SDSU Jackrabbits vs. UMKC Roos

[OldHare]

Re: SDSU Jackrabbits vs. UMKC Roos

Did anyone go to the game? Sometimes the on location vision is different than the TV and you may see a few more things during the game.

[Nidaros]

Re: SDSU Jackrabbits vs. UMKC Roos

Did anyone go to the game? Sometimes the on location vision is different than the TV and you may see a few more things during the game.

I wish I had gone to the game, then I would not have to listen to the biased comments on ESPN3. Maybe Filbert was there.

[mitchellrabbit]

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I just watched the replay of the game since i couldnt watch last night. It sure looked like an offensive foul or a nice acting job. So , according to the announcers, the refs decided the outcome of the game by making that call. Had they not made the call and UMKC makes the winning basket, it seems to me the refs would have decided the outcome of the game by not making the call. He pushed the defender down. Could have been wide open for the winning shot. I say they made the right call but then my team won.

[RowdyRabbit]

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I just watched the replay of the game since i couldnt watch last night. It sure looked like an offensive foul or a nice acting job. So , according to the announcers, the refs decided the outcome of the game by making that call. Had they not made the call and UMKC makes the winning basket, it seems to me the refs would have decided the outcome of the game by not making the call. He pushed the defender down. Could have been wide open for the winning shot. I say they made the right call but then my team won.

I absolutely hate it when people say this team or that team lost because of one play or foul, but then you go look at the stats and that team shot so poorly from the charity strip (10-22) it would make a jv team look good. Make the amount of free throws a competent team should be able make, and you win the game.

Besides that, I'm with RO, that was about as easy of a call as there is. Pretty blatent push off, and I would've said so if it were on SDSU as well.

[filbert]

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Did anyone go to the game? Sometimes the on location vision is different than the TV and you may see a few more things during the game.

We were there.

The refs were absolutely awful, all night long. They lost control of the game in the first half, letting way, way, WAY too much contact go (on both sides, granted, but UMKC was definitely the more aggressive team early and so was the net beneficiary). I think part of SDSU's slow start was that it took a while for the Jacks players to figure out that the refereeing was, in fact, really that terrible. Occasionally, out of the blue, the refs would call a foul, and then let another dozen or so go, then out of the blue call another one. Absolutely nobody in the house knew what would be called and what wouldn't be.

So I'm of the opinion that the last technical foul call was 90%+ attributable to the refereeing, not just on the player. If the game had been called properly from the opening tip, the player would not have been outraged that his rather obvious push-off was called as a foul, because he'd been getting away with it and similar excessive contact all game long up until then. That's not the player's fault.

As I left Municipal Auditorium, I made the comment that they should send the tape of that game to the NCAA as a tutorial for referees on how NOT to referee a game.

UMKC looked to me like a team that has some parts, and was in the process of figuring out how to use them. I think in the end SDSU's D-I on-court experience, and Bittle, was the difference.

[jacksfan29]

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Seems as if poor officiating is a theme throughout the new and improved WAC. NDSU had a similar problem last week in Utah. It is rare to see Phillips that upset after a game which they won. We had a similar issue last year at Bakersfield. My preference is that we avoid the WAC till that conference gets on its feet, if they ever do.

We were there.

The refs were absolutely awful, all night long. They lost control of the game in the first half, letting way, way, WAY too much contact go (on both sides, granted, but UMKC was definitely the more aggressive team early and so was the net beneficiary). I think part of SDSU's slow start was that it took a while for the Jacks players to figure out that the refereeing was, in fact, really that terrible. Occasionally, out of the blue, the refs would call a foul, and then let another dozen or so go, then out of the blue call another one. Absolutely nobody in the house knew what would be called and what wouldn't be.

So I'm of the opinion that the last technical foul call was 90%+ attributable to the refereeing, not just on the player. If the game had been called properly from the opening tip, the player would not have been outraged that his rather obvious push-off was called as a foul, because he'd been getting away with it and similar excessive contact all game long up until then. That's not the player's fault.

As I left Municipal Auditorium, I made the comment that they should send the tape of that game to the NCAA as a tutorial for referees on how NOT to referee a game.

UMKC looked to me like a team that has some parts, and was in the process of figuring out how to use them. I think in the end SDSU's D-I on-court experience, and Bittle, was the difference.

[RabbitObsessed]

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We were there.

