GDT: @ North Dakota State (12/21/24) ***FCS Championship, Semi-Finals***

[jbjack]

We can keep co-oc’s but Olson needs to focus on the line and be on the field. Fruend can be in the booth calling plays.

Olson has no sense of rhythm. He put Mark is bad spots all year. Time and time Mark would make a great throw, just to have Olson bring Chase in on the next play for a 2 yard run. Tough to get in a rhythm as a QB with that sort of playcalling.

This. Olson is a great line coach but the play calling was predictable and unimaginative. And the line play seemed to suffer. Run blocking was pretty good (not today). But pass blocking was suspect all year. Let Olson run the line and let someone else call plays.

[goon]

The issue with the play calling reminded me years ago. The same plays, nothing new. To beat ndsu or win it all you have to have something new. A wrinkle or new look. I thought that was the plan for Chase but they kept him with the ball. A jump pass ornplay action or something. But no. He he had the ball the defense knew he was keeping it. After a while they figure that out.

This game, and this season seemed like fumbles were just worse then normal. Like RBs and both QBs. With out looking at stats just seems like that had to be the most we have had in years. Just seems like with Zenner ans Strong and Davis we rarely had fumbles. This year it was like a theme sadly.

Well we had a fun run. Go cats. Ugh.

time to regroup for next year and enjoy the basketball season for awhile.

[jakejc795]

I doubt he was approached from what I've heard but that doesn't mean he didn't want the job. When he went toJSD, Jimmy allegedly said he wouldn't take him back.

They had Lujan when Davis left, and it's been publicly reported that Stig encouraged Davis to take the USD gig, so your source is maintaining that a lateral move (in terms of pay and job title, not necessarily playoff prospects) was proposed to allow Davis to return basically one year after he left the Jacks?

[jakejc795]

Excellent article by Zim focusing on gratitude for Gronowski.

I'm definitely grateful he and the Jacks' paths crossed and he returned this season.

[jakejc795]

I'll try to avoid too much of a rant, but I hope Jacks can avoid trying to slay the "playoff win in Fargo" dragon and focus on getting homefield in playoffs into perpetuity.

Seems like there's always at least 1-2 plays during games in that northern hellscape that involve minimal camera angles, obscured views, etc.

Let's start working to ensure 10/25 is as Bison fan free as we can make it next season, and as goon said, Go 'cats

[Cowbell]

A shoutout to the defense. The much-heralded freshman and Jerry Rice award winner, CharMar Brown, was held to just 23 yards rushing. He had 33 yards in our October game.

[jakejc795]

A shoutout to the defense. The much-heralded freshman and Jerry Rice award winner, CharMar Brown, was held to just 23 yards rushing. He had 33 yards in our October game.

Bock, Francl, Mcgaughy, and Humphrey stood out, and Beanum had WRs relatively contained before injury. Bock finished 30 tackles shu of eclipsing Rose oom's career tackles record c

Hopefully next season has Prejean on PR/KR.

[jbjack]

They had Lujan when Davis left, and it's been publicly reported that Stig encouraged Davis to take the USD gig, so your source is maintaining that a lateral move (in terms of pay and job title, not necessarily playoff prospects) was proposed to allow Davis to return basically one year after he left the Jacks?

How'd you get that out of my post?

[jakejc795]

How'd you get that out of my post?

Got what?

I'm pointing out the sequence of Davis and Lujan's departures, and you're alluding to some alleged opposition to ever considering Davis when maybe the overarching factor for Rogers was that approaching/considering Davis then, essentially one year after leaving, could leave Jacks vulnerable to Davis "job hopping" a year later, but he may be more amenable now (assuming Davis would even want to return).

[jbjack]

Got what?

I'm pointing out the sequence of Davis and Lujan's departures, and you're alluding to some alleged opposition to ever considering Davis when maybe the overarching factor for Rogers was that approaching/considering Davis then, essentially one year after leaving, could leave Jacks vulnerable to Davis "job hopping" a year later, but he may be more amenable now (assuming Davis would even want to return).

