2010 Football Recruiting List

[joeboo22]

Re: 2010 Football Recruiting List

recruiting news can only be made official from the recruit not the coaches but coaches can make really big hints, however in basketball coaches can make bigger hints at who they are because the numbers are so much smaller...

Also in football since there is no early signing day and because there is a level difference between us and the big shots there is no unofficial rule about recruiting kids who already made a verbal, in basketball there is more of a general unwritten rule where you don't actively recruit kids who have already verballed....

This year it seems that based on the fact that the instate recruits and general recruiting area being down, added with playoffs, and higher name recognition, with fewer long term holes and more of a need for JuCo's.... that this years recruiting class will be different then others...

The one ? I do have is can the coaches comment on JuCo's as soon as they are enrolled? I think you have until the following week or so to enroll so just because a JuCo isn't their on Wednesday doesn't mean for sure he isn't coming....

[sdjackfan40]

Re: 2010 Football Recruiting List

recruiting news can only be made official from the recruit not the coaches but coaches can make really big hints, however in basketball coaches can make bigger hints at who they are because the numbers are so much smaller...

Also in football since there is no early signing day and because there is a level difference between us and the big shots there is no unofficial rule about recruiting kids who already made a verbal, in basketball there is more of a general unwritten rule where you don't actively recruit kids who have already verballed....

This year it seems that based on the fact that the instate recruits and general recruiting area being down, added with playoffs, and higher name recognition, with fewer long term holes and more of a need for JuCo's.... that this years recruiting class will be different then others...

The one ? I do have is can the coaches comment on JuCo's as soon as they are enrolled? I think you have until the following week or so to enroll so just because a JuCo isn't their on Wednesday doesn't mean for sure he isn't coming....

Coaches can comment on players once they have enrolled.

[MikeHenriksen]

Re: 2010 Football Recruiting List

I had a thought on recruiting and the whole verbal thing. Does anybody know how this information gets out? Coaches can't talk about players until signing day, right? or is that just for basketball?

Does it go something like:

Recruit or recruits high school coach or family member contacts local media, local media reports verbals as they get wind of them. Signing day, all signed recruits are announced to the media via press release.

Anyway, we are recruiting all over the place, in addition to getting some pretty good local talent. Is it possible these recruits or their reps are just not contacting the Argus? Or is it possible that the coaches are telling recruits who have verballed not to talk to the media, only to have blockbuster announcements and huge hype come signing day (which is pretty close to the start of season ticket sales, I think)? Could this be a new strategy to increase season ticket sales in a year when the home schedule is less than stellar? If it is a new strategy, could AD Sell have something to do with it? Does UNI do anything like this? Looking at panthernation.com, they don't seem to have more than a handful of verbals right now either... unless I'm reading something wrong.

How does this process work exactly?

..and don't forget about the SF kid that announced his verbal to the Argus even though the school was not recruiting him!

[mitchell]

Re: 2010 Football Recruiting List

Added another prospect to the list,

CB Brendan Murphy
5'9" 162 Scottsdale, AZ

Listed as visiting SDSU on the 15th

http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73...=1&nid=4346956

[mitchell]

Re: 2010 Football Recruiting List

An article about Brendan

http://www.azprospects.com/2009/10/0...rendan-murphy/

Best Kept Secret in Arizona? Chapparall’s Brendan Murphy

Says his recruiting was hurt by transferring schools after his Junior year and tore his hamstring after his Junior year. Navy and Ivy schools are recruiting him and he supposedly ran 4.3 40 his Junior year.


Video of Murphy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9IMsM2PAOU

[Jacks-02]

Re: 2010 Football Recruiting List

An article about Brendan

http://www.azprospects.com/2009/10/0...rendan-murphy/

Best Kept Secret in Arizona? Chapparall’s Brendan Murphy

Says his recruiting was hurt by transferring schools after his Junior year and tore his hamstring after his Junior year. Navy and Ivy schools are recruiting him and he supposedly ran 4.3 40 his Junior year.