The refs were absolutely awful, all night long. They lost control of the game in the first half, letting way, way, WAY too much contact go (on both sides, granted, but UMKC was definitely the more aggressive team early and so was the net beneficiary). I think part of SDSU's slow start was that it took a while for the Jacks players to figure out that the refereeing was, in fact, really that terrible. Occasionally, out of the blue, the refs would call a foul, and then let another dozen or so go, then out of the blue call another one. Absolutely nobody in the house knew what would be called and what wouldn't be.

So I'm of the opinion that the last technical foul call was 90%+ attributable to the refereeing, not just on the player. If the game had been called properly from the opening tip, the player would not have been outraged that his rather obvious push-off was called as a foul, because he'd been getting away with it and similar excessive contact all game long up until then. That's not the player's fault.

As I left Municipal Auditorium, I made the comment that they should send the tape of that game to the NCAA as a tutorial for referees on how NOT to referee a game.

UMKC looked to me like a team that has some parts, and was in the process of figuring out how to use them. I think in the end SDSU's D-I on-court experience, and Bittle, was the difference.

This makes sense. I only saw the last 2-3 minutes, and when I watched the play live, it looked like an obvious push off. When I saw the replay, it only confirmed what I saw live. He pushed him and was called for it. I was in a hotel with some buddies and we didn't have the sound on, so I was confused by the player's outrage and by what I read on here. I was the only SDSU fan there and everyone else agreed with the call. Couldn't believe it was considered controversial. I guess if it was poor officiating the whole game, there would be some confusion there.

[OldHare]

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UMKC site must be written by the announcers on line.
http://www.umkckangaroos.com/ViewArt...B_OEM_ID=18300

[Nidaros]

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The refs were absolutely awful, all night long.

Are you saying the refing in the final 3.9 seconds was awful? I beg to differ. Let the KC folks talk about the questionable call all they want. But that little Harrison committed charging in going to the basket. If anything is questionable its Harrison's temperament. He lost the game for the Roos and not the refs imo. Watched on ESPN3 so not as good as being an on hand witness.

[RabbitObsessed]

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Are you saying the refing in the final 3.9 seconds was awful? I beg to differ. Let the KC folks talk about the questionable call all they want. But that little Harrison committed charging in going to the basket. If anything is questionable its Harrison's temperament. He lost the game for the Roos and not the refs imo. Watched on ESPN3 so not as good as being an on hand witness.

I'm fairly certain he meant it was inconsistent all night.

[OldHare]

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Are you saying the refing in the final 3.9 seconds was awful? I beg to differ. Let the KC folks talk about the questionable call all they want. But that little Harrison committed charging in going to the basket. If anything is questionable its Harrison's temperament. He lost the game for the Roos and not the refs imo. Watched on ESPN3 so not as good as being an on hand witness.

Coach Richardson has his hands full with the balance act of aggressive play and smart play. 2 technical on the same player is akin to the personal fouls we saw by SELA in football and it will not end well for the team. Much like the SELA, UMKC will learn from this game. It is sad that we see some officiating that allows players to get out of control as the Roos did last night. One may have expected the rule changes to trickle down to the WAC.

[Nidaros]

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I'm fairly certain he meant it was inconsistent all night.

I am not into officiating or new rules and all that stuff, but really offer no opinion on consistency. I assume, the officials know the rules and call them as they see them. The call made in the last 3.9 seconds was a correct one, even though it favors SDSU, it was a correct one. It was one that decided an outcome of a game. The players above all should be able to handle the brunt of calls favorable or unfavorable. Mr. Harrison I hope as his coach does learns from this game. His behavior left something to be desired. If Anders had acted like this, I would hope he would be corrected by the staff. Just saying...

[RabbitObsessed]

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I am not into officiating or new rules and all that stuff, but really offer no opinion on consistency. I assume, the officials know the rules and call them as they see them. The call made in the last 3.9 seconds was a correct one, even though it favors SDSU, it was a correct one. It was one that decided an outcome of a game. The players above all should be able to handle the brunt of calls favorable or unfavorable. Mr. Harrison I hope as his coach does learns from this game. His behavior left something to be desired. If Anders had acted like this, I would hope he would be corrected by the staff. Just saying...

I'm not sure what you are even talking about at this point.

[discoDancinJackrabbit]

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I'm not sure what you are even talking about at this point.

[Nidaros]

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I'm not sure what you are even talking about at this point.

Just saying...