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  • #31
    Re: 2013 - 2014 schedule

    Originally posted by bigticket1 View Post
    It's not realistic to multiply Stuart's production in mostly mop-up minutes and compare them to Eide's against the opponents best players. And Walters needs to find her three point shot back - her % was way down from her freshman year. If she can,that will really help take some pressure off of Waytashek.
    I agree,but I think some players will surprise a lot of us,that's what I'm hoping.I can see a bunch of potential in a lot of our players who just might step it up a notch this year.I hope they all make each other look good.
    Last edited by jackdaniel; 10-25-2013, 09:53 PM.

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    • #32
      Re: 2013 - 2014 schedule

      Originally posted by bigticket1 View Post
      It's not realistic to multiply Stuart's production in mostly mop-up minutes and compare them to Eide's against the opponents best players. And Walters needs to find her three point shot back - her % was way down from her freshman year. If she can,that will really help take some pressure off of Waytashek.
      Paluch,Strop,Boever,Heiser,Cornemann (she's getting better all the time),Hart ?(she didn't play much last yr)can all hit three's too.But yea,if Walters can hit like i know she can,that would be awesome.The freshman can help too,when they get their chances.

      In the "GETTING STARTED" vid done up by Nord for the pre-season,Megan Stuart hit a couple 3 ptrs,pretty shot,didn't know she could hit from long range like that,we've had good post players who could shoot three's, the last was Sunnerborg.Just another weapon for us,another concern for the opposition.
      Last edited by jackdaniel; 10-26-2013, 11:23 PM. Reason: Megan Stuart,added comments

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      • #33
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        Mariah has the tools and energy to be an impact player at both ends. last year she rushed too many close in shots. If she can get those shots under control, Katie's points will be found easily. 5 juniors and 3 seniors should be experienced enough to lead this group which also brings in talented underclass players. tomorrow should be fun.
        Best to remember these are kids and they are doing everything they can to entertain us, be scholars, and all in all be great humans. Jackedforlife

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        • #34
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          Last year we relied on very young PG's. Now their experience should start to pay off, which could make everyone else better. This should be one of the best teams yet if they stay healthy.


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          • #35
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            The women play BYU on Friday. The Cougars are picked 4th in their conference behind Gonzaga, San Diego, and St Mary. The player of interest is a 6' 7" woman preseason all conference pick who plays the post for the Cougars. She shot over 70% in the exhibition games and was something like 10-11 at the free throw line. There are others who have experience on the team, but this gal seems to be the feature of the team. The coach was also complaining abut how close the refs were calling early games. This should be a good game for the Jackrabbits to open on the road. The Cougars went 23-11 last year. They lost 4 OOC games which include Creighton(Jackrabbits played in Frost) and Washington St(Jackrabbits played in Minneapolis) They lost 3 times to Gonzaga and 2 times to St Mary and 2 times to Loyola who are all conference foes. it appears they lost one starter.
            Best to remember these are kids and they are doing everything they can to entertain us, be scholars, and all in all be great humans. Jackedforlife

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            • #36
              Re: 2013 - 2014 schedule

              Originally posted by OldHare View Post
              The women play BYU on Friday. The Cougars are picked 4th in their conference behind Gonzaga, San Diego, and St Mary. The player of interest is a 6' 7" woman preseason all conference pick who plays the post for the Cougars. She shot over 70% in the exhibition games and was something like 10-11 at the free throw line. There are others who have experience on the team, but this gal seems to be the feature of the team. The coach was also complaining abut how close the refs were calling early games. This should be a good game for the Jackrabbits to open on the road. The Cougars went 23-11 last year. They lost 4 OOC games which include Creighton(Jackrabbits played in Frost) and Washington St(Jackrabbits played in Minneapolis) They lost 3 times to Gonzaga and 2 times to St Mary and 2 times to Loyola who are all conference foes. it appears they lost one starter.
              Makes sense,when a post player is so much of your offense,you want to lobby to give her freedom to shoot and you want her at the FT line if she can hit 10-11.

