Another 20-win season...

[JackJD]

In the post-game interview following the UMKC win, Coach Nagy was congratulated for hitting the 20-win mark. He was pretty humble. He mentioned he didn't know
why 20 is more significant than, for example, 19 or 21 but he thanked Tyler.

Twenty-wins in a season seems to be an accepted benchmark, at least for a lot of fans. When you consider the dark days of transition, it's impressive.

Coach Nagy is in his 17th season guiding the Jackrabbits. He now claims nine 20-win seasons. All but one of the seasons in which the Jacks won fewer than 20 games were the transition years through last year (2004-05 through 2010-11). The only non-transition season in which the Jacks won fewer than 20 games was 1998-99 when the Jacks finished 17 wins 10 losses -- still a good record.

I think we're back to having to be concerned about losing the Coach to a bigger program!

[YanktonJack7]

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20 wins is nice, but I want at least 27. Winning the last four and then winning the SL tourney would do it !

[UWMandSDSU]

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Looking at our schedule here are some of the good wins and bad losses (all based on record and conference standing):

Good Wins: Mercer (leading their conference at 12-2; overall 20-7), Washington (tied for top spot in Pac 12 at 10-3; overall 17-8), Oral Roberts (leading Summit league and 23-5 overall). Buffalo could be another good win as they could win Mid-American East Division.

Bad losses: Nebraska (tied for last in Big Ten), North Dakota (11-13 overall), USD (tied for last in Summit League)

[tjbison]

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20 don't mean crap without winning the tournament

[RabbitNation]

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Thanks for the insight TJBISON!

We have progressed the last five years and are aware all that matters is that you win 3 games and make the dance no matter what your record. HOWEVER, being competitive in all your games and improving on your record gives you a better chance each year to make the step to the tournament.

It is not about wins and loses, it is about be a competitive and reecspted program that teams want to play and want to beat. Regular season does not really matter, a monkey could make this post season tournament.

Wins brings more fans and more money to the program and to the tournament, which in turns helps keep the Summit Tournament in Sioux Falls and gives us a chance to pay to bring in higher college teams into Frost Arena and be able to fund their trips.

It is always way more fun to watch a team have a chance to win night in and night out. Also, when is the last time a team won the Summit Tournament with a record of less than 20 wins? Must mean something.

Win 21 comes on Wednesday night, but if it does not happen we are still the #2 seed and you still have to return again to OUR HOUSE!

[jackmd]

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Point #1, 20 plus wins is an accomplishment but not the goal.

Point #2, you don't have to progress to a conference title, in other words, you can go from worst to first, middle of the pack to first or always contend and win, you just need to have a great tourney. When the autobid goes to the tourney winner it brings in a lot of variables and often the team that has been the best for the year doesn't win the autobid.

[jackrabit1]

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A 20-win season is a nice pat on the back...

BUT....

SDSU didn't come to Division I for "pats on the back". It came to win and make the Big Dance. And that's what they're going to do.

[Southeast]

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Going in with a tourney-or-bust attitude ("20 wins don't mean crap") is only going to lead to disappointment more years than not at this level. That's just reality in a 0ne-bid conference. You might as well enjoy the journey like we are this season. This is, afterall, entertainment for us fans.

[RowdyRabbit]

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Also, when is the last time a team won the Summit Tournament with a record of less than 20 wins? Must mean something.

Good question, one that I had to find an answer for.

If I did my very brief research correctly, the 2004-2005 Season when #7 seed Oakland (13-19) upset #1 seed Oral Roberts (25-8). 61-60 in Tulsa.

Oakland went on to win the opening round (play in?) game vs Alabama A&M 79-69, and lost in the first round to eventual champion Univ. North Carolina 96-69.

Per Page 73 of the Summit record books.

https://admin.xosn.com/fls/3900/Reco...Basketball.pdf

[filbert]

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20-game-win seasons are like milestones (or, today, mile markers). They indicate progress, but are not themselves destinations. Championships are destinations. If SDSU had the tradition of hanging banners, you could say that hanging a championship banner or a post-season tournament banner are the team goals.

But so are things like SDSU women's basketball's jaw-dropping run at or near the top of the GPA standings. That's a destination, too. It's about wins and losses, but it's not ALL about wins and losses.

[Nidaros]

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20 don't mean crap without winning the tournament

Yes it does, 20 wins this year is a high watermark for D1. Winning only 19 in 2010-2011

[tjbison]

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Yes it does, 20 wins this year is a high watermark for D1. Winning only 19 in 2010-2011

So your content with 20+ wins and to lose in the say the first round of the SL Tourney?

[KUlawJack]

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So your content with 20+ wins and to lose in the say the first round of the SL Tourney?

Pretty sure that isn't what anyone is saying. Winning 20 games is an accomplishment as Nidaros stated. However, no one has said that they are content with that. You're reading what you want into the posts rather than what is actually posted.

[Kemo]

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I am proud we got 20 wins, but I am not satisfied either.

This whole "regular season doesn't matter, all that matters is winning 3 games in the conference tournament" mantra is very silly. If you have a crappy team during the regular season, the odds are you are going to have a crappy team in the tournament.

I am well aware that it's "possible" that the 8th place team can win three games in the conference tournament and represent the league in the NCAAs, but then again 2-7 off suit can beat pocket Aces in Texas Hold'em, but you'd be considered an awful poker player if that's what you are banking on.

I like to play hands that give me the best odds of winning, and this 20 win team will be the best hand the Jacks have played in the DI Era.

[Jacks-02]

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In the last 6 seasons there have been 12 teams make it to 20 wins in the Summit League.

ORU in 2007, 2008, 2010 and 2012
IUPUI in 2007, 2008, 2010
OU in 2009, 2010, 2011
NDSU in 2009
SDSU in 2012

It is a nice accomplishment that doesn't happen all that often. It is a milestone that we've reached for the first time in DI and is something to be proud of. IMHO it would be a disappointment if it ended with anything less than a Summit League Championship game appearance for SDSU.