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  • #91
    Re: GDT: SDSU vs. Texas Tech Red Raiders

    Originally posted by MontanaRabbit View Post
    They had 9. They essentially had 11 more possessions than us.

    Points off TO's: TT - 23 SDSU - 5

    That's why we didn't win. Not because Nagy pulled Daum for 2 minutes. Not because we didn't drive and dish. Not because Jake didn't post up so he could get going.
    Lol, #contrarian for the win. I never said that the players had nothing to do with it, I just started a discussion about what I believe Nagy did that contributed to the loss. Again though, god forbid we do anything but point out the obvious on a discussion board. Might as well just post "They scored more points than us, that's why we didn't win", and get it over with, so we don't have to waste our time with all of this silly discussion.

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    • #92
      Re: GDT: SDSU vs. Texas Tech Red Raiders

      Safe to say there is plenty of blame to go around for the loss.
      Nothing better than "motorboating" the Gophers!

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      • #93
        Re: GDT: SDSU vs. Texas Tech Red Raiders

        Originally posted by GoldCountryJack View Post
        On the downside of Nagy is his preference to let a team go on a big run w/o calling a timeout and then calling one after we score.
        Have never understood this myself.
        "Tell the truth and pay your bills and you don't have to back down from anyone"--My Dad

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        • #94
          Re: GDT: SDSU vs. Texas Tech Red Raiders

          Originally posted by jacks1 View Post
          Have never understood this myself.
          It's bizarre to me too and I've heard him acknowledge it several times during post-game interviews.

          As TT was going on that run at about the 10 minute mark in the second half I was thinking a timeout might be good. I knew Nagy wasn't going to call one though. For whatever reason his philosophy is not to use the timeouts like that.

          He's won almost 400 games so he's obviously doing something right though.

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          • #95
            Re: GDT: SDSU vs. Texas Tech Red Raiders

            Originally posted by MontanaRabbit View Post
            It's bizarre to me too and I've heard him acknowledge it several times during post-game interviews.

            As TT was going on that run at about the 10 minute mark in the second half I was thinking a timeout might be good. I knew Nagy wasn't going to call one though. For whatever reason his philosophy is not to use the timeouts like that.

            He's won almost 400 games so he's obviously doing something right though.
            I thought the same thing at the end of the 15-2 run to open the game. There it was time for a media timeout, but the problem with waiting for that is that play can go on for two or three more minutes if there isn't a stoppage in play.

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            • #96
              Re: GDT: SDSU vs. Texas Tech Red Raiders

              Originally posted by jack power View Post
              Are you coach haters at practice every day?
              FWIW, Daum came in, TT inbounded the ball from in front of their bench and lobbed it over his head and his guy got a easy bucket. We came down to the other end and Daum air balled a 3 with over 20 seconds on the shot clock. Back on defense and he didn't move over a help on a layup. I'm guessing those things got him a quick hook.

              He wasn't only out less than 2 minutes at the most. When he came back in, we played both him and Theisen at the same time for a bit. He was in the regular rotation after that . Daum played 10 minutes in the second half, Ian -8 and Divine- 4.
              Like I said, Coach Nagy knows what he is doing.

              My perception is that there are different standards for different players, and again just my opinion, but its always been that way. The same could probably be said of any coach ever.

              A great example is Taevaunn Prince, so many mistakes. So much playing time.

              Again, just my opinion.
              “I used to be with it. But then they changed what it was. Now what I’m with isn’t it, and what’s it seems scary and wierd. It’ll happen to you.” — Abe Simpson

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              • #97
                Re: GDT: SDSU vs. Texas Tech Red Raiders

                Originally posted by SF_Rabbit_Fan View Post
                Like I said, Coach Nagy knows what he is doing.

                My perception is that there are different standards for different players, and again just my opinion, but its always been that way. The same could probably be said of any coach ever.

                A great example is Taevaunn Prince, so many mistakes. So much playing time.

                Again, just my opinion.
                Didn't this dude transfer out after ending up in Nagy's doghouse at the end of the bench?
                "Tell the truth and pay your bills and you don't have to back down from anyone"--My Dad

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                • #98
                  Re: GDT: SDSU vs. Texas Tech Red Raiders

                  Originally posted by MontanaRabbit View Post
                  It's bizarre to me too and I've heard him acknowledge it several times during post-game interviews.

