Baylor

[propar80]

Re: Baylor

TruTV is 869 on Mediacom in HD(thank goodness)!!

Go Jacks!!

[Texasjeremy]

Re: Baylor

Summit is Mid-Major. Certainly not to te level of Big 12, but not as weak as some parochial Big 12 fans might think. And, ORU I beileive was one of the first teams out on the selection.

While, yes, there are 2 quality teams in the Summit League, you have to see why fans of Big 12 teams that probably haven't seen a single Summit League game (maybe ever), would look down on it.

BIG 12 RPIs
6. Kansas 27-6
8. Baylor 26-7
10. Missouri 30-4
33. Iowa State 22-10
49. Kansas State 21-10
51. Texas 20-13
122. Oklahoma State 14-18
139. Oklahoma 15-16
165. Texas A&M 14-18
240. Texas Tech 8-23
AVERAGE - 82.3

BIG 12 Strength of Schedule Rankings
10. Baylor
11. Kansas
19. Texas
29. Oklahoma State
39. Iowa State
56. Kansas State
60. Texas A&M
64. Oklahoma
69. Missouri
71. Texas Tech
AVERAGE - 42.8

SUMMIT RPIs
42. South Dakota State 25-7
48. Oral Roberts 27-6
141. Oakland 16-15
151. Western Illinois 14-14
183. North Dakota State 15-13
210. IUPUI 12-18
227. Southern Utah 12-16
267. UMKC 9-20
279. IPFW 8-19
291. South Dakota 7-18
AVERAGE - 183.9

Summit Strength of Schedule Rankings
137. Oakland
143. Western Illinois
152. IUPUI
179. South Dakota State
188. Oral Roberts
194. UMKC
205. IPFW
222. Southern Utah
228. North Dakota State
247. South Dakota
AVERAGE - 189.5

[filbert]

Re: Baylor

I have deleted several posts that referred to posts that crossed the line and/or caused others to cross the line (the original posters have themselves deleted the originating posts).

Thanks to those posters for reining it in.

Let's keep things reasonably friendly from here on out.

Carry on.

[RowdyRabbit]

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Someone who's an insider simulate the game...let us know the results...does it go so far as to show stats, or just a score?

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bask...-bracket-guide

[Nidaros]

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My predictions for this game:

1-Baylor will win. I would love to say otherwise, but we have to be heavy underdogs no matter how you slice it.

2-Wolters (and probably Dykstra) will earn the respect of knowledgeable Baylor fans.

This is about how I see it.

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

Re: Baylor

My predictions for this game:

1-Baylor will win. I would love to say otherwise, but we have to be heavy underdogs no matter how you slice it.

2-Wolters (and probably Dykstra) will earn the respect of knowledgeable Baylor fans.

[Just Glad To Be Here]

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Wish. I. Knew. How. To. Give. Rep. Points. I think my scotch came out of my nose that was so frickin' funny!

Left click on the star on the bottom left of the post...then choose positive or negative and leave a message if you choose...then click submit....

[Theee Catrabbit]

Re: Baylor

I bet you have seen everyone in person three times this year EXCEPT FOR THE COYOTES! So it is worth nothing. move on.

Wish. I. Knew. How. To. Give. Rep. Points. I think my scotch came out of my nose that was so frickin' funny!

[Just Glad To Be Here]

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Here are the Bears Rivals rankings in the Drew era...

2011 - 14th
2010 - 25th
2009 - 19th (which is deceiving, because 1 of the 6 guys never stepped foot on campus and 3 other ones have transferred out)
2008 - not ranked in the Top 30
2007 - not ranked in the Top 30
2006 - 17th
2005 - 16th
2004 - Not ranked in the Top 25
2003 - Not ranked in the Top 25

[Just Glad To Be Here]

Re: Baylor

This board's moderators are practicing banning...potential for a big day tomorrow. It's like hunting but the targets are real easy to hit.

deleted my own objectionable ones, but cadsev's are still there....I guess we will see if moderation is for all or just opponents...

