WNIT

[1stRowFANatic]

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Was anybody on the Forum at Skelly's for Johnston's appearance?  Or, does anybody have information about it?

Just saw this, and yes I was there, but don't really recall anything other than what has been said. Teams put in bids for each round, then when the pairings are announced, whichever team has the highest bid gets the game. Its all about the $$$.

[mitchellrabbit]

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Host NIT teams must be able to demonstate that they can get a good crowd to show up.  I am a University of San Francisco mens season ticket holder. USF had to give the NIT a guaranteed $60k in order to host a first round game a couple of years ago.

we drew over 4000 for the ndsu game, if the jacks host a WNIT game, dont you think we could draw over 5000, maybe 6000? 6000 at what? do the students get in with their student ID's? or will they have to pay? ticket prices will be $1.00 more than the regular season prices for the first 4 rounds.

[thebluehatman]

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Students will have to pay for tickets... And I believe they will be able to buy their tickets at the Union to ease the traffic in the HPER center. At least that's what the discussion was last week led to.

[mitchellrabbit]

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Students will have to pay for tickets... And I believe they will be able to buy their tickets at the Union to ease the traffic in the HPER center.  At least that's what the discussion was last week led to.

so what will the price be for students? that could hurt attendance.

[thebluehatman]

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[quote author=thebluehatman link=1171337217/45#47 date=1173314566]Students will have to pay for tickets... And I believe they will be able to buy their tickets at the Union to ease the traffic in the HPER center.  At least that's what the discussion was last week led to.

so what will the price be for students?  that could hurt attendance. [/quote]
Well...

[quote author=jacksfanaddict link=1172470906/15#18 date=1172698023]is there a possibility of a "fan bus" going for the students of SDSU?!?!?!

I would say lets pack the Back of the Bus Gang's bus first before trying to get another bus. Dave and Shar have put these together before. Instead of traveling seperately I would say we all should try to travel as a group. Granted staying in a hotel isn't cheap but it would definately be cost effective to students. A strickly student bus would be expensive and possibly hard to fill, note the NDSU bus trip both buses were not full. I do know student tickets for any games will be affordable, but cannot disclose prices.[/quote]
under 10

[NightHawk78]

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Are ticket prices consistent across the bracket or do they vary from school-to-school and round-to-round?

[2002jack]

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[quote author=thebluehatman link=1171337217/45#47 date=1173314566]Students will have to pay for tickets... And I believe they will be able to buy their tickets at the Union to ease the traffic in the HPER center.  At least that's what the discussion was last week led to.

so what will the price be for students?  that could hurt attendance. [/quote]


Students had to pay for Regional tickets back in the DII era, it never hurt attendance.  They were nothing too expensive.

[filbert]

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[quote author=mitchellrabbit link=1171337217/45#48 date=1173315622][quote author=thebluehatman link=1171337217/45#47 date=1173314566]Students will have to pay for tickets... And I believe they will be able to buy their tickets at the Union to ease the traffic in the HPER center. At least that's what the discussion was last week led to.

so what will the price be for students? that could hurt attendance. [/quote]


Students had to pay for Regional tickets back in the DII era, it never hurt attendance. They were nothing too expensive.[/quote]

I believe that was the usual situation for post-season tournaments hosted by SDSU . . . students had to pay. As 2002jack notes, it didn't seem to hurt attendance at all. I remember a certain game against Cal State Hayward that brought over 9,000 to Frost. I think my ears are STILL ringing from that one . . .

[jackmd]

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I'd like another shot a these gals.

Lady Indians Deserve Post Season Bid
Posted by Lee on March 06th 2007 to Women's Basketball

It has lost some of its mystic. Twenty wins just doesn’t mean as much as it used to. With schedules and conference tournaments, lots of teams will win 20 games. Even with post season tournament fields expanded, some of those teams my not get invited to play in the post season. Arkansas State University will not be one of those teams.


The victory over Western Kentucky Saturday night assured the Lady Indians of a post season bid in the WNIT. Their 71 RPI ranking and 69 strength of schedule, coupled with the Sun Belt Conferences #9 RPI ranking, might even get them a passing mention as an NCAA bubble team.


In this “what have you done for me lately” world of late season play, they have posted a 6-4 record. There are no recent injuries to catch the attention of a tournament selection committee, and they have notched several quality wins.


