Baylor

[JackJD]

Re: Baylor

I think I have tended to defend Baylor from time to time. I reserve the right to reverse my position...the NCAA is calling them "major violations." This should be an interesting case to follow.


Added later:

I just discovered there's a new thread "Baylor Sanctions" under the topic "College Athletics" that is covering the subject of KULaw's post and my reply. For convenience, I'll close this thread and recommend people follow the subject in the Baylor Sanctions thread.

[KUlawJack]

Re: Baylor

This may be old news, but after some Baylor fans ranted at us about their program being squeaky clean, I thought it may be relevant.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/st...ncaa-sanctions

EDIT: Additionally, based on the time frame when some of these infractions occurred, would Baylor still have been under other sanctions/probation by the NCAA from the earlier stuff? If so, it may get ugly.

Re: Baylor

Nice thanks for the correction. Baylor is the first 3 seed so maybe that has something to do with it.

7.5 thats two 3's and a wolters floater

[Theee Catrabbit]

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Its weird, I was looking back over the season stats and I had almost forgotten that Dykstra was hurt for more than a month at the beginning of the season. Somebody correct me, I know he played like 15 mins against Minnesota and Georgia, but wasn't he pretty banged up and very limited mobility? I know he basically sat out the next five games and didn't play at all at Nebraska. Makes me wonder if he was at full-strength those games how they would have played out differently.

I've thought this the whole time. I just wanted to let the "we haven't beat nobody crowd" keep on getting over confident. Of course the bigger conferences look at those schools as "nobody" anyways(rightly so). Might have gotten us a better seed though. Dykstra is good for 10-15 points you can figure it out from there......of course we laid a couple eggs with Dykstra on the floor so...you know....we really needed to win the UND and USD games. I think those two might have actually hurt us the most. Dykstra and Carlsen are the keys to this game IMO, not Nate. Naters gonna Nate, we know that, those two have to play like the sharp shooting animals they are.

[leeshajo]

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Its weird, I was looking back over the season stats and I had almost forgotten that Dykstra was hurt for more than a month at the beginning of the season. Somebody correct me, I know he played like 15 mins against Minnesota and Georgia, but wasn't he pretty banged up and very limited mobility? I know he basically sat out the next five games and didn't play at all at Nebraska. Makes me wonder if he was at full-strength those games how they would have played out differently.

[Crashola]

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It may be a waste of effort to dwell on it, but that was my 19th birthday(legal drinking age back then). The party that would have followed would have been epic, instead I was just depressed the rest of the night. It doesn't bother me either to see Jacksonville State on the losing end of a score.

Same here. I get a little smirk every time I see Jacksonville State on the losing side of a final score.

[YanktonJack7]

Re: Baylor

Point spreads for the 3/14 seeds:
Baylor by 7.5 over South Dakota State
Florida State by 6.5 over St. Bonaventure
Georgetown by 3.5 over Belmont

Marquette/BYU no line yet.

Nice thanks for the correction. Baylor is the first 3 seed so maybe that has something to do with it.

[Texasjeremy]

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This.

Also, Before the USD game, many of their "fans" said to throw records out the window because they don't mean anything. Well, it applies in this game as well. The records do not mean anything. The regular season means nothing now. All that matters is one game. And you never know what will happen until you play that game.

I know Nagy will have the guys up for this game. They have no pressure on them like they did in the Sioux Falls Arena. They aren't supposed to win this game. Baylor has all the pressure. Hopefully the Baylor players are looking ahead and forget about the Jacks. One can hope, right?

Also, for a 3-14 matchup has the line ever been 7.5-8.5 points?

Let's go Jacks. Time to shine

Point spreads for the 3/14 seeds:
Baylor by 7.5 over South Dakota State
Florida State by 6.5 over St. Bonaventure
Georgetown by 3.5 over Belmont

Marquette/BYU no line yet.

[mitchellrabbit]

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[QUOTE=Madi VMitchell;201049]

I was watching a Huskies basketball game on ESPN for the men and they were talking about bad losses and the only one up there was of course to us!

Doug Gottleib said a week or so ago that Washingtons loss to South Dakota State was a bad loss but not because SDSU isnt a good team, its a bad loss because they lost by 19 at home.

[YanktonJack7]

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So I think this whole year has been about destiny. So hear me out. I was listening to a radio interview with Nagy and he said he has only been to "The Pit" one time and that was back in 1983 for the Final Four. That year "The Pit" was witness to one of the biggest NCAA tourney upsets of all time. The University of Houston was unworldly athletic, they may have been the most athletic team to play the game. They had a nickname of Phi Slama Jama. I know of no other team that actually had a nickname. And then there was a 10 loss team in North Carolina State that everyone said did not belong in the tourney. They won the ACC tourney to get an auto bid, or else they would not have had an at large bid. The media was making the championship a formality and to just hand the trophy to Houston.

