Hypothetical Annual BBall Game

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

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I think SDSU could get some good mid-majors and maybe some lower power 6 conference teams to play games at the Pentagon. I'm just against SDSU playing a regular season game in Rapid but all for it if its a exhibition game during the season or before the season starts.

The bold will likely happen. And half the posters on this board will complain about losing a home game in Brookings.

[UWMandSDSU]

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The bold will likely happen. And half the posters on this board will complain about losing a home game in Brookings.

They tried to get someone to play SDSU this year and nobody wanted to, albeit it was probably high major team.

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

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They tried to get someone to play SDSU this year and nobody wanted to, albeit it was probably high major team.

I remember reading that. Are you saying because it didn't happen this year, it won't ever happen?

[Kemo]

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The bold will likely happen. And half the posters on this board will complain about losing a home game in Brookings.

The way I look at it is: Would the game happen if the only option was at Frost?

If yes, then I think it should be at Frost.

If no, and hosting it a different venue was the only way to make it happen (and it's a worth-while event), then I'm fine with it. For basketball, anyways. Football, not so much.

[UWMandSDSU]

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I remember reading that. Are you saying because it didn't happen this year, it won't ever happen?

No, I have no reason to believe it will never happen. I was just relaying information to others that they were trying to get 1st college game at Sanford Pentagon to be between the Jacks and a high major school.

[OldHare]

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Nope, just relaying information to others that they were trying to get 1st college game at Sanford Pentagon to be between the Jacks and a high major school.

Is there a reason that you would not want a game in the new Sanford Arena rather than the Pentagon?

[UWMandSDSU]

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Is there a reason that you would not want a game in the new Sanford Arena rather than the Pentagon?

What?? I never said I didn't want a game down in Sioux Falls. I am confused.

[6-4-3 Jackrabbit]

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We would all love to have the Rabbits play near our home (SF or RC) in SD. I don't see it happening because they play on the road enough. Even if the game is in SF it's still a road game. SDSU has enough problems getting games at Frost (check the pre-conference schedule this year). To give up a home game doesn't make any sense. The bottom line for the team is a game in SF or RC is just another road trip for the players.

GO RABBITS!

[MontanaRabbit]

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If the Jacks play a game at the Pentagon it's going to be because Sanford ponies up some money to bring in a BCS school, or pays SDSU. Wisconsin and St John's didn't play there for free. If someone can find a BCS team that is willing to play the Jacks at the Pentagon and Sanford pays that school enough the Jacks will play there. It would likely be the only way SDSU gets a "home" game against a BCS opponent.

And Old Hare it won't be at the Arena because Sanford wants to pimp the Pentagon.

[jack power]

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They tried to get someone to play SDSU this year and nobody wanted to, albeit it was probably high major team.

They tried to get Wisconsin to play the Jacks. The Badgers said no.

[TK22867]

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They tried to get Wisconsin to play the Jacks. The Badgers said no.

I actually heard they initially reached out even higher to Duke, UNC, and Kansas.

There is nothing to gain for a top-tier or even strong mid-major to come play SDSU in Frost or anywhere in SD - at least while the Jacks are fielding a good to great squad. All the $ in the world wouldn't make up for a loss that would hurt their NCAA seeding.

[OldHare]

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What?? I never said I didn't want a game down in Sioux Falls. I am confused.

Me too I guess. I did not realize you were referring to this past opener. I was thinking in the future.

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

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We would all love to have the Rabbits play near our home (SF or RC) in SD. I don't see it happening because they play on the road enough. Even if the game is in SF it's still a road game. SDSU has enough problems getting games at Frost (check the pre-conference schedule this year). To give up a home game doesn't make any sense. The bottom line for the team is a game in SF or RC is just another road trip for the players.

GO RABBITS!

I took your advice and looked at the pre-conference schedule.

I realized we had great home games against Southwest State, DSU, and Wayne State with an average attendance just over 1700 for those three games. No way would I give one of those up for another road game in Sioux Falls against somebody like Gonzaga. /s

[yoteforever]

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It would need to be a game for the Hills rather than SDSU or Wyoming. Also, it would not want to be any tradeoff like the yotes did for a game in Laramie. I would have no problem with a neutral site game for both teams. I would prefer a home and home. Although I live close to Frost. There should not be a trade for a Rapid game in return for a Laramie game. We could always go to Stanford for a beatdown rather than Wyoming for a game in Rapid.

Clearly you aren't the AD. If you were, you'd be thinking of ways to involve more fans and endearing them towards your program. USD's strategy was to do just that. Make an effort to get more people interested in Coyote athletics. I do t know how you measure success, and whether our game with them was successful in terms of creating interest and expanding fan base.

