OH: 2,557
Texas-Missouri, Austin, TX: 2,345
Stanford-SDSU, Palo Alto, CA: 1,961
UCLA-South Florida, Los Angeles, CA: 1,656

It's especially ironic because the entire reason the NCAA put forward to have the top sixteen seeds hosting the first two rounds was to increase attendance.

The simple, obvious fact is that women's college basketball is nowhere near as popular as men's college basketball. This is illustrated most graphically by the NCAA D-I tournament: all men's games are on CBS or major cable networks; women's games are on one ESPN property or streaming, only.

It also illustrates just exactly why Notre Dame's McGraw was so impressed with the turnout in Brookings. Women's basketball just doesn't draw big crowds, unless you're Connecticut in Storrs, or Tennessee in Knoxville. The Women's Final Four has not been exactly standing room only the past few years . . . plenty of spectators in the arenas are masquerading as empty seats.

AJ has recently been making the point that Brookings, SDSU, and the Upper Midwest are all pretty unusual in how strongly girl's/women's basketball is supported, and he's right.

Looking at the attendance figures above, maybe one solution would be to disallow California teams from hosting in the first/second rounds?

I would wager a bunch of money that if last night's game had been played at the Denny, it would for sure have out-drawn 15, and perhaps all 16 of those sites. If the Jacks had held on, the NCAA would be kicking itself that they didn't put us in the Sioux Falls region. It looks like they haven't opened up any of the upper level yet. If it would have been SDSU / South Carolina Friday night it could very well have been the first basketball sellout at the arena.

[SoDakJack]

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I would wager a bunch of money that if last night's game had been played at the Denny, it would for sure have out-drawn 15, and perhaps all 16 of those sites. If the Jacks had held on, the NCAA would be kicking itself that they didn't put us in the Sioux Falls region. It looks like they haven't opened up any of the upper level yet. If it would have been SDSU / South Carolina Friday night it could very well have been the first basketball sellout at the arena.

The committee knew what they were doing. There is no way they were going to give a potential home court advantage to a 12 seed in a sweet 16 game.

If SDSU, or USD, want to get put close to home, they need to get that single digit seed.

[FeaRed]

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I am in Florida and tried to watch the game on ESPN last night, but all we got was UCONN. So I went to my iPad and tried to watch it there, but when I clicked on the link to the game ( 3 times ), it went to UCONN. So I didn't get to watch it, but did watch the highlights this morning.

It was doing that for me before the game started but once it tipped off it was working

[filbert]

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It was doing that for me before the game started but once it tipped off it was working

Espn does love them some Uconn very muchly.

[SturgisJeff]

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Apparently the fans in LA and Santa Clara figured South Florida, and the Jacks were gonna be blow-outs by their mighty Bruins and Cardinal and decided to stay home. They didn't figure that those two games turned out to be the best of the night.

I think after the disappointment wears off that game film is gonna be used over and over as inspiration and training for that to never happen again. I can see the Jacks using this game and working their butts off on how to finish games strongly and not letting teams back in the game. The future is hard to predict, but I see the Jacks being very focused and intense with the goal of another tournament run. Look out for a very angry Rabbit next season.

[JackrabbitGuy]

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I didn't see a foul that sent Stanford to the line. She sold,it,by falling. We were never going to get the foul call on our last possession.

I think the foul was legit, I Think they called it on Maddie G. On the late help defense. A little earlier recognition and she could have fouled hard to prevent the 3 pt chance.

45-43 Jacks, 3:26 left in the 3rd.

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[JackrabbitGuy]

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This is getting freaking old. The stripes jobbed us tonight. Flop after flop...fouls called with zero contact. The NCAA should be embarrassed because it was obvious tonight.

I am sad too, but our girls lost the game not the refs. 4 TOS in 3 1/2 quarters and then 4 in the last 5 minutes. Avoid 1 or 2 of those or make another couple FTs and we're all looking a travel to Lexington.

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[JackrabbitGuy]

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Gotta get tickets for the regional tomorrow. A big enough crowd, maybe we get a chance to host a couple of first round games and show women's basketball what a home crowd is like.

Yeah, but the Jacks would have to be one of the top 16 seeds in order to have a chance to host first round.

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[JackrabbitGuy]

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1,961 is the announced attendence in Stanford tonight?

Wow.

And not in-a-good-way "wow."

Holy crap. Come on Stanford, you should support your really good women's basketball team better than that. Sad.

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[JackrabbitGuy]

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The committee knew what they were doing. There is no way they were going to give a potential home court advantage to a 12 seed in a sweet 16 game.

If SDSU, or USD, want to get put close to home, they need to get that single digit seed.

True. The new mission is to earn that. If the team can put together an incredible non conference season next year maybe it is possible but still that is a big leap.

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[SturgisJeff]

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Stanford presser.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?DB_OEM...&v=i1Cv0ifuPDA

[SoDakJack]

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True. The new mission is to earn that. If the team can put together an incredible non conference season next year maybe it is possible but still that is a big leap.

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The key is to keep winning. The women proved they could play with, and beat, the best teams in the country.

My memory is failing me, but I seem to remember the team not taking advantage of the TCU victory the next season. I think that the following year was somewhat of a let down. (And I mean "let down" in the way of not taking advantage of the national momentum from the previous year) This program has set the bar so high that a "let down" season would make other programs jealous

[MontanaRabbit]

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The key is to keep winning. The women proved they could play with, and beat, the best teams in the country.

My memory is failing me, but I seem to remember the team not taking advantage of the TCU victory the next season. I think that the following year was somewhat of a let down. (And I mean "let down" in the way of not taking advantage of the national momentum from the previous year) This program has set the bar so high that a "let down" season would make other programs jealous

We lost an awful lot from the team that beat TCU, mainly Warkenthein. We bring back nearly every key piece for next year and add a transfer in Wade who was a big-time recruit out of high school.