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  • jbjack
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    Originally posted by jakejc795 View Post

    do you extend that "free to quit" rationale to players in the portal who had prior offers to come here but chose to attend other schools?
    Huh?

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  • jakejc795
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    Originally posted by jbjack View Post

    If it's a players' reunion organized by former players the former players are certainly free to invite whoever they want. But if it's University programming what obligation does the university have to former students, especially those who leave for other university athletic programs? I think the message it sends to recruits is that you're free to quit on SDSU and SDSU is free to quit on you. If Tucker Large wants to be in a hall of fame or recognized at his Aalma mater, he's chosen WSU as his alma mater.
    He spent multiple years here. Again, I'm disappointed he left, but do you extend that "free to quit" rationale to players in the portal who had prior offers to come here but chose to attend other schools?

    I have no idea what they were being told to get them there, but Large made plays and played through some injuries for the Jacks. Will I be focusing on him or any of the other former players who transferred to WSU? Not really, and I definitely won't focus on them nearly as much as the ones who stayed or are transferring in.

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  • jbjack
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    Originally posted by jakejc795 View Post

    I'm certainly disappointed, even angry at some folks' actions, but shouldn't the team leaders be the ones who decide the players that'd be invited back?

    If it's the university making the determination, I'm not sure that exclusionary message is what we want to send to recruits either.
    If it's a players' reunion organized by former players the former players are certainly free to invite whoever they want. But if it's University programming what obligation does the university have to former students, especially those who leave for other university athletic programs? I think the message it sends to recruits is that you're free to quit on SDSU and SDSU is free to quit on you. If Tucker Large wants to be in a hall of fame or recognized at his Aalma mater, he's chosen WSU as his alma mater.

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  • jakejc795
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    Originally posted by bigticket1 View Post

    Here's some comments from a JFPA member about how this topic might be looked at. http://www.x.com/ThatFritzDude/statu...30553560752148 Not sure who would be included in making those decisions down the road.
    Maybe donating to JFPA/collective would be one factor

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  • bigticket1
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    Originally posted by jakejc795 View Post

    I'm certainly disappointed, even angry at some folks' actions, but shouldn't the team leaders be the ones who decide the players that'd be invited back?

    If it's the university making the determination, I'm not sure that exclusionary message is what we want to send to recruits either.
    Here's some comments from a JFPA member about how this topic might be looked at. http://www.x.com/ThatFritzDude/statu...30553560752148 Not sure who would be included in making those decisions down the road. I think these comments were more about involvement in JFPA.

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  • jakejc795
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    Originally posted by jbjack View Post

    I completely understand a recruit following the coaching staff when the staff en mass moves to another school, although I'd sure hope those kids took time to evaluate if WSU was really right for them. I can get grad transfers getting a little antsy to move on after being on campus 4 or 5 years but still wanting to play. I can see guys like Tucker Kraft wanting to prove themselves at a *cough, cough* higher level. But if you want to prove yourself at a higher level, taking the safe route by following your coaching staff doesn't prove anything. If you believe in yourself and want to prove yourself at a higher level, go somewhere that truly is a higher level and where you will have to prove yourself.

    I don't buy the whole "Once a Jackrabbit, always a Jackrabbit" bit. If you fulfilled your end of the bargain and left Brookings with a degree and are now an alumni of SDSU, that's a Jackrabbit in my book. But we shouldn't celebrate quitters. Guys like Angel Johnson and Tucker Large can "go home" to Pullman for post-career accolades. Frankly, those guys quit on SDSU and someday when when the '22 and '23 teams are invited back to Brookings, the guys that quit on SDSU without degrees should not be invited back.
    I'm certainly disappointed, even angry at some folks' actions, but shouldn't the team leaders be the ones who decide the players that'd be invited back?

    If it's the university making the determination, I'm not sure that exclusionary message is what we want to send to recruits either.

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  • jbjack
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    Originally posted by HoboJack View Post

    Looking at the list on JI for players heading for WSU, there are 4 listed as grad transfers, 2 seniors (Large and Angel Johnson), 0 juniors, 1 sophomore (Kirby Vorhees - Florida), and a bunch of redshirt freshman (most of which where not from the local area). There are seven total players that have been on campus for a full year. That tells me that most of our older players are bought in to the community and school.

    I’ve chosen to view this as the ones that were willing to leave were not going to be the type of leaders we want for the next class of players anyway. I’ll miss some of their skills as players - leadership qualities- not so much.

