2010 Recruits

[Kemo]

Re: 2010 Recruits

I'm sorry, you're wrong. I get sick and tired of people who think we won't be able to win without players from large cities. I'm not saying we shouldn't recruit cities, but I am saying we should recruit the best available players who we actually have a chance at getting and who want to come to Brookings.

Kai came from Canada and he is a top 5 scorer and rebounder in school history. Garrett played at a small school in Illinois?

I don't care if a kid comes from Reliance, if he can play ball, he can play ball. And if he can play well enough and perform in the classroom, I'll be glad to welcome him onto the Jackrabbits basketball team.

In today's day and age of summer tournaments, rural kids who can play have every advantage of city kids. City kids used to have the advantage because they could play pickup ball all summer long. Now rural kids who show talent early get on teams like the Dakota Schoolers and put in just as many hours bouncing a ball against the same competition as an inner city Chicago kid.

One more thing, for every Chris White you can name from a large city who made a big splash at SDSU, I can name you 2 washouts/average players.

^^^This

Get the best possible players for the program regardless of whether they are from the city or the farm. Talent is talent regardless of its origin.

[zooropa]

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Watching the Summit L finals men, I wondered how in the world did we ever play either team close and in some cases win?

Depth.

IUPUI plays a 6 man rotation, and Oakland plays a 7 man rotation. And the 6th & 7th guys on their respective teams -don't- play a lot of minutes.

IUPUI & Oakland play similar styles, so when they play each other, they'll look different than when they play an SDSU that plays a very different style.

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

Re: 2010 Recruits

So far we have shown we can recruit local kids and kids from small rural areas, but it's going to take more than that to be consistently in the mix for conference championships and Nagy has said that from the beginning of the move up.

I'm sorry, you're wrong. I get sick and tired of people who think we won't be able to win without players from large cities. I'm not saying we shouldn't recruit cities, but I am saying we should recruit the best available players who we actually have a chance at getting and who want to come to Brookings.

Kai came from Canada and he is a top 5 scorer and rebounder in school history. Garrett played at a small school in Illinois?

I don't care if a kid comes from Reliance, if he can play ball, he can play ball. And if he can play well enough and perform in the classroom, I'll be glad to welcome him onto the Jackrabbits basketball team.

In today's day and age of summer tournaments, rural kids who can play have every advantage of city kids. City kids used to have the advantage because they could play pickup ball all summer long. Now rural kids who show talent early get on teams like the Dakota Schoolers and put in just as many hours bouncing a ball against the same competition as an inner city Chicago kid.

One more thing, for every Chris White you can name from a large city who made a big splash at SDSU, I can name you 2 washouts/average players.

[Nidaros]

Re: 2010 Recruits

I think these two will be very good, but dominating in a 1A Championship in Iowa and dominating against the elite teams and players in the Summit League are two very different things. IUPUI, Oakland, Oral Roberts and yes even UMKC have an advantage of being in Metro areas with a lot of talent. So far we have shown we can recruit local kids and kids from small rural areas, but it's going to take more than that to be consistently in the mix for conference championships and Nagy has said that from the beginning of the move up. Problem is we are having a hard time recruiting those players. Hopefully Austin Hanson can help change that.

Watching the Summit L finals men, I wondered how in the world did we ever play either team close and in some cases win? I believe it has to be good defense that stops the flow of both offenses and they never get that flow going. I was amazed how quickly the ball got up court for both teams.

I think we will get there. One of these days a Chris White or several of them will show up. The interesting part about Chris's story is that he did not think Coach Thorson was serious when he offered a scholarship, for him to want him to come to the Dakotas and go to school and play basketball, and yet I believe Chris is still living in Sioux Falls. People especially young ones can adapt to just about any enviroment.

So if we are concerned about attracting inner city or urban players, we have to stand in line as there are quite a few bigger RPI's in line and we need to move up there to get their attention. Our day will come.

[JACKGUYII]

Re: 2010 Recruits

Yeah, so what? Those two don't have the athletic ability to really succeed in D-I, because SDSU will never be able to recruit athletes to compete with the racehorses at the top of the Summit League.

I think these two will be very good, but dominating in a 1A Championship in Iowa and dominating against the elite teams and players in the Summit League are two very different things. IUPUI, Oakland, Oral Roberts and yes even UMKC have an advantage of being in Metro areas with a lot of talent. So far we have shown we can recruit local kids and kids from small rural areas, but it's going to take more than that to be consistently in the mix for conference championships and Nagy has said that from the beginning of the move up. Problem is we are having a hard time recruiting those players. Hopefully Austin Hanson can help change that.