South Dakota State, a team that finished 21-5 and post a 55 RPI, was handled with ease early in the season. This is a South Dakota State team that beat Middle Tennessee State, Virginia, Southern California, Kansas, Colorado, Minnesota, Alabama, and Southern Illinois...... (read more)

http://www.arkst.com/?p=55

[rabidrabbit]

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From WNIT discussions a year ago - FILBERT's research comments in Mar '06.
You know, I haven't looked at the RPI vs. the other rankings. At the end I was using the http://www.vaporia.com/sports/wcpage.html average of all of the ratings. That had four teams which should have been in the NCAA that weren't (and therefore four which by rating shouldn't have been in the field that were in the NCAA).

Using that information and the worst ratings info (Official : NCAA Ratings), the Jacks are still the 11th best RPI team possible. A lot of very good teams (Montana, Hartford, 1 of 3 A-10's (JMU, Del or ODU), + only 3 Big 10, 5 B-12, 5 ACC, 6 Big East, and Sunbelt, MWC, & MAC get to NCAA's.

Right now, I'd say that of our 5 losses (Baylor, Ark St., Marquette, Missouri, WKU) Ark. St. appears to be the shakiest to make a playoff spot, as they were the 6th seeded Sunbelt team. WKU was the 3rd seeded team in the Sunbelt. Per the article above, the Ark St. people believe they are going to get a WNIT berth.

[Monte-Jackrabbit]

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Sound like Arkansas State thinks their RPI should be not only higher than ours, but they must think they deserve to be in before us. Based on 1 game (which I believe was in December) is REDICULOUS!!!!!

They want to prove their better than us, come up to Frost. We'll see if we were all that easy or just caught on the wrong night. I am going to go with the latter.

[filbert]

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Sound like Arkansas State thinks their RPI should be not only higher than ours, but they must think they deserve to be in before us. Based on 1 game (which I believe was in December) is REDICULOUS!!!!!

They want to prove their better than us, come up to Frost. We'll see if we were all that easy or just caught on the wrong night. I am going to go with the latter.

All I have to say about Arkansas State is that I think they were our only "bad loss" this year.

And it's not usually a complement when an opponent refers to you as a "bad loss."

/shoulda been in smack

/I'm sure MTSU thinks their loss to us was a "bad loss" too, so what goes around comes around.

/OK, Minnesota's got a reason to say that their loss to us was a "bad loss."

/You see the slippery slope this gets on?

[Monte-Jackrabbit]

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Total agreement with you filbert.

Early season road games are tough to tell, especially with a team that might not have totally found their identity yet. (Not that we hadn't, just all programs go through a little stretch were nothing goes right. Ours was only one game or so.)

Minnesota does have an argument about the "bad loss"

[rabidrabbit]

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[quote author=Monte-Jackrabbit link=1171337217/45#55 date=1173391768]Sound like Arkansas State thinks their RPI should be not only higher than ours, but they must think they deserve to be in before us.  Based on 1 game (which I believe was in December)  is REDICULOUS!!!!!

They want to prove their better than us, come up to Frost.  We'll see if we were all that easy or just caught on the wrong night.  I am going to go with the latter.

All I have to say about Arkansas State is that I think they were our only "bad loss" this year.

And it's not usually a complement when an opponent refers to you as a "bad loss."  

/shoulda been in smack

/I'm sure MTSU thinks their loss to us was a "bad loss" too, so what goes around comes around.

/OK, Minnesota's got a reason to say that their loss to us was a "bad loss."

/You see the slippery slope this gets on?[/quote]

Ark St WAS our only "Bad loss". Four days after getting back from the Bahamas, where we played great vs. UVA, and learned that we have a ways to go to win it all at D-I vs. Baylor. Then we go to their house and play flat. Yes, that's the game that shouldn't have gotten away.

Per the WNIT rules, ASU would be about the 5th choice for play-offs from the Sunbelt, as they were the 6th seed. According to Creme @ ESPN, only Middle TN St. is likely to dance, with WKU being a lead bubble team. But LA-Lafayette was the #2 seed, and therefore would be the WNIT auto.

Ark. St. is a WNIT bubble team.

[thebluehatman]

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http://www.womensnit.com/

Several automatic berths in this year's Postseason WNIT have already been filled by teams that won't be included in the NCAA Tournament. As conference tournaments come to a close, some of the WNIT spots have been decided by teams that finished first or second in their conference during the regular season. Here are the teams that are guaranteed one of 31 automatic berths in the WNIT, as of Thursday, March 8:

Big South: High Point
Conference USA: Tulane, if no NCAA at-large berth
Ivy: Dartmouth
Metro Atlantic: Iona
Mid-Continent: Oakland
Northeast: Long Island
Ohio Valley: Murray State
Patriot: Bucknell
Southern: Western Carolina
West Coast: San Diego

10 Spots Claimed 38 to go.