[JackJD]

Re: Baylor

This board's moderators are practicing banning...potential for a big day tomorrow. It's like hunting but the targets are real easy to hit.

[JackJD]

Re: Baylor

TruTV is HD on Midco 702

[Just Glad To Be Here]

Re: Baylor

I agree that people shouldn't call a program dirty without proof. I think people can call Baylor shady after 2003, and even more how they got into the Big 12, how some of the recruits got to Baylor, how they kept PJIII after all signs pointed to him leaving. At least the question can be brought up. But to say its a known that the program is dirty prolly is a little too far.

If you really want to know...


As of today, Drew has never had a recruiting class ranked higher than 14th in the nation. That will change next year when we sign the #4 ranked class, but that will be his first ever top 10 class.

Here is a chronology of Baylor recruiting since the 03 house cleaning.

Drew was hired in 2003 (that's almost a decade ago). His classes:

2004 - Two international guys (Bruce and Diene) and Tim Bush. Not much at all.

2005 - First recruiting success. Rogers was the biggest get (#54 in the nation) who thought he could be a package deal with CJ Miles but ended up really only having G. Tech and Baylor to choose from when it was all said and done. Dugat (#74) was related to a coach and Jerrels was 3* who was only really recruited hard by Baylor. 3 good recruits who were sold immediate playing time (which they received) in the Big 12 but nothing earth shattering.

2006 - Got Tweety Carter. Baylor's first McDAA - even though he was ranked #91 in the nation per Rivals. He was undersized and really got the award as more of a lifetime achievement award for all the points he scored. Lomers (#56) was a win over A&M - no real blue bloods on him.

2007 - First top 50 recruit (after 4 years of recruiting - overnight I guess) in Lace Dunn. No one thought he would qualify and Baylor was the only the school that really recruited him hard.

2008 - Quincy Acy (#84) was thought by everybody to be reclassifying to 2009. Everyone else backed off Baylor did not and he ended up being good for 2008 - thus the June commit. Anthony Jones (#44) was a good get who Baylor had to beat out A&M for. I guess the real get in this class was Ekpe Udoh who transferred from Michigan to be closer to home, but he wasn't considered a top draft pick talent until he got to Baylor.

2009 - Cory Jefferson was the big get at #51 in the nation. Committed almost a year and a half before signing day.

So, in his first five classes Drew got zero real blue chip guys and won no recruiting battles over the big time programs. Recruited very well, but did not get elite talent. In fact, he struck out a ton of times with players he went after (J Palacios, D Arthur, B Eaton, Rashad Woods, Donald Sloan, Wil Walker, H N'Dyiae, J Wall, TMGriffin, John Henson were all linked to Baylor at some point)

2010 - First big time recruit in Perry Jones. Ended up being #9 in the nation. Of course everyone fails to mention that he committed as a freshman in 2007 before he really blew up (and grew 4"). He committed before both Anthony Jones, Quincy Acy, or Jefferson did. He stayed loyal to Drew even after his stock blew up. Of couse Baylor was in the middle of an Elite Eight run that year, so that's not a huge surprise.

[Just Glad To Be Here]

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I agree that people shouldn't call a program dirty without proof. I think people can call Baylor shady after 2003, and even more how they got into the Big 12, how some of the recruits got to Baylor, how they kept PJIII after all signs pointed to him leaving. At least the question can be brought up. But to say its a known that the program is dirty prolly is a little too far.

Baylor got into the Big XII because they were the clear choice competitively and attendance wise in football behind UT and aggy, and multiple Texas politicians (most notably Bob Bullock) thought it would be better for Texas if 4 SWC schools got in as opposed to 2.

read about Perry Jones and you will understand why he stuck to his commitment.

http://www.espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/7630611/the-story-baylor-bears-star-perry-jones-iii-men-college-basketball

[joeboo22]

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I agree that people shouldn't call a program dirty without proof. I think people can call Baylor shady after 2003, and even more how they got into the Big 12, how some of the recruits got to Baylor, how they kept PJIII after all signs pointed to him leaving. At least the question can be brought up. But to say its a known that the program is dirty prolly is a little too far.