For or my money, I wished none of those types of games ever existed. If you are doing it as favor that is owed to the fan base, then I guess ok. But if you are doing it to try and create interest for future ticket sales I think it's ridiculous. A case in point was the absolute albatross football game we played against NDSU in Sioux Falls. We aren't ready to play that game, then to play a "home game" where the opponents had nearly as many as we did was stupid. I have appealed to our administration over the years to stop experimenting with the Sioux Falls fan base. If they aren't coming, they aren't coming. The only way to cure that is by winning and creating fan interest in being part of something special. Thus far we haven't been able to do that.

I congratulate your athletic department for sticking to their guns on this topic. You're teams represent your university well, and they have been good enough to create some excitement. What happens when you have a down year or two is an unknown, but for now I applaud how you've done it. It is hard to get big caliber teams into either Brookings or Vermillion, but you've done a good job of that as well. We need forward thinking administrators and coaches to start scheduling more quality opponents at home, that also creates fan interest. Our men's BB team playing Peru State a week ago is ridiculous. Pissed me off we would even do that.

Lastly, you said you'd prefer to go to Stanford for a beat down rather than give up a home and home. First of all, most teams you have played at that caliber you have played hard, won some, and represented the Jacks very well. The product you have on the floor has been very good the past 2-3 years. So I wouldn't assume it would be a beat down. I would assume you would play them to the end.

In closing, I will say this. I think the Joe Glenn hire was good, the question is how long he can take that grind at his age. Secondly, if we can get a coach that can recruit basketball players on a more national scene, and get players that aren't quite Big 12 or Big 10, yet can play well in the Summit, and have enough of them that collectively they can play the big boys for the most part on a night to big basis, then I do think USD fan interest will expand. But not in Sioux Falls, but rather the Sioux City and Yankton markets. I see interest out there, you just have to cultivate it some how. Again, SDSU has done a very good job in doing this. Now is the time to build your stadium with all the interest growing.

[MontanaRabbit]

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Clearly you aren't the AD. If you were, you'd be thinking of ways to involve more fans and endearing them towards your program. USD's strategy was to do just that. Make an effort to get more people interested in Coyote athletics. I do t know how you measure success, and whether our game with them was successful in terms of creating interest and expanding fan base.

For or my money, I wished none of those types of games ever existed. If you are doing it as favor that is owed to the fan base, then I guess ok. But if you are doing it to try and create interest for future ticket sales I think it's ridiculous. A case in point was the absolute albatross football game we played against NDSU in Sioux Falls. We aren't ready to play that game, then to play a "home game" where the opponents had nearly as many as we did was stupid. I have appealed to our administration over the years to stop experimenting with the Sioux Falls fan base. If they aren't coming, they aren't coming. The only way to cure that is by winning and creating fan interest in being part of something special. Thus far we haven't been able to do that.

I congratulate your athletic department for sticking to their guns on this topic. You're teams represent your university well, and they have been good enough to create some excitement. What happens when you have a down year or two is an unknown, but for now I applaud how you've done it. It is hard to get big caliber teams into either Brookings or Vermillion, but you've done a good job of that as well. We need forward thinking administrators and coaches to start scheduling more quality opponents at home, that also creates fan interest. Our men's BB team playing Peru State a week ago is ridiculous. Pissed me off we would even do that.

Lastly, you said you'd prefer to go to Stanford for a beat down rather than give up a home and home. First of all, most teams you have played at that caliber you have played hard, won some, and represented the Jacks very well. The product you have on the floor has been very good the past 2-3 years. So I wouldn't assume it would be a beat down. I would assume you would play them to the end.

In closing, I will say this. I think the Joe Glenn hire was good, the question is how long he can take that grind at his age. Secondly, if we can get a coach that can recruit basketball players on a more national scene, and get players that aren't quite Big 12 or Big 10, yet can play well in the Summit, and have enough of them that collectively they can play the big boys for the most part on a night to big basis, then I do think USD fan interest will expand. But not in Sioux Falls, but rather the Sioux City and Yankton markets. I see interest out there, you just have to cultivate it some how. Again, SDSU has done a very good job in doing this. Now is the time to build your stadium with all the interest growing.

Why does USD have to recruit basketball players on a national scene? SDSU has had success with local/regional talent.

I hate the fact that people think the only way to compete is to recruit kids from other parts of the country. 12 of 16 kids on the SDSU roster are from SD, Mn, or IA.