Naters Gonna Nate

[NorCalJack]

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So it looks like Ohio State is starting to vote again for Aaron Craft as his percentage has gone up 0.25% in the last hour. So we need to get the word out again that everyone needs to vote for Nate. I already voted 3 times today, but spread the word.

Go State!!!
Go Nate!!!

[NorCalJack]

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Here is an article from NBA.com about Nate, good story.

http://www.nba.com/2013/news/feature...ads/index.html

[RabbitNation]

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This has probably been posted but just needed a bump:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=2DylmZMmPrk

[joeboo22]

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I always hear stories of players not getting paid in Europe or the teams not treating players right. One question I do have though, is if he is signed to an NBA contract but not a first round pick, and gets assigned to the DLeague does he continue to get paid the NBA salary or does he get a new, different DLeague salary?

As long as you are under NBA contract and under their control, you get their pay. However you still have to ride the bus, and all of which is associated with the D-league. The issue is, very few teams would maintain control of a 2nd round player and have them put an extensive stay in the D-league, because it would be non-guaranteed money going to a D-leaguer.

There are issues with not getting paid in Europe, however the higher leagues tend to have less of a problem then some of the lower ones. I don't follow Euro ball much, but the little I've read it sounds like there are good leagues and bad leagues and it depends greatly on that. I have heard though that security can be a joke and safety concerns are a big problem for many players.

[witness]

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Except for a few situations, NBA minimal would pay more then Europe. However Europe pays much much more then the D-League. In the higher leagues many make $100K+ american plus everything else, but their contracts can very greatly, whether or not they have NBA out clauses, or dates, etc. I hope he makes it, and would prefer him go to the D-league if he doesn't out of camp, but could see the Euro's persuading him away.

I always hear stories of players not getting paid in Europe or the teams not treating players right. One question I do have though, is if he is signed to an NBA contract but not a first round pick, and gets assigned to the DLeague does he continue to get paid the NBA salary or does he get a new, different DLeague salary?

[joeboo22]

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Except for a few situations, NBA minimal would pay more then Europe. However Europe pays much much more then the D-League. In the higher leagues many make $100K+ american plus everything else, but their contracts can very greatly, whether or not they have NBA out clauses, or dates, etc. I hope he makes it, and would prefer him go to the D-league if he doesn't out of camp, but could see the Euro's persuading him away.

[Rabbitball]

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He is not taking Europe out of the equation, but obviously wants a shot in the league. It will be interesting to see what happens. I really hope someone takes a chance late 1st round and he gets the guaranteed $$. I know Europe sometimes gives you a place to live, car, etc on top of your salary so you have to take that into consideration.

My question is the exchange rate. He would get paid in euros right? So say he makes 200k there x 1.35 (obviously changes daily)= 270k USD. Not a bad chunk of change. Not NBA minimum but he's not eating top ramen

[joeboo22]

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It's interesting how differently analyst and scouts rank Nate. It seems as if they either love his game or written him off. Hopefully at least 2 teams have their eye on drafting Nate and know about the others' interest.

That happens with many players in NBA mock drafts, especially guards. I've seen guys as lottery picks on some mock drafts, who weren't drafted. Much of it depends on how many underclassmen declare, and the European crop (both talent and contract wise). Overall its a pretty weak top 15 NBA draft, but has a fair amount of depth.

I don't know Nate, but the thing that might hurt his NBA chances is that if he doesn't come out of training camp on a roster he will get a very lucrative European contract, and then will have to chose whether or not to take <$30K playing in the D-league or make 5X that in Europe.

[NorCalJack]

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Keep voting for Nate in the Bob Cousy award. Yesterday at this time he had 10.04% and today he has 13.80%. He is now in third place, just behind Trey Burke at 15.71%. He still has a long way to catch Aaron Craft, but Nate picked up almost 5% on Aaron yesterday. You can vote multiple times by using different e-mail addresses. I have 3 e-mails and so I voted 3 times.

Here is the link to vote

http://www.cousyaward.com/vote.php

[Kemo]

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It's interesting how differently analyst and scouts rank Nate. It seems as if they either love his game or written him off. Hopefully at least 2 teams have their eye on drafting Nate and know about the others' interest.

[witness]

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FWIW, Doug Gottleib has Nate Wolter as #21 on his Top 30 NBA prospects. http://www.cbssports.com/collegebask...tlieb/21687186

Colton Iverson sighting at #26

[bigticket1]

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As of today there are 70 rookies on NBA 15 man rosters. Not sure how many of those were drafted versus tryouts.....and who knows maybe even a few that made it from the D-League. 70 out of the 450 in the league is more than I would have quessed. I would be curious to know how many make it because GM's think they have a future and how many purely because of cap space?

That number surprises me,since only 60 players get drafted each year. The 30 first-rounders are almost a lock to get a roster spot because they have guaranteed contracts. Second-rounders don't get guaranteed $,and many of them don't stick because of that. Plus,a lot of foreign players get drafted in the second round and don't come to the US for a few years. But when they finally get to the NBA,they would still be considered rookies even if they were drafted 2 or 3 years ago. Still,70 seems like a high number - thats 2 plus rookies per team.

[NebraskaJack]

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Well summarized by Bilas. He is a "prospect" because of what he has demonstrated at the collegiate level. Is he worth a draft pick for a team so they have the first chance to try him out? That remains to be seen. He will certainly get the opportunity at the NBA level and I hope it is as a result of being drafted.

That said, only 60 players go in the draft. I have no idea what percentage typically make an opening day roster. The turnover in the NBA is tremendous. I also don't have any idea how many players typically "try out" for teams each year. The draft use to be 10 rounds or more but that limited players too much and now only 2 rounds and 60 players are limited to try outs with the team that drafted them.

So, will some team feel like Nate fits their scheme and has enough talent to expend one of the limited number of draft picks they get? Time will tell. He is obviously making an impression that seems worthy of the opportunity but it is about a lot more than that.

As of today there are 70 rookies on NBA 15 man rosters. Not sure how many of those were drafted versus tryouts.....and who knows maybe even a few that made it from the D-League. 70 out of the 450 in the league is more than I would have quessed. I would be curious to know how many make it because GM's think they have a future and how many purely because of cap space?

[jackmd]

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If South Dakota State senior guard Nate Wolters wasn't on the radar of NBA teams before last week, his 53-point explosion last week is sure to have changed that. What are Wolters' chances of sticking in the league, and who does he compare to in the NBA? Lets take a look.

Not only did Wolters pour in 53 against IPFW, including nine 3-pointers, he followed it up with a 36-point outing against Oakland on Saturday. Both games came on the road, making it all the more amazing.

While the 6-foot-4, 190-pound point guard currently comes in at No. 95 on Chad Ford's Big Board, own Jay Bilas writes today that he could very well have a future in the league.

Jay Bilas

Well summarized by Bilas. He is a "prospect" because of what he has demonstrated at the collegiate level. Is he worth a draft pick for a team so they have the first chance to try him out? That remains to be seen. He will certainly get the opportunity at the NBA level and I hope it is as a result of being drafted.

That said, only 60 players go in the draft. I have no idea what percentage typically make an opening day roster. The turnover in the NBA is tremendous. I also don't have any idea how many players typically "try out" for teams each year. The draft use to be 10 rounds or more but that limited players too much and now only 2 rounds and 60 players are limited to try outs with the team that drafted them.

So, will some team feel like Nate fits their scheme and has enough talent to expend one of the limited number of draft picks they get? Time will tell. He is obviously making an impression that seems worthy of the opportunity but it is about a lot more than that.

[HoboJack]

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Thanks, Witness!