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  • #76
    Thanks for posting this. Right now I like where State is in this ranking and Massey.

    If the team takes care of business they are sitting well with 3 seed at a minimum, on opposite side of the bracket from NDSU ( expecting NDSU to also take care of business). That also puts SDSU on the same side of the bracket as MSU. MSU is a run first team with the QB in planned rushes. Against the SDSU defense they play into the team's strength. If MSU doesn't take care of business State is 2 seed with home games for the playoffs and no matchup with NDSU until Frisco. Now if USD trips up NDSU ... .
    You know that you're over the hill when your mind makes a promise that your body can't fill. - L. George

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Prairiehaas View Post
      Thanks for posting this. Right now I like where State is in this ranking and Massey.

      If the team takes care of business they are sitting well with 3 seed at a minimum, on opposite side of the bracket from NDSU ( expecting NDSU to also take care of business). That also puts SDSU on the same side of the bracket as MSU. MSU is a run first team with the QB in planned rushes. Against the SDSU defense theyplayinto the team's strength. If MSU doesn't take care of business State is 2 seed with home games for the playoffs and no matchup with NDSU until Frisco. Now if USD trips up NDSU ... .
      If this involves a loss to UCD, it's likely UCD becomes the 2nd seed, unless Davis loses to Sac State

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      • #78
        Perhaps not. State has a better strength of schedule, better win margins over inferior opponents, one more win over then ranked opponents and a higher power ratings. UCD will have one more win against FCS teams as State played Augie. I think though the other factors will make up for that with the committee, unless UCD wins BIG vs MSU. I could be wrong, just what I think.

        And actually, USD may have a better chance of beating NDSU than UCD has of beating MSU. Wouldn't that shake things up?
        You know that you're over the hill when your mind makes a promise that your body can't fill. - L. George

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        • #79
          filbert, need an official ruling:
          Am I risking a ban if I favor one team over the other in the USD v. UND game? [Go Hawks! Go Yotes?] ...My guess: nah,
          How about the USD hosting NDSU game? [Go Yotes! Go Bison?]
          Last edited by JackJD; 11-10-2024, 11:25 PM.

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          • #80
            Here are the top 15 Massey rankings for games through 11/9/24.

            NDSU
            SDSU
            Montana State
            USD
            UC Davis
            Idaho
            Missouri State
            Montana
            Delaware
            Mercer
            Villanova
            Incarnate Word
            Illinois State
            Rhode Island
            Tennessee - Martin

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Prairiehaas View Post
              Perhaps not. State has a better strength of schedule, better win margins over inferior opponents, one more win over then ranked opponents and a higher power ratings. UCD will have one more win against FCS teams as State played Augie. I think though the other factors will make up for that with the committee, unless UCD wins BIG vs MSU. I could be wrong, just what I think.

              And actually, USD may have a better chance of beating NDSU than UCD has of beating MSU. Wouldn't that shake things up?
              Guess we'll see. I think the committee would like to see change at the top, and I'll be rooting for Bears and UCD this week and 'Yotes, Grizz, and Sac State next week.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by jakejc795 View Post

                Guess we'll see. I think the committee would like to see change at the top, and I'll be rooting for Bears and UCD this week and 'Yotes, Grizz, and Sac State next week.
                It would be a seismic shift if all of those come through! Put $20 on that as a parley. A win would put you in SDSU ice cream for a long, long time.
                You know that you're over the hill when your mind makes a promise that your body can't fill. - L. George

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Prairiehaas View Post

                  It would be a seismic shift if all of those come through! Put $20 on that as a parley. A win would put you in SDSU ice cream for a long, long time.
                  Or the gambling habit would have me slinking around Dairy Bar dumpsters scraping out the spent containers to feed my ice cream habit

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                  • #84
                    SAGARIN through November 16, 2024. Below is the listing of the top 10 FCS teams within the entire universe of D-1, FBS and FCS.

                    Note Sagarin’s computer gave a big boost to NDSU for its win at Missouri State, place the Bison just behind SDSU.

                    http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm

                    Columns, left to right, :Overall Sagarin D1 ranking; School; last week's Sagarin rank...

                    40 SDSU (38)
                    41 NDSU (55)
                    70 Montana State (66)
                    72 USD (69)
                    95 UC-Davis (95)
                    112 Montana (109)
                    113 Incarnate Word (113)
                    116 Missouri State (108)
                    122 Idaho (123)
                    123 Illinois State (?)



