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  • #16
    Re: 2013-2014 Season

    http://www.argusleader.com/article/2...ill-experience
    There is a bit of chatter about Broman as getting point guard minutes this year.
    Best to remember these are kids and they are doing everything they can to entertain us, be scholars, and all in all be great humans. Jackedforlife

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    • #17
      Re: 2013-2014 Season

      Originally posted by OldHare View Post
      http://www.argusleader.com/article/2...ill-experience
      There is a bit of chatter about Broman as getting point guard minutes this year.
      Also Nagy says the Dykstra was getting some playing time at the 3!? That would be a HUGE lineup if he does have Jordan play the 3. (Bittle (6'4), Carlson (6'4), Dykstra (6'8), Larson (6'9), Heemstra (6'9))

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      • #18
        Re: 2013-2014 Season

        Originally posted by SanDakotaState View Post
        Also Nagy says the Dykstra was getting some playing time at the 3!? That would be a HUGE lineup if he does have Jordan play the 3. (Bittle (6'4), Carlson (6'4), Dykstra (6'8), Larson (6'9), Heemstra (6'9))
        Or maybe Connor Devine at 6'10" might see a few minutes!
        Best to remember these are kids and they are doing everything they can to entertain us, be scholars, and all in all be great humans. Jackedforlife

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        • #19
          Re: 2013-2014 Season

          Originally posted by SanDakotaState View Post
          Also Nagy says the Dykstra was getting some playing time at the 3!? That would be a HUGE lineup if he does have Jordan play the 3. (Bittle (6'4), Carlson (6'4), Dykstra (6'8), Larson (6'9), Heemstra (6'9))
          I think you will see: Carlson (6'4), White (6'6) Dykstra (6'8) Larson (6'9) Heemstra (6'9)

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          • #20
            Re: 2013-2014 Season

            The only problem with that lineup is your only big man off the bench is Devine.

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            • #21
              Re: 2013-2014 Season

              Originally posted by Jacks-02 View Post
              The only problem with that lineup is your only big man off the bench is Devine.
              I think thats the line up to start with, but heemstra first to the bench for a rest and to avoid foul trouble and bring in Devine. move Dykstra and Larson to the post, and let bittle take PG with carlson moving to shooting or bring Broman off the bench as shootging guard. That way to me it seems you start your best line up, and sub in young guys to play with the experince and fit in the mold of having either size or shooting ability allways on the floor. So if Heemstra subs out early, he can then sub in for either Larson or Dysktra and still have 2 of the main big guys in the game, that would be key. I think Nagy will have to work to adjust his rotation of players a bit more this year. I dont really see any one besides maybe Carlson really staying in for most of the game. The bench is going to be needed more this year since Nate cant take over games and play 39 minutes agame anymore.

              I could see bittle starting at point, but who out of those 5, Carlson, White, dysktra, Larson or heemstra do you want to take out? Heemstra maybe, but with his passing ability and putting Dystra at the 3 is a huge mis match and advantage in our favor.
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              • #22
                Re: 2013-2014 Season

                I really don't see that as a "problem." You sub one big and a perimeter player and still have two bigs on the floor. If Dykstra stays on the floor he is now the 4. Flexibility is what I would call it.

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                • #23
                  Re: 2013-2014 Season

                  Originally posted by Jacks-02 View Post
                  The only problem with that lineup is your only big man off the bench is Devine.
                  The bigger problem is you don't have true point guard. Carlson does not create of the dribble. He can handle some pressure and he can occasionally get to the hoop but he is much more comfortable as a spot up jump shooter. He doesn't "drive and dish" or run the pick and roll.

                  The hole at point guard is going to be a huge issue. I see nothing in any comments from anyone in the program that indicates that Bittle is ready to fill that spot. Doesn't matter how many shooters or big men you have, no point guard to captain the ship equals major problems.

                  This team has talent, experience and potential however there are a lot of obstacles between those things and ultimate success.
                  We are here to add what we can to life, not get what we can from life. -Sir William Osler

                  We do not see things as they are, we see things as we are.