Video of Murphy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9IMsM2PAOU

WOW! That kid's got some wheels! He'd look great as a Jack!

[Nidaros]

Re: 2010 Football Recruiting List

DOUBLE WOW!! In the intro of the u tube it says he has an act 27 and 4.0gpa. Sign now son.

[SpeedRabbit]

Re: 2010 Football Recruiting List

An article about Brendan

http://www.azprospects.com/2009/10/0...rendan-murphy/

Best Kept Secret in Arizona? Chapparall’s Brendan Murphy

Says his recruiting was hurt by transferring schools after his Junior year and tore his hamstring after his Junior year. Navy and Ivy schools are recruiting him and he supposedly ran 4.3 40 his Junior year.


Video of Murphy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9IMsM2PAOU

4.3 seconds???? That is highly unlikely Thats as fast as the tailback from the Tennessee Titans

[mitchell]

Re: 2010 Football Recruiting List

4.3 seconds???? That is highly unlikely Thats as fast as the tailback from the Tennessee Titans

From the article:

Prior to his injury, rumors have it he ran in 4.3s for the 40 at Red Mountain.

I agree that there is probably more "rumor" than fact in that 40 time. You won't find too many high school juniors who run in the 4.3's and aren't going to a BCS school.

[SpeedRabbit]

Re: 2010 Football Recruiting List

From the article:

Prior to his injury, rumors have it he ran in 4.3s for the 40 at Red Mountain.

I agree that their is probably more "rumor" than fact in that time. You won't find too many high school juniors who run in the 4.3's and aren't going to a BCS school.

Agreed- 4.3 is so fast. Carry that kind of speed to the football field and we're talking something very special

[Kemo]

Re: 2010 Football Recruiting List

When taking into account 40 yard dash times, be aware that these 40's are generally track times (which is a faster surface than grass/turf), ran without pads or football equipment (some players can run a 4.3 without pads, but only run like 4.5's with pads, while others lose hardly any speed when adding pads), and the faster times are almost always clocked by a person rather than a machine (machines haven't become popular due to the fact that they almost always time the player slower than a person would).

[mitchell]

Re: 2010 Football Recruiting List

When taking into account 40 yard dash times, be aware that these 40's are generally track times (which is a faster surface than grass/turf), ran without pads or football equipment (some players can run a 4.3 without pads, but only run like 4.5's with pads, while others lose hardly any speed when adding pads), and the faster times are almost always clocked by a person rather than a machine (machines haven't become popular due to the fact that they almost always time the player slower than a person would).

I've always wondered why they don't record football players speed numbers while they are wearing their pads. It would make sense at the combines to have the player do the shuttle runs and 40 times in full pads so they can get an accurate on the field time.

It doesn't matter much if a 5-8 175 lb running back runs a 4.3, because of his size he'll probably loose more speed than a 5-10 210 running back when they put the pads on.

[jackrabbit1979]

Re: 2010 Football Recruiting List

4.3 seconds???? That is highly unlikely Thats as fast as the tailback from the Tennessee Titans

I'm more interested in the fact that he consistently ran down ball carriers from behind (without angles, from across the field) in his highlight video rather than his reported 40 time. That should tell you that the kid is fast in pads on the football field.

[SpeedRabbit]

Re: 2010 Football Recruiting List

When taking into account 40 yard dash times, be aware that these 40's are generally track times (which is a faster surface than grass/turf), ran without pads or football equipment (some players can run a 4.3 without pads, but only run like 4.5's with pads, while others lose hardly any speed when adding pads), and the faster times are almost always clocked by a person rather than a machine (machines haven't become popular due to the fact that they almost always time the player slower than a person would).

IMO all 40 yard dashes are timed without pads on.

[Kemo]

Re: 2010 Football Recruiting List

IMO all 40 yard dashes are timed without pads on.

Correct! I was not saying they were, but rather implying that some players aren't nearly as fast on the football field (when wearing pads) as they are on the track (no pads), while others stay pretty close to their 40 time on the football field.