GDT--Baylor

[TK22867]

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and would compete with Baylor on a night-in and night-out bases. To suggest otherwise indicates a degree of ignorance that isn't acceptable for an supposed analyst.

Do you really believe this? You think we can compete with Baylor, a Top 10 team, night in and night out? I'm going to call you out on this one and suggest that post in itself is a bit ignorant in terms of the "real world" of college basketball.

Look, I understand that you really love SDSU as we all do and I don't want you to take this personally, but if Baylor is playing their A game they beat us by 30 last night. Baylor did not play well (C effort at best), which kept the Jacks in the game even though the Jacks weren't exactly stellar.

I enjoyed last night for what it was: a chance for an upset. That game is the epitome of why we have a tournament instead of crowning the #1 team national champs at the end of the season. As Herm Edwards says, that's why they play the game.

However, to suggest that the Jacks can consistently compete with teams like Baylor, Duke, Kentucky, etc. on regular basis is, well, just a bit silly.

[Nidaros]

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Two All-Big Twelve posts combined to score all of 6 points against SDSU. I don't think they need much more than what they've got. One more player in the rotation is all it would've taken, IMO.

How about two or three?

[jackmd]

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I like Barkley with the NBA; he is superb. He is alright with the NCAA, I just don't think he meshes that well with the other people around him. They really don't know how to handle him.

Agree and I like him in that role. He just doesn't seem to do well with the other college commentators and I think his knowledge about the college game is limited to the time he has to watch which isn't much. Don't want to hijack the thread so I'll leave it at that.

[jackmd]

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Do you really believe this? You think we can compete with Baylor, a Top 10 team, night in and night out? I'm going to call you out on this one and suggest that post in itself is a bit ignorant in terms of the "real world" of college basketball.

Look, I understand that you really love SDSU as we all do and I don't want you to take this personally, but if Baylor is playing their A game they beat us by 30 last night. Baylor did not play well (C effort at best), which kept the Jacks in the game even though the Jacks weren't exactly stellar.

I enjoyed last night for what it was: a chance for an upset. That game is the epitome of why we have a tournament instead of crowning the #1 team national champs at the end of the season. As Herm Edwards says, that's why they play the game.

However, to suggest that the Jacks can consistently compete with teams like Baylor, Duke, Kentucky, etc. on regular basis is, well, just a bit silly.

Baylor isn't Duke or Kentucky. Yes this years team can compete with a team like Baylor on a consistent basis.

[TK22867]

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2012-13 Jackrabbit Men's Basketball: Unfinished Business

Filbert, isn't that a bit cliche' for you? I expected better and challenge you to come up with something more catchy with that mad scientist brain of yours...........

[Nidaros]

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Do you really believe this? You think we can compete with Baylor, a Top 10 team, night in and night out? I'm going to call you out on this one and suggest that post in itself is a bit ignorant in terms of the "real world" of college basketball.

Look, I understand that you really love SDSU as we all do and I don't want you to take this personally, but if Baylor is playing their A game they beat us by 30 last night. Baylor did not play well (C effort at best), which kept the Jacks in the game even though the Jacks weren't exactly stellar.

I enjoyed last night for what it was: a chance for an upset. That game is the epitome of why we have a tournament instead of crowning the #1 team national champs at the end of the season. As Herm Edwards says, that's why they play the game.

However, to suggest that the Jacks can consistently compete with teams like Baylor, Duke, Kentucky, etc. on regular basis is, well, just a bit silly.

We cant and the sooner the coaching staff recognizes that, the better we will be come in recruiting. I just feel we are a few years away from becoming a household name in bb, but we just are not there yet. A very good post and rep pts given.

[TK22867]

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Baylor isn't Duke or Kentucky. Yes this years team can compete with a team like Baylor on a consistent basis.

I might concede that point if you're going to start separating Top 10 teams, but that may be splitting hairs.

We should be great next year with another shot to go back to the Dance, but it isn't going to matter if Nagy can't find a way to get Jordan Dykstra to show up for the pressure-packed games. Hopefully Jordan learns from this experience and applies it moving forward. We need his game to be complete if we are going to pull the upset.

[jackmd]

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I might concede that point if you're going to start separating Top 10 teams, but that may be splitting hairs.

We should be great next year with another shot to go back to the Dance, but it isn't going to matter if Nagy can't find a way to get Jordan Dykstra to show up for the pressure-packed games. Hopefully Jordan learns from this experience and applies it moving forward. We need his game to be complete if we are going to pull the upset.

I agree 100%. Jordan is a talented player that is going to continue to be a key for this team. He literally nearly threw away the game against WIU with multiple turnovers and that was after he jump started the offense with 3 buckets. Even an average game from him and the outcome may have been different last night.