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                  • #24
                    Re: 2013-2014 Season

                    Originally posted by jackmd View Post
                    The bigger problem is you don't have true point guard. Carlson does not create of the dribble. He can handle some pressure and he can occasionally get to the hoop but he is much more comfortable as a spot up jump shooter. He doesn't "drive and dish" or run the pick and roll.

                    The hole at point guard is going to be a huge issue. I see nothing in any comments from anyone in the program that indicates that Bittle is ready to fill that spot. Doesn't matter how many shooters or big men you have, no point guard to captain the ship equals major problems.

                    This team has talent, experience and potential however there are a lot of obstacles between those things and ultimate success.
                    ^^^This.

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                    • #25
                      Re: 2013-2014 Season

                      Nagy had good things to say about Broman at the Stater's Luncheon yesterday. Said he was a good ball handler and makes good choices. Hopefully he is correct and we have a 3rd option to go to.

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                      • #26
                        Re: 2013-2014 Season

                        Originally posted by jackmd View Post
                        The bigger problem is you don't have true point guard. Carlson does not create of the dribble. He can handle some pressure and he can occasionally get to the hoop but he is much more comfortable as a spot up jump shooter. He doesn't "drive and dish" or run the pick and roll.

                        The hole at point guard is going to be a huge issue. I see nothing in any comments from anyone in the program that indicates that Bittle is ready to fill that spot. Doesn't matter how many shooters or big men you have, no point guard to captain the ship equals major problems.

                        This team has talent, experience and potential however there are a lot of obstacles between those things and ultimate success.
                        I've heard the same which is why i put Brayden at the pg spot. I have also heard that Brayden has made good strides in ball handling but you're right, i think we're gonna struggle at that spot. He just seemed to be the better choice.

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                        • #27
                          Re: 2013-2014 Season

                          So we should've sat Nate more and let someone else (Carlson/Bittle) get some reps at PG.
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                          • #28
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                            Originally posted by RowdyRabbit View Post
                            So we should've sat Nate more and let someone else (Carlson/Bittle) get some reps at PG.
                            Damn right.The drop off at pg this year is all Nagys fault!

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                            • #29
                              Re: 2013-2014 Season

                              Originally posted by jackmd View Post
                              The bigger problem is you don't have true point guard. Carlson does not create of the dribble. He can handle some pressure and he can occasionally get to the hoop but he is much more comfortable as a spot up jump shooter. He doesn't "drive and dish" or run the pick and roll.

                              The hole at point guard is going to be a huge issue. I see nothing in any comments from anyone in the program that indicates that Bittle is ready to fill that spot. Doesn't matter how many shooters or big men you have, no point guard to captain the ship equals major problems.

                              This team has talent, experience and potential however there are a lot of obstacles between those things and ultimate success.
                              Well said. Tho I remember Nagy hyping up Prince before last year about how he was looking like a starter and so on and so on. Then he stunk it up from the get go. I agree that Carlson is much better as a shooting guard, never looked comfortable at the point, maybe he changed.

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                              • #30
                                Re: 2013-2014 Season

                                Originally posted by jackmd View Post
                                The bigger problem is you don't have true point guard. Carlson does not create of the dribble. He can handle some pressure and he can occasionally get to the hoop but he is much more comfortable as a spot up jump shooter. He doesn't "drive and dish" or run the pick and roll.

                                The hole at point guard is going to be a huge issue. I see nothing in any comments from anyone in the program that indicates that Bittle is ready to fill that spot. Doesn't matter how many shooters or big men you have, no point guard to captain the ship equals major problems.

                                This team has talent, experience and potential however there are a lot of obstacles between those things and ultimate success.
                                Does anyone really think that after one week of practice that Scott Nagy is going to come out and say that they have someone ready to take Nate's spot , even if he believes that to be true ? There is going to be a lot of pressure on whoever starts at that spot, and a point guard by committee approach would not surprise me until things sort themselves out. To be honest , we haven't seen enough of Jake Bittle or Brayden at the point to have any idea if they can get the job done. The fact that we didn't sign a "true" point guard in last year's class and haven't yet in the upcoming class gives me the feeling that the coaching staff is fairly comfortable with what is already here.

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