              We'll have a lot of games in the OOC schedule where they'll have taller players than we do in the post.Speed,agility,quickness,good passing,good outside shooting can overcome having a little less height.
              Last edited by jackdaniel; 11-06-2013, 12:45 PM.

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              • #37
                Re: 2013 - 2014 schedule

                #3 Stanford is playing #1 UConn on espn2 right now. You can get an early look at what the Jacks have to go against in a couple weeks.

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                • #38
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                  Thanks for the notice....just turned it on.

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                  • #39
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                    Well,the OOC part of the 2013-2014 season is finished.We go 9-7,not bad,even though some of the losses were ugly.That's what I'd like to discuss,if people can get their mood up for some discussion after our last game.Here goes,we basically won at home and lost on the road.Why?

                    Obvious answer,our road losses were to more athletic teams,but then why our wins agaist Penn State,TCU,GT ,CMU,and W/GB,our best wins.OK,not exactly Stanford or ND,but good teams,and why were just about all our losses accompanied by large TO margins?Got me to thinking is there some correlation there?

                    Here comes my theory,I think it relates to the motion offense and how well the team can shoot 3 ptrs,either on the road or at home.My conclusion is that we shoot better at home,and therefore turn the ball over less.We actually forced Penn State into committing 20 TOs,while we had 14.One exception TCU,ugly game,we shot bad but they shot even worse.Stanford and FGCU,we shot well, but they both shot better,and their quickness bothered us,i think FGCU we should have played a better game,because i think we can beat them if we played better.But,we didn't.BYU was Hamson,we made 11 of our made 16 shots for the game were 3 ptrs.

                    The elite teams have taller,not much, but taller and quicker reacting players,that causes a lot of turnovers.We can overcome a lot of this at home ,because we shoot the ball well there,spread them out a little thinner down low for some scoring in the paint to take a little pressure off the perimeter shooters.It's like dominos,get one thing going ,it gets another,and another,etc.

                    To back up this theory a little,enter the 2008-2009 team.They were the best 3 pt shooting team to wear the SDSU uniform in our brief Div 1 history, went 32-3,shot 36% from the 3 pt line as a team, hitting 291 out of 811 shots taken.These stats are for the season,so both road and away games.Most consistent three point shooting team,and the one that made the motion offense the best we've ever had.Some of those names,Warkenthein .359,Muck .379,Oistad .376,Jill 46%,Anderson .348,Rotert .323,Ketty .323,Macy Michelson .286.Sunnerborg was on the team,but not shooting three's at that time.When you can assemble a team of three point shooters like that, and have capable inside players to boot,then yea, the motion offense works like a charm.You can't hit three's...not so well.

                    Oh,the TO's?When you spread the floor,you have more room to make better passes,especially against quicker reacting players, that creates less TO's.

                    To sum up....sometimes we are a motion offense team that can't hit three's and it can get ugly when that happens.
                    And we aren't tall enough to shoot over anyone in the paint yet,so we can't get points there either,besides it's too clogged up anyway.To me,the motion offense has to have the 3 pt shot play a significant factor, or it fails.

                    In fairness to our current team,we've got shooters,so far this yr,Paluch.444,Waytashek .357,Stuart .500,Heiser .409,Cornemann .368,Walters .324,then it drops off.

                    They really get on the good shooters like Paluch,have to have two at least,maybe three or better four good shooters on the floor to alleviate that problem.

                    We have shooters,but better at home,not so consistent,not as many.One other thing,it just may be that teams are defending the 3 pt line a lot better nowdays,but that would be bad for the motion offense too.Just a thought.
                    Last edited by jackdaniel; 01-04-2014, 01:14 PM.

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                    • #40
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                      http://terryvandrovec.tumblr.com/pos...tball-notebook

                      Terry in his blog today had a comment that the nine OOC wins by the women is 3rd most since 2007-2008. I wouldn't have guessed they had done that well. That's probably because of the number of blowout losses that put a bad taste in my mouth.