Your talking about a hypothetical consideration (job hopping). I'm talking about a sourced averrment, for what it's worth, which seems to be common knowledge, that Jimmy would not consider Davis for OC after Lujan left, not a lateral re-hire. When Davis left, Jimmy was already H.C., and while Stig might have encouraged Davis to take the job, it doesn't mean Jimmy was happy about or downright pissed.

[jakejc795]

Your talking about a hypothetical consideration (job hopping). I'm talking about a sourced averrment, for what it's worth, which seems to be common knowledge, that Jimmy would not consider Davis for OC after Lujan left, not a lateral re-hire. When Davis left, Jimmy was already H.C., and while Stig might have encouraged Davis to take the job, it doesn't mean Jimmy was happy about or downright pissed.

I missed the post where the unnamed source indicated Davis would never be considered versus that he wasn't going to be considered then. Circumstances obviously change. Lujan's departure was one domino to fall. Davis receiving that Jones family funding/endowment was another. Freund being hired was another.

I tend to think Freund taking over is the most likely option, similar to move Jacks made from when Rogers and Bergstrom were co-DCs.

[jbjack]

I missed the post where the unnamed source indicated Davis would never be considered versus that he wasn't going to be considered then. Circumstances obviously change. Lujan's departure was one domino to fall. Davis receiving that Jones family funding/endowment was another. Freund being hired was another.

I tend to think Freund taking over is the most likely option, similar to move Jacks made from when Rogers and Bergstrom were co-DCs.

I think this will be a big test for Jimmy. Is it fair to demote Olson after one year? Can be get better? Would Jimmy demote an SDSU guy? Or does loyalty blind and bind him?

[jakejc795]

I think this will be a big test for Jimmy. Is it fair to demote Olson after one year? Can be get better? Would Jimmy demote an SDSU guy? Or does loyalty blind and bind him?

It doesn't necessarily have to be a demotion. One up the 'Yotes and have a legacy donor fund Olson as the OL coach, framing that as investing in a historical positional asset involving multiple draft picks/UDFAs.

Freund was already OC in a system/offense that may be similar to what Jacks have planned for Mason, was a QB himself, and has recruited QBs in this region and conference. Olson can focus on stabilizing interior of OL, particularly after loss of Miller.

Freund never lost his co-OC title, so Jimmy could say that the coaching structure is adapting to accommodate new QB and evolving team/OL needs.

[NCJack]

Everyone on staff new Lujan would have a short stay as OC. Jimmy told JD that he would get the job after Lujan left. JD wasn’t willing to wait and took the opportunity at USD. It’s hard to blame him and any non jackrabbit would say it was a great move and a successful one.
However, part of that conversation was also if you take a USD, you are never coming back to SDSU while I’m here.
it is what it is. Did I like the play calling and offensive productive this year? No. Would JD have done better? We will never know.
whatever happens, we will need to be better next year. I think it starts at TE next year as many QBs seem to really rely on them as an outlet.

We never got the TEs consistently involved, never established a wr2. KP had a lot of hype coming off the spring game and it seemed like we never gave him a chance. USD did a really good job of utilizing all their skills- both backs, Bell, TE and their really skilled gadget guys.

But ultimately NDSU turned the tide and beat us starting up front. They got pressure with their front four and we did not.

[jbjack]

It doesn't necessarily have to be a demotion. One up the 'Yotes and have a legacy donor fund Olson as the OL coach, framing that as investing in a historical positional asset involving multiple draft picks/UDFAs.

Freund was already OC in a system/offense that may be similar to what Jacks have planned for Mason, was a QB himself, and has recruited QBs in this region and conference. Olson can focus on stabilizing interior of OL, particularly after loss of Miller.

Freund never lost his co-OC title, so Jimmy could say that the coaching structure is adapting to accommodate new QB and evolving team/OL needs.

I wonder how many OC's, at the DI and pro level, were offensive linemen themselves and worked their way up from OL coach to be the primary play caller? I'm not suggesting that it can't work, but it seems to me the development of an o-lineman and OL coach are less about the whole scheme and more focused, missing the bigger picture. I know there is a philosophy among some HCs that the OC should also be or have been the QB coach. Maybe Olson can grow in the role but I'd rather have an experienced play caller take the reigns, particularly with a new QB coming in.