#18 DePaul GDT

[jackdaniel]

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Do we know what a pressure defense really is now? I think so.

[jackdaniel]

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And it wasnt that close. Over 30 turnovers. Unreal!

They were averaging 31.3 TO's (forcing) a game, so not surprising really. When I first saw that, I thought it had to be a misprint on their pre-game write up. We played pretty good, but Scotty said they had 78 possessions for the game. They had 28 more possessions than we had.. They'll beat a lot of teams. Wonder how many of those steals Summit ref's would call a reaching in foul though.

Waytashek(66% FG 10-15) and Clarin (66% fg 4-6) ,pretty much our offense for the second game in a row, + Stuart with 6 min for 6 pts. Ellie 3-5 for 60% fg% and 7 pts.

Mitchell 16 TO's, ouch,(handled the ball a lot?).We had 34 TO's as a team.We are not alone, they've forced 25 TO's against T A&M,22 for Tx Pan AM,39 for Bradley and 39 for NM. Wow!

[JamesJacks]

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Giving up 88 and 84 points in consecutive games is concerning. Schedule lightens the next two games which will help.

[Southeast]

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They were averaging 31.3 TO's (forcing) a game, so not surprising really. When I first saw that, I thought it had to be a misprint on their pre-game write up. We played pretty good, but Scotty said they had 78 possessions for the game. They had 28 more possessions than we had.. They'll beat a lot of teams. Wonder how many of those steals Summit ref's would call a reaching in foul though.

Waytashek(66% FG 10-15) and Clarin (66% fg 4-6) ,pretty much our offense for the second game in a row, + Stuart with 6 min for 6 pts. Ellie 3-5 for 60% fg% and 7 pts.

Mitchell 16 TO's, ouch,(handled the ball a lot?).We had 34 TO's as a team.We are not alone, they've forced 25 TO's against T A&M,22 for Tx Pan AM,39 for Bradley and 39 for NM. Wow!

This was about the worst matchup you could run into when your senior point guard is unable to play. DePaul can pressure experienced high-major point guards, and we were relying on backups (including leaning heavily on two freshmen). There's not much you can do unless you happen to catch them on an off night or your shooters get ridiculously hot.

[JACKGUYII]

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This is the same kind of match up that exploited our senior point guards weakness's. This team was not prepared for the full court press and traps.

[NoVaJack]

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Anyone got an update?

Too many turnovers is my update. WAY too many.
Tuned in to the radio broadcast start the second half and when the Jacks committed their 20th - 20th - of the game in their first possession of the half, I turned it off.
Is this not a correctable problem?

[slosho]

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This is the same kind of match up that exploited our senior point guards weakness's. This team was not prepared for the full court press and traps.

Have we ever been? Maybe against the fighting lupers? or are they the DINKbinders (I can never remember)

[boxerboy]

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I had the opportunity to attend the game Saturday evening. Living far from Brookings I do not get to see many games. Unfortunately, this was a mismatch from the start. DePaul, plays a pressure, trapping, defense, always double teaming the ball, and SDSU, could not overcome it. Maci, looked overwhelmed, and like a true, freshman, most of the night. DePaul, not only played great full court, pressure defense, but they also shot and passed the ball much more efficiently, than the Jacks. Our defense, is just not that good, and the turnovers, poor passing, and ball handling just killed us. Megan W. had a great game and nearly, single handily, carried the team. Despite, the poor performance, I gotta believe this will help them become a better team. The younger players, now know what a "good" team looks like.

[Jacks#1Fan]

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Mitchell 16 TO's, ouch,(handled the ball a lot?).We had 34 TO's as a team.We are not alone, they've forced 25 TO's against T A&M,22 for Tx Pan AM,39 for Bradley and 39 for NM. Wow!

Suspect you got the wrong person, but Macy Miller only had 5 TO's and Megan Waytashek had 5 also. It was Kerri Young that had a worse night, with 11 TO's...21 of the 34 between them. I talked to Gabby last night, and she had not been given any date yet when she might be able to get going. Suspect we will do a lot of work in practice in regards to handling a pressure defense, as opponents are sure to pick up on our problems there. Having said that, DePaul has been destroying teams through pressure defense, so we are not the only team to have had that problem with them.

[Captain Jack]

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Spoke to someone at the game and they basically said that Waytashek carried the team. You mention the turnovers. Waytashek had 5 in 35 minutes and she was actually bringing the ball up the court as the Maci had 5 in 20 minutes and Kerri 11 in 21 minutes... they were struggling. Clarin had a good game in 15 minutes of play but to often there was a turnover before we could get the ball down to her. I've said this before.... we have some good young players but i think there should be more focus on running the offense through the seniors.

Suspect you got the wrong person, but Macy Miller only had 5 TO's and Megan Waytashek had 5 also. It was Kerri Young that had a worse night, with 11 TO's...21 of the 34 between them. I talked to Gabby last night, and she had not been given any date yet when she might be able to get going. Suspect we will do a lot of work in practice in regards to handling a pressure defense, as opponents are sure to pick up on our problems there. Having said that, DePaul has been destroying teams through pressure defense, so we are not the only team to have had that problem with them.

[jackdaniel]

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Suspect you got the wrong person, but Macy Miller only had 5 TO's and Megan Waytashek had 5 also. It was Kerri Young that had a worse night, with 11 TO's...21 of the 34 between them. I talked to Gabby last night, and she had not been given any date yet when she might be able to get going. Suspect we will do a lot of work in practice in regards to handling a pressure defense, as opponents are sure to pick up on our problems there. Having said that, DePaul has been destroying teams through pressure defense, so we are not the only team to have had that problem with them.

DePaul is a ranked team causing everyone they've played so far fits keeping care of the ball with their pressure defense, so not too surprised we had problems, especially with young, fresh out of HS point guards, as well as the rest of the team. Much more troubling is looking discomposed against a struggling SHSU. I think it's all mental, we should get over it quickly after a few games of moving the ball crisply and finding the open player. Season's young yet, and we haven't even began to use all the talent that we have. I'm hoping the best is yet to come.

[boxerboy]

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There's never any excuse for that many turnovers. I wanted to see Miller play, especially after all I've read about her, she still needs some "seasoning."

[jacks1]

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There's never any excuse for that many turnovers. I wanted to see Miller play, especially after all I've read about her, she still needs some "seasoning."

Of course she needs seasoning. She's a true freshman being thrust into the starting PG role due to injury. If she stays healthy, she'll be the best to ever lace them up at SDSU.

[mitchellrabbit]

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There's never any excuse for that many turnovers. I wanted to see Miller play, especially after all I've read about her, she still needs some "seasoning."

Shes only a freshman, shes only played in 4 games. She'll be fine. Believe what youve read about her

[OldHare]

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Shes only a freshman, shes only played in 4 games. She'll be fine. Believe what youve read about her

Miller looks good most of the time. She is still adjusting to the game. Too many people think she was coming into the lineup without a problem, but she is seeing players that are as good or better than she might be right now. Many also discounted the value of an experienced senior who can be a ball handler and a very steady defensive player. When we are able to watch both of these players in the same game, the Jackrabbits will step up the game a bunch. Gabby will be a valuable asset to have this season even though she may not have the ceiling that Miller possesses for the long term. Gabby will rank high in the career steal column with her short season included which means she ranks very high in the defensive career category. That is a mark most point guards would accept.