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As i said in the other thread where i brought this up, maybe this has been done before??? i am guessing in some form it has, and there are so many ways to go with this topic it is hard to go in one direction. maybe somebody will want to break this down into separate threads, but i am curious what people thoughts about all time players and teams??? i will take an opening shot at this but i reserve the right to make changes upon further review. i have not given this lots of thought at this point. i will say that i remember watching the jacks as early as 1972, but i really did not identify with any individual player until Steve Brown arrived, i believe that was the 74-75 season. pretty sure he won the 1974 state championship with his charger teammates and arrived at SDSU the next year. ANYWAY......
Best team:
does it need to be the 63 National champs?
maybe the 85 runner ups with tournament MVP Tetzlaff?
i do think some players we had at the D2 level could have been successful at the D! level so i do not AUTOMATICALLY discount all D2 teams and players, but i have to say the best and MOST talented team was Daum RS Freshman year. i believe there are many teams we could argue as best team, both the Nate teams that made the tournament, and i would say the best D2 team was Hansen and Stoebner junior year with Matt Jones as freshman, also had Moeller, Cerveny, Schantz, and Cone. AND if we are defining a TEAM as a group that is more than the sum of the parts and that acheives more by working together than individual talent suggests that they should, then i would even say last year team could be considered one of the great TEAMS!!
I TRULY believe that team with the only healthy year of matt jones, hansen, stoebner, and company would have been as good or better than every D1 team we had until Nate arrived. They absolutely should have been Nat. Champs. lost to Metro State on a prayer with 2 defenders in his face could not even see the basket shot. in bounded quickly to schantz who rushed up the floor only to have his potential winner role around and off after the horn. i think they would have beaten that team 7 out of 10 times and that Metro team went on to steam roll all 3 games at the elite 8 and be champs. following year had everyone back except Andy Cone and everyone thought they win it all no problem. ONE PROBLEM every player gets hurt, except Austin. spent most of year with Moeller, Schantz, Cerveny, and Jones in street clothes. Jones never approached his freshman year ability or production again. Stoebner a 6 ft 3 high school point guard played power forward and averaged over 8 boards a game in the hard nosed, physical NCC. him and Austin carried the team to region semi in Kearney, but Stoebs turns his ankle in region quarter and cannot play agains home team Kearney in semi. Austin goes for about 35 and almost beats them by himself but come up just short
anyway best and MOST talented, i do not think there is any trio on any team as talented as seniors George Marshall and DeAndre Parks and Freshman Daum, also throw in keaton moffit and Tellinghuesen. they took maryland to the wire and had a chance to score for the win in the final seconds to go to second round.
Best team:
does it need to be the 63 National champs?
maybe the 85 runner ups with tournament MVP Tetzlaff?
i do think some players we had at the D2 level could have been successful at the D! level so i do not AUTOMATICALLY discount all D2 teams and players, but i have to say the best and MOST talented team was Daum RS Freshman year. i believe there are many teams we could argue as best team, both the Nate teams that made the tournament, and i would say the best D2 team was Hansen and Stoebner junior year with Matt Jones as freshman, also had Moeller, Cerveny, Schantz, and Cone. AND if we are defining a TEAM as a group that is more than the sum of the parts and that acheives more by working together than individual talent suggests that they should, then i would even say last year team could be considered one of the great TEAMS!!
I TRULY believe that team with the only healthy year of matt jones, hansen, stoebner, and company would have been as good or better than every D1 team we had until Nate arrived. They absolutely should have been Nat. Champs. lost to Metro State on a prayer with 2 defenders in his face could not even see the basket shot. in bounded quickly to schantz who rushed up the floor only to have his potential winner role around and off after the horn. i think they would have beaten that team 7 out of 10 times and that Metro team went on to steam roll all 3 games at the elite 8 and be champs. following year had everyone back except Andy Cone and everyone thought they win it all no problem. ONE PROBLEM every player gets hurt, except Austin. spent most of year with Moeller, Schantz, Cerveny, and Jones in street clothes. Jones never approached his freshman year ability or production again. Stoebner a 6 ft 3 high school point guard played power forward and averaged over 8 boards a game in the hard nosed, physical NCC. him and Austin carried the team to region semi in Kearney, but Stoebs turns his ankle in region quarter and cannot play agains home team Kearney in semi. Austin goes for about 35 and almost beats them by himself but come up just short
anyway best and MOST talented, i do not think there is any trio on any team as talented as seniors George Marshall and DeAndre Parks and Freshman Daum, also throw in keaton moffit and Tellinghuesen. they took maryland to the wire and had a chance to score for the win in the final seconds to go to second round.
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