2006 Recruits

[Rabbitlivinginverm]

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They are indicating over on Bisonville that Michael Tveidt has verballed to NDSU over Wisconsin Milwaukee. I guess we will see Tveidt in Frost at least once a year. It will be interesting to see who develops into the better college player Cordova or Tveidt.  

I certainly hope not...NDSU, coming into our backyard, tipping over the trash cans, breaking into the garage and stealing our Porsche?

[JACKGUYII]

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That Porsche was hoping to get some big time offers that apparently never came. I think we have our own potential Porsche's in Cordova and Bassett!

[hoops_guy]

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It's true... Tviedt is going to wear the Green and Gold!!!

[ballz]

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Before anybody freaks out, remember that if we had got Tviedt, Cordova would likely have committed to NDSU. Nagy went for the more athletic of the two players. I guess we'll see this winter which player has a better season, but I think we got two steals with Cordova and Basset. I know I wouldn't want to give Basset up for Tviedt, and I think there was a relative draw between Tviedt and Cordova, but Cordova has more potential, even though he might not be as good right now.

[jackrabbit1979]

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As much as i like our two verbals, i am really dissapointed about not getting Twiedt. Even more so now that he verballed to the Bison. i don't really understand how we didn't have a schollie for him. i also don't understand why he chose NDSU for Bball if he was getting offers from WMilw and others. For christ's sake there are more posts about him going to NDSU on our fan board than there are on the Bison's board...and for all we know we hadn't been recruiting him for the past five months. Shows where basketball rates in Fargo. ???

[SDSUFAN]

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As much as i like our two verbals, i am really dissapointed about not getting Twiedt.  Even more so now that he verballed to the Bison.  i don't really understand how we didn't have a schollie for him.  i also don't understand why he chose NDSU for Bball if he was getting offers from WMilw and others.  For christ's sake there are more posts about him going to NDSU on our fan board than there are on the Bison's board...and for all we know we hadn't been recruiting him for the past five months.  Shows where basketball rates in Fargo.  ???

If there is one aspect of South Dakota Fan opinion that  that I personally detest, whether they follow SDSU or not, its this redundant question:
Why did SDSU not recruit so and so...........BLAH BLAH Blah!!! SO AND SO CAN DO THIS AND HE CAN DO THAT..... What happen???? Where was SDSU????????????

The answers to these questions are never easy even for Coach Nagy to give.  For whatever reason Twedt  apparently is not coming to SDSU.  I know I can live with it because I trust the recruiting judgement of Nagy/Larson.  They know what they are doing.

Also we have to remember Tim Miles, is South Dakota connected being a native of Doland. He is a dynamic person and all you have to find that out is to listen to him on WDAY in Fargo. He is a great guy who wants to win as much as Scott Nagy. Surprising they are very good friends. Miles's Charisma could be a factor in Mr Twedt's choice. Who knows????????.

Then too, some times the athletes  have made their choice plain and simple.  Why should we blame our coaching staff for an athletes choice that does not include SDSU?  I suspect whatever was offered to Mr. Twedt was on board and according to the rules. I see no reason to break rules just to please some " know it all sports fan" who reads the Argus daily and becomes an expert.
There I am done. :-X

[Jacks02]

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I read on the Bisonville Board that his older brother goes to NDSU. I have no way to confirm that, but if its the case, it could have played a role as well.

[gojacksgo]

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How are they supposed to recruit a D1 kid to walk on at SDSU?  It doesn't happen often - SDSU signed their recruits, and decided not to wait on Tviedt.(He also had an offer, but when Cordova signed, they didn't have the offer anymore) They did not have a scholarship left for him, so he did not get recruited since Cordova had signed.  Makes sense to me - If you don't have scholarships, you can't really lure someone to come to your school when there are other good offers for the athlete.

I wish they did have an extra scholarship so they could have been in the running.  It would have been interesting to see what would have come of it.  

[RonRabbit]

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I agree completely with SDSUFAN.

I trust Coach Nagy completely...can anyone legitimately question any of his recruiting moves since he arrived at State? (Go get your head examined if you think you know even half as much about basketball, spotting and developing talent etc.)

I like the Tweidt kid but what the heck do I know. I really like the Cordova kid.

[ballz]

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A little background on Tveidt...

-he is an accomplihed high jumper, having gone 6'5'', and that tells you a lot about athleticism,

-All-State in football as a TE as a JR, moved to QB this year

-easily the best college prospect in South Dakota as evidenced by who offerred him and his all-around package, some might argue Cordova but it isn't even close. Cordova is as raw as they come and has no real offensive ability right now, not to mention there is almost 0% chance that he will be playing for SDSU next year and instead at probably Iowa Western, some MAJOR eligibility issues that in all likelihood will not work themselves out before next August. Tveidt can play the 3 or 4 and has an outside shot to go with his athleticism.

