NDSU game thread

[mitchellrabbit]

Re: NSDU game thread

or a loss to Centenary, now that would be embarrassing

IUPUI is leading Centenary by just 4 at the half. I wouldnt mind seeing IUPUI getting embarrassed today.

[NoVaJack]

Re: NDSU game thread

Would that be the same Preston Evans (and his classmates) who have never beaten Jacks in football? Maybe that explains their enthusiasm.
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kerblastification on a Pattonesque scale.

[tjbison]

Re: NSDU game thread

IUPUI is leading Centenary by just 4 at the half. I wouldnt mind seeing IUPUI getting embarrassed today.

Touche!!

[Chains]

Re: NDSU game thread

Would that be the same Preston Evans (and his classmates) who have never beaten Jacks in football? Maybe that explains their enthusiasm.

Now, regarding all the negativity about the Jacks' effort Friday night in basketball. Watching the second half was frustrating but not embarassing. Calling the performance embarassing is too harsh. The Jacks are an improved basketball team, but they don't have a big margin for error, like great teams have. The Bison probably played as well as they could. The Jacks didn't.

That's more than a zing! If I heard it once I heard it a dozen times - some of these Jackrabbit basketball players have never beat'n the Bison. First their career is not over. This class seniors will have at minimum one more opportunity.

Good one on the football post Jacked_up

GBGBGJ

[Chains]

Re: NDSU game thread

on calling TO's, Nagy probably thought this game was going to go down to the wire and maybe wanted to save the timeouts for the last few minutes when he thought the game would come down to last second strategy with the last shot counting. he knew a timeout was coming that one time so why not save one. like a pro football coach waiting for the two minute warning.

Got to disagree Sturgis. Absolutely needed to take a time out after turning the ball over on our first two possesions to start the second half. Once the Bison got within 2, our turnovers and lack of rebounding ----------- time out baby. That was a frustrating 4 minutes or so in that game. If you took a pole I would venture to suggest that 90% of those poled would have taken a time out.

GBGBGJ

[bub94]

Re: NDSU game thread

Got to disagree Sturgis. Absolutely needed to take a time out after turning the ball over on our first two possesions to start the second half. Once the Bison got within 2, our turnovers and lack of rebounding ----------- time out baby. That was a frustrating 4 minutes or so in that game. If you took a pole I would venture to suggest that 90% of those poled would have taken a time out.

GBGBGJ

I do think they needed a little butt chewing after the start of the second half. Yes, we needed to try to get them tired, but you have to stop the momentum there.

Read TV's write-up in the Argus today. Even the NDSU player was quoted as saying AC fell asleep guarding him on the easy basket (I'm sure he was talking about the one where the NDSU player started to go across the lane but turned back around while AC kept going to where he thought the player was headed). Gotta keep the mind lapses down to a minimum.

[TeaJackrabbit]

Re: NDSU game thread

on calling TO's, Nagy probably thought this game was going to go down to the wire and maybe wanted to save the timeouts for the last few minutes when he thought the game would come down to last second strategy with the last shot counting. he knew a timeout was coming that one time so why not save one. like a pro football coach waiting for the two minute warning.

Nagy has said in the past that he doesn't like to call timeouts at all. I've actually heard him say he needs to be better at calling them more.

[TeaJackrabbit]

Re: NDSU game thread

Would that be the same Preston Evans (and his classmates) who have never beaten Jacks in football? Maybe that explains their enthusiasm.
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Preston Evans - living vicariously through Bison Basketball since 2007.

[zooropa]

Re: NDSU game thread

Got to disagree Sturgis. Absolutely needed to take a time out after turning the ball over on our first two possesions to start the second half. Once the Bison got within 2, our turnovers and lack of rebounding ----------- time out baby. That was a frustrating 4 minutes or so in that game. If you took a pole I would venture to suggest that 90% of those poled would have taken a time out.

GBGBGJ

I agree with calling the TO after Cordova got absolutely torched on that play where Susenguth or whoever scored behind him while he was crouched over intently staring up court. You -have- to call a TO when something like that happens.

But calling a TO when the Bison started that run and the Jacks were more high strung than a five dollar banjo----sorry. Yeah, I told the TV set that Nagy needed to call a TO, but on reflection, Nagy made the right call.

You have senior leadership on the floor (Callahan and Williams) you tell the kids in the locker room that the Bison are going to come out pushing. You tell them that the Bison are not going to rollover.

And when they play that tight, calling a TO and yelling at them won't work, and calling a TO and setting up a play won't work because (duh) they're all tight and they'll botch a set play as quickly as they botch anything else.

Maybe he could've made some substitutions, but we don't know quite the situation on the bench either. I mean if AC's on the bench because he's been napping, Engen is playing scared and Fiegen's about to toss his cookies, what do you do?

[zooropa]

Re: NDSU game thread

And I'm a believer in 'learn by doing'; if Nagy calls a TO in the middle of runs like that, he'll always have to do that.

If, on the other hand, he takes the long view (not even halfway through the conference season, etc.) and says, 'the kids need to figure out how to fight their way through this', then he's giving them an opportunity to develop as players.

And, ultimately, the season won't hinge on that run. It never does. Even when people say that it does, it doesn't.

[joeboo22]

Re: NDSU game thread

Every coach has their own calling TO regiment.... I've talked to kids who have played for Coach Cutler at Platte and he would call timeouts when his team would go on a run... his point was if you look at evenly matched teams, when one team goes on a run the other team usually follows with a run.... I don't like calling timeouts when you have just given up a big run unless you need to get different personal on the floor....