                      Still think that the schedule was a little too tough this year, but overall a good job by the ladies.

                      Now on to the conference season and start getting ready for a 6-peat.

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                      • #41
                        Re: 2013 - 2014 schedule

                        Originally posted by MontanaRabbit View Post
                        http://terryvandrovec.tumblr.com/pos...tball-notebook

                        Terry in his blog today had a comment that the nine OOC wins by the women is 3rd most since 2007-2008. I wouldn't have guessed they had done that well. That's probably because of the number of blowout losses that put a bad taste in my mouth.

                        Still think that the schedule was a little too tough this year, but overall a good job by the ladies.

                        Now on to the conference season and start getting ready for a 6-peat.
                        I'm almost positive I have a post on here somewhere saying OOC is so tough this year, I'll be happy with anything over .500.

                        They did it. That grind will only help come conference time.

                        I only see a couple possible conf. losses. IUPUI and maybe, maybe USD.
                        "Life is short so make sure you spend as much time as possible arguing with strangers on the Internet." - Person

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                        • #42
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                          Originally posted by RowdyRabbit View Post
                          I'm almost positive I have a post on here somewhere saying OOC is so tough this year, I'll be happy with anything over .500.

                          They did it. That grind will only help come conference time.

                          I only see a couple possible conf. losses. IUPUI and maybe, maybe USD.
                          That's great if the only goal is to win conference. I'm selfish and want a run in the NCAA tourney (That's where we will truly get exposure!). That's gonna be tough because I don't see us getting anything better than a 14 seed, even if we run the table in conference.

                          Too many games where we haven't even been in the game. Stanford, Notre Dame, MTSU, ULAR, BYU, and Florida Gulf Coast. Those are all tough opponents, but when the committee is looking at seeding they will look at games against other tourney teams (which they might all be NCAA tourney participants). When they look at our performance against these teams we won't get much respect.

                          A couple more cupcake games wouldn't have hurt.

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                          • #43
                            Re: 2013 - 2014 schedule

                            Originally posted by MontanaRabbit View Post
                            http://terryvandrovec.tumblr.com/pos...tball-notebook

                            Terry in his blog today had a comment that the nine OOC wins by the women is 3rd most since 2007-2008. I wouldn't have guessed they had done that well. That's probably because of the number of blowout losses that put a bad taste in my mouth.

                            Still think that the schedule was a little too tough this year, but overall a good job by the ladies.

                            Now on to the conference season and start getting ready for a 6-peat.
                            Even though the record isn't much over .500 , the Jacks still had the chance to get to 9 wins because we are playing four more non-conference games than in the past. That is because there are now only 14 conference games as opposed to 18 in past years.

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                            • #44
                              Re: 2013 - 2014 schedule

                              Originally posted by bigticket1 View Post
                              Even though the record isn't much over .500 , the Jacks still had the chance to get to 9 wins because we are playing four more non-conference games than in the past. That is because there are now only 14 conference games as opposed to 18 in past years.
                              I didn't realize that. So Terry isn't exactly comparing apples to apples.

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                              • #45
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                                I think that we are not elevating some of the wins for the women this year. Georgetown, Penn St., Green Bay, TCU, Central Michigan, and Northern Illinois are among the 9 wins. It is disappointing to lose some games in a lopsided fashion. Kansas(9-4) men lost to San Diego St(12-1) at home yesterday. (Will the Jayhawks not schedule them again?) Undefeated is hard to accomplish in basketball. I would prefer a game lost to Stanford or Notre Dame than to SW Minn St. or even a lopsided victory over SW Minn St. It does not seem being beat by Top 10 teams hurts your seeding more than a victory over a D2 team. I think the tough OOC schedule is more benefit than handicap.
                                Best to remember these are kids and they are doing everything they can to entertain us, be scholars, and all in all be great humans. Jackedforlife

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