This was on Bisonville, posted by D. Anybody know anything? I'm going to be pissed if we are holding a scholarship out for a none eligible player. At the same time though, it seems like October of a year early is a little soon to be declaring someone ineligible. D also seems to have an NDSU bias for basketball, even though I think he is a Sioux Fan.

[SDSUFAN]

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This was on Bisonville, posted by D.  Anybody know anything?  I'm going to be pissed if we are holding a scholarship out for a none eligible player.  At the same time though, it seems like October of a year early is a little soon to be declaring someone ineligible.  D also seems to have an NDSU bias for basketball, even though I think he is a Sioux Fan.

You are very correct about D who ever this guy. If Cordova has eligiblity issues, I am sure the entire athletic department knows about this whole thing.

[OK_Jackrabbit]

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At the same time though, it seems like October of a year early is a little soon to be declaring someone ineligible.

Exactly. Let's allow the kid to finish high school before we're worried about his college eligibility. For all any of us know, he's an honor student.

[Alumguy]

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There aren't many things I like about getting older. But one thing age has taught me is perspective. I've watched and listened to enough speculation about college recruits to hold me for three lifetimes. There have been many times when a "can't miss" athlete has signed with another program and fans wonder what our coaches have done wrong. Some of those athletes do have good careers. Others fall into obscurity.

Recruitment is a crap shoot. I do feel sorry for coaches when they know the decisions of 17 and 18 year old kids will directly impact their lives and the lives of their families.

What other profession has 7,000 to 10,000 people looking over their shoulders and second guessing every decision they make?

Coaches spend so much of their lives on the road in small gynasiums or other athletic arenas. They go to these places trying to demonstrate their love for prospective athletes. They kiss up to kids, moms and dads, then get back in their cars hoping they said the right things. Then there are letters, countless phone calls, and time away from their own families.

I've watched coaches break down and cry when a good high school athlete signs with another school. They realize not only have they lost a good prospect, but they feel they let the school down, thus giving the appearance they aren't getting the job done.

It's a tough life, played out in a fish bowl.

[OK_Jackrabbit]

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There aren't many things I like about getting older.  But one thing age has taught me is perspective.  I've watched and listened to enough speculation about college recruits to hold me for three lifetimes.  There have been many times when a "can't miss" athlete has signed with another program and fans wonder what our coaches have done wrong.  Some of those athletes do have good careers.  Others fall into obscurity.

Recruitment is a crap shoot.  I do feel sorry for coaches when they know the decisions of 17 and 18 year old kids will directly impact their lives and the lives of their families.  

What other profession has 7,000 to 10,000 people looking over their shoulders and second guessing every decision they make?

Coaches spend so much of their lives on the road in small gynasiums or other athletic arenas.  They go to these places trying to demonstrate their love for prospective athletes.  They kiss up to kids, moms and dads, then get back in their cars hoping they said the right things.  Then there are letters, countless phone calls, and time away from their own families.

I've watched coaches break down and cry when a good high school athlete signs with another school.  They realize not only have they lost a good prospect, but they feel they let the school down, thus giving the appearance they aren't getting the job done.

It's a tough life, played out in a fish bowl.  

And there is really no way to know what kinds of players these kids will be. Who would have thought that Mark Tetzlaff would be what he became? Who knew what kind of player Matt Jones would be in college. I think as a fan the safest bet is to cheer for the players who are in uniform for the games and trust your coaches to bring in the right kids. It's not a science. At the best universities, 30 to 40 percent of the kids in the general population who show up as freshman don't graduate. Student athletes generally do better than that.

[MilwaukeeJacksAlum]

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I have heard several opinions on both Cordova and Tveidt, many of them involved very personally with both kids including good old uncle Bob who coaches Cordova in college. This kid is the type of player that everyone says "where the hell did he come from" when he's scoring 18 a game as a junior and senior. He is a kid who had barely played organized basketball when he first arrived in Sioux Falls. Now, he's being recruited by and signing with D1 schools. That's pretty impressive.

I'm not going to write anything negative about Tveidt because I don't know him and have never seen him play and it's stupid to put another athlete down because he signed somewhere else (not insinuating that anyone has done that on this board). Just know that there are many, many people who spend every day of their life working in the basketball profession who feel Cordova is going to be heads and tails above Tveidt when all is said and done. Whether that comes to fruition is the magic question that no one knows until it plays out.