                    Sagarin also lists the D1 schools by conference. Here’s the latest (November 16) for the MVFC.
                    40 South Dakota State
                    41 North Dakota State
                    72 South Dakota
                    123 Illinois State
                    124 North Dakota
                    157 Southern Illinois
                    167 Youngstown State
                    183 Northern Iowa
                    201 Indiana State
                    228 Murray State



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                    • #85
                      Here's the FCS Coaches Poll published at NCAA.com for games through 11/17/24:

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                      1 North Dakota State (23) 10-1 647 1
                      2 Montana State (3) 11-0 623 2
                      3 South Dakota State 9-2 601 3
                      4 South Dakota 8-2 544 5
                      5 UC Davis 9-2 529 4
                      6 UIW 9-2 515 6
                      7 Richmond 9-2 490 7
                      8 Idaho 8-3 435 10
                      9 Mercer 9-2 428 9
                      10 Montana 8-3 392 11
                      11 Southeast Missouri State 9-2 386 13
                      12 ACU 8-3 356 15
                      13 Illinois State 8-3 317 16
                      14 Villanova 8-3 290 8
                      15 Rhode Island 9-2 288 18
                      16 Tarleton State 8-3 244 12
                      17 Jackson State 9-2 237 20
                      18 Missouri State 8-3 221 14
                      19 Duquesne 8-2 178 21
                      20 Stony Brook 8-3 139 17
                      T- 21 Harvard 8-1 130 22
                      T- 21 South Carolina State 8-2 130 23
                      23 Butler 9-2 65 T-25
                      24 UT Martin 7-4 63 19
                      25 Tennessee State 8-3 52 NR
                      Others Receiving Votes: Northern Arizona, 41; North Carolina Central, 32; William & Mary, 29; Drake, 10; Southeastern Louisiana, 8; Eastern Kentucky, 7; New Hampshire, 7; Chattanooga, 5; Southern Utah, 4; Dartmouth, 3; North Dakota, 3; Central Arkansas, 1.

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                      • #86
                        Here's the FCS Stats Perform Poll for games through 11/17/24:

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                        1 North Dakota State (41) 10-1 1385 1
                        2 Montana State (15) 11-0 1356 2
                        3 South Dakota State 9-2 1290 3
                        4 South Dakota 8-2 1189 5
                        5 UC Davis 9-2 1165 4
                        6 UIW 9-2 1086 6
                        7 Idaho 8-3 1022 8
                        8 Mercer 9-2 1002 7
                        9 Montana 8-3 903 10
                        10 Richmond 9-2 880 11
                        11 Abilene Christian 8-3 846 14
                        12 Southeast Missouri State 9-2 799 12
                        13 Rhode Island 9-2 754 15
                        14 Illinois State 8-3 624 17
                        15 Villanova 8-3 620 9
                        16 Tarleton State 8-3 585 13
                        17 Harvard 8-1 431 20
                        18 Stony Brook 8-3 343 16
                        19 Duquesne 8-2 285 22
                        20 Jackson State 9-2 271 23
                        21 Northern Arizona 7-4 266 25
                        22 UT Martin 7-4 192 18
                        23 South Carolina State 8-2 182 NR
                        24 New Hampshire 7-4 173 NR
                        25 Eastern Kentucky 7-4 167 NR
                        Others Receiving Votes (schools listed on two or more ballots): Tennessee State 97; William & Mary 69; North Carolina Central 56; Southern Utah 38; Southeastern Louisiana 28; Chattanooga 24; Western Carolina 21; Central Arkansas 19; ETSU10; Tennessee Tech 8; Lehigh 6; Drake 5

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                        • #87
                          Butler at 23 in the Coaches poll? Snicker.
                          You know that you're over the hill when your mind makes a promise that your body can't fill. - L. George

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Prairiehaas View Post
                            Butler at 23 in the Coaches poll? Snicker.
                            With the exception of likely Vandals trip to Brookings, I'm not a fan of Sam Herder's most recent bracket.

                            Not surprisingly, Butler's absent from that, but I also don't see 'cats losing to underdog to ensure Jacks would get another home game

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                            • #89
                              I don't see SD-U beating NDSU either. I have no expectations of a semi-final home game this year. Then again, should the mangy ones pull off an upset ...

                              I do expect SDSU will beat MSU in a semi-final in Bozeman. IMHO, Frisco will be an XDSU party in January.
                              You know that you're over the hill when your mind makes a promise that your body can't fill. - L. George

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                              • #90
                                Massey Composite SDS, MTS, NDS, SD, ID, UCD, MT and IW

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