[Kemo]

Re: 2010 Recruits

Final Thoughts:

I watched the entire game on webcast, which is the first time I have got to see these two play beyond watching highlights. You can put me in the camp that thinks Heemstra has the most upside out of the two, and that isn't a knock on Dykstra, but rather directed towards how much potential Heemstra possesses.

Dykstra: He had a tough game shooting from the outside, but still managed to put in 21 despite this and getting double teamed every time he touched the ball (sometimes triple teamed). Moves great for his size, and might be faster than some realize due to how long his strides are. Fierce rebounder that will bring an attitude to the Jacks that we have really have lacked lately. Has the ability to step outside to shoot or drive, which will make him a tough player to guard in the Summit if he can make his defender respect his outside shot. Currently has a more polished game than Heemstra.

Heemstra: I can't say enough about this kid's vision and ability to pass the ball, I was in awe of this the entire game. If he develops his post moves he literally could be one of the toughest players to defend in the Summit, because if he can win 1v1 match ups, he'll force a double team, and he could really tear a team apart with his passing. If he can make teams respect his free throw line jumper, he could be devastating running the high/low on offense (especially with Dykstra). Just like Dykstra, moves significantly well for his size, and has the ability to defend the perimeter. Just can't say enough about this kid's potential.

Both these kids will have to get use to playing against taller/stronger/quicker players than they faced in high school, but will still be taller than most, and if they aren't taller, they sure the heck will be quicker than any big man in the Summit. Hopefully they get lots of work in this summer to speed their transition from high school to college, as they have the ability to play and be major contributors right away.

[filbert]

Re: 2010 Recruits

Here's the stats for the championship game:

http://www.iahsaa.org/basketball/201...ment/101a8.htm

Dykstra had 13 rebounds, 3 assists, Heemstra 8 and 6.

[Kemo]

Re: 2010 Recruits

As previously mentioned, Rock Valley won the state title game by a final score of 68-51.

Stat Line:
Dykstra: 21 points
Heemstra: 19 points
*didn't mention rebounds/assists on the radio broadcast, but I know Dykstra had a double - double and Heemstra might of had one too, and probably had 6 or 7 assists to go along with it.

Both players made all tournament team.

[filbert]

Re: 2010 Recruits

68-51 Rock Valley is your final.

[filbert]

Re: 2010 Recruits

Free audio for the game is here: http://www.ihssn.com/#

64-38 Rock Valley, as of right now . . .
Rebounding is 34-17 Rock Valley . . .

[filbert]

Re: 2010 Recruits

30 - 25 Rock Valley at the half of the Iowa 1A Title Game.

Dykstra - 8pts, 6 rebounds
Heemstra - 8pts, 5 rebounds, 3 assists

Yeah, so what? Those two don't have the athletic ability to really succeed in D-I, because SDSU will never be able to recruit athletes to compete with the racehorses at the top of the Summit League.

[Kemo]

Re: 2010 Recruits

30 - 25 Rock Valley at the half of the Iowa 1A Title Game.

Dykstra - 8pts, 6 rebounds
Heemstra - 8pts, 5 rebounds, 3 assists

[JamesJacks]

Re: 2010 Recruits

Thanks for sharing these. Can't wait until 2010-2011!

[JACKGUYII]

Re: 2010 Recruits

Somw great pictures of Heemstra and Dykstra. http://www.desmoinesregister.com/app...arams=Itemnr=1

[jackmd]

Re: 2010 Recruits

From the Des Moines Register:

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/art...seeded-NU-High

The Rockets (25-2) took their first lead at 31-29 on Nic Bakker’s 3-pointer with 4:27 left.

“It felt really good, kind of relief,” said Bakker, who scored a team-high 12 points. “We finally had the lead and it kind of took some of the pressure off us. It kind of went our way from that point.”

The Panthers (25-2) tied it with single free throws from Kyle Denning and Johnny Hines, but Rock Valley capped the game with its 8-0 string sparked by Nate Van Ginkel’s putback basket with 1:31 remaining.

“That’s what Gink does,” Bakker said. “He’s always around the basket. He’s not too much of a shooter, but he gets his points.”

Jordan Dykstra added 12 points and 10 rebounds for the Rockets, who will play Calamus-Wheatland or Lynnville-Sully in Friday’s 6 p.m. championship game.

Heemstra – who will join Dykstra at South Dakota State next season – had eight points and eight boards.

Rock Valley shot 16.7 percent in the first half (3-for-18), but entered the tournament averaging 74 points per game.

“It was definitely not the style of game we wanted to play, but at halftime we went in – we were shooting terrible, too – and we knew that we’d have to win this game on our defense,” Heemstra said.