I got berated for questioning Jordan's effort early in the season. I think I deserved it and I'm not questioning his effort now. He has the ability to play much better than he did against WIU and last night. Maybe he is banged up. Maybe its just the drag of the season. Regardless, we need him next year and whatever it takes to get him there needs to happen.

[RabbitObsessed]

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Do you really believe this? You think we can compete with Baylor, a Top 10 team, night in and night out? I'm going to call you out on this one and suggest that post in itself is a bit ignorant in terms of the "real world" of college basketball.

Look, I understand that you really love SDSU as we all do and I don't want you to take this personally, but if Baylor is playing their A game they beat us by 30 last night. Baylor did not play well (C effort at best), which kept the Jacks in the game even though the Jacks weren't exactly stellar.

I enjoyed last night for what it was: a chance for an upset. That game is the epitome of why we have a tournament instead of crowning the #1 team national champs at the end of the season. As Herm Edwards says, that's why they play the game.

However, to suggest that the Jacks can consistently compete with teams like Baylor, Duke, Kentucky, etc. on regular basis is, well, just a bit silly.

I agree. Nagy said as much in his post game interview. I think he said something along the lines of we couldn't beat Baylor by 30 but they had the capability to do that to us.

[Nidaros]

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I might concede that point if you're going to start separating Top 10 teams, but that may be splitting hairs.

We should be great next year with another shot to go back to the Dance, but it isn't going to matter if Nagy can't find a way to get Jordan Dykstra to show up for the pressure-packed games. Hopefully Jordan learns from this experience and applies it moving forward. We need his game to be complete if we are going to pull the upset.

Maybe its because we never have been there before, but both Dykstra and Wolters had the jitters and it showed at times on TruTV and often resulted in TO'S. I am confident that both will learn from this experience.

[zooropa]

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Do you really believe this? You think we can compete with Baylor, a Top 10 team, night in and night out? I'm going to call you out on this one and suggest that post in itself is a bit ignorant in terms of the "real world" of college basketball.

Look, I understand that you really love SDSU as we all do and I don't want you to take this personally, but if Baylor is playing their A game they beat us by 30 last night. Baylor did not play well (C effort at best), which kept the Jacks in the game even though the Jacks weren't exactly stellar.

1 - Baylor is not a 'Top 10' program. They're incredibly inconsistent. I don't give them good odds to beat Colorado. They are certainly not going to the Elite 8

2 - Please observe the circular nature of your logic:

"If Baylor plays to the best of their ability they beat SDSU by thirty, therefore they were not playing to the best of their ability."

[jackmd]

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We cant and the sooner the coaching staff recognizes that, the better we will be come in recruiting. I just feel we are a few years away from becoming a household name in bb, but we just are not there yet. A very good post and rep pts given.

SDSU is 5 years into DI and made the NCAA tourney in its 4th year of eligibility. SDSU is right where it needs to be. Low and mid major teams don't come into the tourney and make the sweet 16 right away. Its a process and if SDSU can demonstrate a consistency that is similar to this years team the program will excel.

Too suggest that somehow the loss last night indicates a deficiency is not right in my opinion. There is always room to improve but I think credit needs to be given where it is deserved.

[Nidaros]

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SDSU is 5 years into DI and made the NCAA tourney in its 4th year of eligibility. SDSU is right where it needs to be. Low and mid major teams don't come into the tourney and make the sweet 16 right away. Its a process and if SDSU can demonstrate a consistency that is similar to this years team the program will excel.

Too suggest that somehow the loss last night indicates a deficiency is not right in my opinion. There is always room to improve but I think credit needs to be given where it is deserved.

Okay I can accept that but we are hardly world beaters. Our coaching staff learned as much as our players from this game.

[RabbitObsessed]

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1 - Baylor is not a 'Top 10' program. They're incredibly inconsistent. I don't give them good odds to beat Colorado. They are certainly not going to the Elite 8

How can you say they are "certainly not going to the Elite 8"? They very well might not, but to say that it is certain is ridiculous. Almost nothing is certain about this tournament.

The only upset that they'd have to pull would be beating Duke and I'm not even sure if that would be much of an upset.

[rabidrabbit]

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While I don't think that SDSU will ever get 5 top-100 recruits together at one time like the top 10 teams frequently have, due to team play, the cohesiveness that Nagy demands, I do believe that Jacks could be a mid-level BCS quality team. So, yes, I could see Jacks being 4-6 vs BCS schools, but only on the road, 2-8. Problem is not enough BCS schools to Frost. Gonzaga has made the moves to get power schools on in. MTSU has done well. Oakland is playing the tough OOC, Jacks need to emulate, but with better results.

Jacks CAN compete, and become another Gonzaga, or mid-major power/contender. This would be a great goal for each year. AJ has molded such teams on the WBB side. Let's use this run to develop it on the Men's side.