GDT: Jackrabbits vs Bison

[bigticket1]

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Hess - one basket ( in the last minute of the game), Tellinghuisen - two baskets and Daum with zero baskets in the last ten minutes. Not going to win many with your top 3 scorers doing that. And where was the time-out call when the Bison were on the 15-0 run with Daum on the bench ?

[thumper_76]

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I now remember why I don't follow sports till March.


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[SoDakJack]

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Hess - one basket ( in the last minute of the game), Tellinghuisen - two baskets and Daum with zero baskets in the last ten minutes. Not going to win many with your top 3 scorers doing that. And where was the time-out call when the Bison were on the 15-0 run with Daum on the bench ?

This.

Until we find someone that can be a reliable #2 option, this team will struggle to score. Part of what Daum so good last year was the ability if Parks and Marshall to pose a threat to score.

Reed or Hess have to step up if this team wants to make it back to the big dance. Daum, as good as he is, cant do it alone,

[jacksstudent]

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We have to have one of the worst 2nd half +/- ratios in the country.

Make an adjustment and if it's not working switch it up again. I'm sorry but I'm putting this one on otz.

[Carolina010]

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If some of you watched the game as close as you say you do you would have noticed that they did switch defenses multiple times in the second half. Did they switch defensive philosophies so many if you want them to? No. But they did switch up the different zones that they ran from the 1-3-1 to 2-3 to 3-2. Also appeared the play a matched up zone a little bit as well. Obviously the 58 points looks bad and you aren't going to win many games do that but you also aren't going to win many games when you go 5 min without scoring. Our defense has been bad this year but our offense has been just as bad. If we are going to be competitive we are going to need Reed to start making 3 the way we know he can. 0-5 like tonight isn't going to cut it. Also we need Hess to play better as well. 1-6 isn't much better when the one you make doesn't really matter.

A couple of positives from tonight were Flatten had a decent game and Orris looked decent tonight. He didn't have a great game from the field but 6 pts 6 reb 4 ast and only 1 to in 30 min is promising.

[bigticket1]

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The Jacks opened both halves playing a triangle and two defense, which didn't work well at all. For anyone that listened to Tyler on the radio - was there something wrong with El Darwich, or was it the coaches decision not to play him at all ?

[minnesotarabbit]

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We have to have one of the worst 2nd half +/- ratios in the country.

Make an adjustment and if it's not working switch it up again. I'm sorry but I'm putting this one on otz.

2-12 vs d1 teams in the 2nd half...sometimeso you need to make in-game adjustments and even call a timeout once in awhile

[MontanaRabbit]

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We are terrible defensively. That's a fact. We looked great in the first half when NDSU couldn't hit a shot. Any team will look great when that happens. Unfortunately when we give teams good look after good look they eventually start making them.

[TransAmBison]

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So I'll just say at half time I was planning on stopping on here to congratulate you on the game. It appears I know nothing on how basketball today is played...specifically how to set up a team to beat them. NDSU apparently prefers the roundabout way.

[propar80]

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Not a fun night...deleted former post.

[OldHare]

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Anyone who would compare the defense from first half to second half assuming the first half was good did not watch the game. The bison shot horribly. It was not due to defensive pressure. The same could be said for the second half when the same shooters started to make the open shots. More than a few time the shooter at the 3 point line could stand between 2 defenders and neither defender would close in to apply defense and the shooter would take the open shot between 2 defenders who were waiting for the ball to be passed. Someone please paint me a pretty picture for this zone defense. Coach Otz pleaded in the post game for people to not abandon the team. As Propar80 might feel robbed(rightfully so), Coach Otz is asking for some patience. He realizes there are some problems with the defense. Welcome to the club Coach! The coaches do not have total control over ALL the hustle plays Dex Werner showered the Jackrabbits during the game, but setting up an offense during those times we had secondary shooters(Wallace&Orris) firing 3's during the bison run belongs to the coaching staff.

[MontanaRabbit]

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Anyone who would compare the defense from first half to second half assuming the first half was good did not watch the game. The bison shot horribly. It was not due to defensive pressure. The same could be said for the second half when the same shooters started to make the open shots. More than a few time the shooter at the 3 point line could stand between 2 defenders and neither defender would close in to apply defense and the shooter would take the open shot between 2 defenders who were waiting for the ball to be passed. Someone please paint me a pretty picture for this zone defense. Coach Otz pleaded in the post game for people to not abandon the team. As Propar80 might feel robbed(rightfully so), Coach Otz is asking for some patience. He realizes there are some problems with the defense. Welcome to the club Coach! The coaches do not have total control over ALL the hustle plays Dex Werner showered the Jackrabbits during the game, but setting up an offense during those times we had secondary shooters(Wallace&Orris) firing 3's during the bison run belongs to the coaching staff.

Not gonna abandon them but it's gonna be a rollercoaster the rest of the way. Our odds of going to the big dance are very very small at this point.

[Jacks-02]

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Not a reach at all...putting the blame on a defense that got us a 15 pt halftime lead would be a reach.

It wasn't the defense that got us a 15 pt lead at the half, it was NDSU shooting 2-18 on wide open three point shots.

Our defense is pretty much pack it in and let teams take open threes while hoping they miss. It looks good when they are missing, not so much the rest of the time...

[MontanaRabbit]

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It wasn't the defense that got us a 15 pt lead at the half, it was NDSU shooting 2-18 on wide open three point shots.

Our defense is pretty much pack it in and let teams take open threes while hoping they miss. It looks good when they are missing, not so much the rest of the time...

The law of averages tells us they weren't going to continue to miss at that clip. Our offense could have helped in the second by scoring some but the root of our problems is our defense.

[naters_gonna_nate]

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Never posted on here but read sometimes. I was at the game tonight. As some have previously mentioned, the defense was not good in the first half, NDSU just simply missed wide open 3's. It's hardly a defense at all, really. Any team, as has been proven game after game, can get WIDE open 3's every possession. Every single possession. NDSU, a bad shooting team besides Jacobson, made 13 3's tonight. Three off their school record. UNI, Murray State, and Wichita State all broke their school 3 point records.

I'm just at a pure loss. The boys can play as hard as they possibly can on defense, but it doesn't really matter. The zone is not a winning formula. There is a reason only one team in the nation runs full time zone (Syracuse). It doesn't work effectively. I'm just seriously not exaggerating when I say that literally EVERY possession, NDSU could've/did get a wide open look. The zone is 90% dependent on how the other team is shooting.

In regards to the bad display of man-to-man defense to start the season, that can actually be corrected. There are things to fix and ways to improve man-to-man. If Otz doesn't think he can get them to play better man D than they were, then he either, 1) Is doubting his players' athleticism or 2) Doesn't think he can coach them up effectively, which is quite concerning.

And yes, the offense went into a huge lull in the second half. But they shouldn't have to be perfect every game to make up for a horrific defense. The offense flows WAY better than the beginning of the year, and they are absolutely talented enough on offense to win the Summit League.

Finally, I'd love to stand behind Otz (I really do like the offense right now and think he's a good guy) and believe in them like he asked the fans to do in the postgame. But I'm really struggling to do that when a very, very obvious deficiency is not being corrected. Especially when GA tickets are $25 freakin dollars (Crazy, stupid expensive). Not playing even a little bit of man-to-man defense is asinine. Especially when UNI has made 473 threes against you in one game. Also, Tevin was shadowing Jacobson to start the game and I don't think they did that at all in the second half. Weird.

Rant over.