                  As TT was going on that run at about the 10 minute mark in the second half I was thinking a timeout might be good. I knew Nagy wasn't going to call one though. For whatever reason his philosophy is not to use the timeouts like that.

                  He's won almost 400 games so he's obviously doing something right though.
                  Reminds me a lot of Coach Munsen at Mitchell. He rarely called a timeout when a team went on a run. And he has a couple wins in his career.

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                  • #99
                    Re: GDT: SDSU vs. Texas Tech Red Raiders

                    I just never understood why coaches dont like to use time outs. I can understand different reasons for when you should or maybe shouldnt call one. but they are wasted after the game. My view is that they are college kids. And their is always a teaching or coaching moment you can have. especially the first half timeout. At the very least just take it on the last postition. seems like a wasted teaching or coaching moment. I feel that way even in blow out games or where its a comfortable lead.
                    "The most rewarding things you do in life, are often the ones that look like they cannot be done.” Arnold Palmer

                    Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things.

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                    • #100
                      Re: GDT: SDSU vs. Texas Tech Red Raiders

                      Originally posted by bigticket1 View Post
                      I thought the same thing at the end of the 15-2 run to open the game. There it was time for a media timeout, but the problem with waiting for that is that play can go on for two or three more minutes if there isn't a stoppage in play.
                      That run was spurred by a bunch of turnovers and we missed shots. We answered that one quite well though.


                      All in all it's a disappointing loss but if we take care of business the next 3 games we will be in damn good shape going into conference play. Winning on the road is so hard in college basketball it's hard to get too upset about a road loss to a P5 team. Hopefully TT makes some noise in the Big 12.

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                      • #101
                        Re: GDT: SDSU vs. Texas Tech Red Raiders

                        Originally posted by SF_Rabbit_Fan View Post
                        Like I said, Coach Nagy knows what he is doing.

                        My perception is that there are different standards for different players, and again just my opinion, but its always been that way. The same could probably be said of any coach ever.

                        A great example is Taevaunn Prince, so many mistakes. So much playing time.

                        Again, just my opinion.
                        I think i understand where you're going and i don't disagree. I've wondered about certain players in the past playing as much as they do. Do you think it's because he trusts certain players more, favoritism, or maybe sees something others don't? I'm guessing it might go on with other coaches, in all sports.

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                        • #102
                          Re: GDT: SDSU vs. Texas Tech Red Raiders

                          Originally posted by goon View Post
                          I just never understood why coaches dont like to use time outs. I can understand different reasons for when you should or maybe shouldnt call one. but they are wasted after the game. My view is that they are college kids. And their is always a teaching or coaching moment you can have. especially the first half timeout. At the very least just take it on the last postition. seems like a wasted teaching or coaching moment. I feel that way even in blow out games or where its a comfortable lead.
                          I appreciate coaches not burning timeouts at the end of games. The last couple minutes of close games are painfully long. That said, Nagy is at the other end of the spectrum.

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                          • #103
                            Re: GDT: SDSU vs. Texas Tech Red Raiders

                            Originally posted by jack power View Post
                            I appreciate coaches not burning timeouts at the end of games. The last couple minutes of close games are painfully long. That said, Nagy is at the other end of the spectrum.
                            I agree but thats why they cut down on the timeouts teams have. sadly what it means is coaches will probably hang out to them till late just incase they need them and will not use them early on when they maybe should. like when we are down 15-2 to start the game.
                            "The most rewarding things you do in life, are often the ones that look like they cannot be done.” Arnold Palmer

                            Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things.

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                            • #104
                              Re: GDT: SDSU vs. Texas Tech Red Raiders

                              Originally posted by goon View Post
                              I agree but thats why they cut down on the timeouts teams have. sadly what it means is coaches will probably hang out to them till late just incase they need them and will not use them early on when they maybe should. like when we are down 15-2 to start the game.
                              Nagy took 4 TO's into the half I believe. Isn't the 4th a use it or lose it?

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                              • #105
                                Re: GDT: SDSU vs. Texas Tech Red Raiders

                                The other advantage to keeping timeouts is the new rule that allows teams to advance the ball to half court after calling a timeout.

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