There really was no way for NC State to win that game. They were outmatched at every position. The only thing NC State had going for them is heart. They had the heart of a champion. They were also lead by a man of great character, Jimmy Valvano. Prior to the championship game, nobody really knew who Jim Valvano was, but by the time he left this world, he was known and respected by all.

I remember watching that game in my dorm room at SDSU with a group of students and we were just glued to the TV watching this underdog taking the athletic team to the wire. At the end of the game I was in shock when Lorenzo Charles grabbed that missed shot and dunked it as time was expiring. I am not sure you could have written a better ending. It was really stuff of Hoosiers on a bigger stage.

Now here we are nearly 30 years later and there are some similarities in these teams. Scott Nagy was at that game 30 years ago and I am sure that Jimmy Valvano's brother, Bob Valvano was at that game also. Bob Valvano was the announcer at the Jack's Bracket Buster game and the Summit Championship game. Bob Valvano has been an advocate for SDSU since he saw the Jacks a month ago.

I believe in destiny and I believe that something special is going to happen in "The Pit" on Thursday night. I believe that the planets are aligning and I can't wait for Thusday night.

Go State!!!
Go Jacks!!!

This.

Also, Before the USD game, many of their "fans" said to throw records out the window because they don't mean anything. Well, it applies in this game as well. The records do not mean anything. The regular season means nothing now. All that matters is one game. And you never know what will happen until you play that game.

I know Nagy will have the guys up for this game. They have no pressure on them like they did in the Sioux Falls Arena. They aren't supposed to win this game. Baylor has all the pressure. Hopefully the Baylor players are looking ahead and forget about the Jacks. One can hope, right?

Also, for a 3-14 matchup has the line ever been 7.5-8.5 points?

Let's go Jacks. Time to shine

[NorCalJack]

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So I think this whole year has been about destiny. So hear me out. I was listening to a radio interview with Nagy and he said he has only been to "The Pit" one time and that was back in 1983 for the Final Four. That year "The Pit" was witness to one of the biggest NCAA tourney upsets of all time. The University of Houston was unworldly athletic, they may have been the most athletic team to play the game. They had a nickname of Phi Slama Jama. I know of no other team that actually had a nickname. And then there was a 10 loss team in North Carolina State that everyone said did not belong in the tourney. They won the ACC tourney to get an auto bid, or else they would not have had an at large bid. The media was making the championship a formality and to just hand the trophy to Houston.

There really was no way for NC State to win that game. They were outmatched at every position. The only thing NC State had going for them is heart. They had the heart of a champion. They were also lead by a man of great character, Jimmy Valvano. Prior to the championship game, nobody really knew who Jim Valvano was, but by the time he left this world, he was known and respected by all.

I remember watching that game in my dorm room at SDSU with a group of students and we were just glued to the TV watching this underdog taking the athletic team to the wire. At the end of the game I was in shock when Lorenzo Charles grabbed that missed shot and dunked it as time was expiring. I am not sure you could have written a better ending. It was really stuff of Hoosiers on a bigger stage.

Now here we are nearly 30 years later and there are some similarities in these teams. Scott Nagy was at that game 30 years ago and I am sure that Jimmy Valvano's brother, Bob Valvano was at that game also. Bob Valvano was the announcer at the Jack's Bracket Buster game and the Summit Championship game. Bob Valvano has been an advocate for SDSU since he saw the Jacks a month ago.

I believe in destiny and I believe that something special is going to happen in "The Pit" on Thursday night. I believe that the planets are aligning and I can't wait for Thusday night.

Go State!!!
Go Jacks!!!

[joeboo22]

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I'd argue all loses are bad, and losses at home by double digits are worse, and losing by a not very close 19 is even worse. Yeah, I don't care if you lose by 19 to Kentucky at home its a bad loss if you are Washington.

[zooropa]

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And that absolutely *couldn't* have been the point of the joke I was attempting to make.

(A hint: The above sentence is sarcasm.)

Ah. Well, then my previous post was *also* a joke.

Yeah. That's right. It was a joke. That's what it was. Yeah.

[RabbitObsessed]

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Yes. Because I am *clearly* a fan of RPI, 'signature wins' and 'bad losses'.

And that absolutely *couldn't* have been the point of the joke I was attempting to make.

(A hint: The above sentence is sarcasm.)

[zooropa]

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But RPI!!!1! /zooropa

Yes. Because I am *clearly* a fan of RPI, 'signature wins' and 'bad losses'.