    The decimation of basically 2 full recruiting classes will be a hurdle for the new staff to overcome, but the culture is still good. 19 of the 27 players are on the defensive side of the ball. Depth and special teams may be a challenge until we can recover.


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    I completely understand a recruit following the coaching staff when the staff en mass moves to another school, although I'd sure hope those kids took time to evaluate if WSU was really right for them. I can get grad transfers getting a little antsy to move on after being on campus 4 or 5 years but still wanting to play. I can see guys like Tucker Kraft wanting to prove themselves at a *cough, cough* higher level. But if you want to prove yourself at a higher level, taking the safe route by following your coaching staff doesn't prove anything. If you believe in yourself and want to prove yourself at a higher level, go somewhere that truly is a higher level and where you will have to prove yourself.

    I don't buy the whole "Once a Jackrabbit, always a Jackrabbit" bit. If you fulfilled your end of the bargain and left Brookings with a degree and are now an alumni of SDSU, that's a Jackrabbit in my book. But we shouldn't celebrate quitters. Guys like Angel Johnson and Tucker Large can "go home" to Pullman for post-career accolades. Frankly, those guys quit on SDSU and someday when when the '22 and '23 teams are invited back to Brookings, the guys that quit on SDSU without degrees should not be invited back.

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  • peavy
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    Originally posted by Jackrabbit2012 View Post

    I agree. I know you can never have too many Offensive Lineman, but I feel really good about that area of our recruiting class. I hope we can land Reggie Kloehn (DL) and Casey Larson (LB). Both appear to be high level recruits that would fill some voids we have due to the WSU departures. Both were committed to Dan at Idaho.
    Kloehn verbal

    Originally posted by peavy View Post

    WR Joseph Kolega 6'1" 185lb Omaha, NE
    Offers: USF, Wayne, State, Missouri Western State, Dordt, Mount Marty, Morningside,
    Kolega verballed - JI twitter link has some nebraska stats -> "The Jacks add the #1 WR in Nebraska. Had a MONSTER senior season and was named the class B POY. 82 Receptions (Class B State Record) 1,634 Rec Yds (All-Class State Record) 20 Rec TDs (Class B State Record)"


    latest verbal
    QB Preston Otter 6'4" 205lb Saginaw, MI -> flipped him from Brown Bears. This article says he commited to Brown 7/4/25
    Offers: Brown, Dayton per 247, MIT, Hillside, Saginaw Valley State, John Carroll, Wayne State.
    Valedictorian at Nouvel Catholic Central. He did a year of post grad at Phillips Exeter Academy (presumably for better offers)

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  • AZjack
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    Rogers now seems just at sleazy as Cignetti, I could see him wearing out his welcome with boosters and admin quickly at some place other than SDSU.

    He better win. Winning cures all ills.

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  • witness
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    How much do you think Jimmy Rodgers mentioned James Madison and Indiana when recruiting SDSU players and commits to Washington State? I would bet a lot

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  • Jacked_Up
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    I see that the Jimmy Rogers' poach count has reached 30 SDSU players and recruits, according to Jackrabbit Illustrated. (Ten other SDSU players are going elsewhere.) If and when Rogers starts seriously recruiting the Washington State area and the rest of the United States, football prospects and their parents would be wise to be skeptical about anything he says.

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  • JackJD
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    Originally posted by salemjack View Post

    NW MO State has a pretty good program don’t they?
    Overall history in D2 athletics is pretty good but last season in football, their record was 6-5. The program that made a lot of news was men's basketball under Coach Ben McCollum. [Thread-spread warning: McCollum's record through 2023-24 season was 394-91. Lots of FBS schools had tried to hire him away but he had not shown much interest in moving...until April of 2024 when Drake U lost their coach and they talked McCollum into taking over the Bulldog program. McCollum is a Storm Lake, IA native...apparently Drake's offer to bring him to his home state struck the right nerve. Drake has had a great men's basketball season -- currently 17-2 and on a five-game win streak.** They've been ranked although Drake doesn't appear in the top 25 right now. In the College-Insider Mid-Major ranking, Drake is #4. (And that scrappy St. Thomas bunch is #19 while the Jackrabbit men are in the "getting votes" group].

    **Excuse for knowing about Drake -- little brother is Drake grad, whose wife from the same hometown as McCollum. Little brother refuses to discuss football with me.

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  • salemjack
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    Originally posted by peavy View Post
    verbal from
    OL Landyn Lewerke 6'3" 280lb Clear Lake, IA
    flipped from NW Mo State
    NW MO State has a pretty good program don’t they?

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  • bigticket1
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    Originally posted by peavy View Post
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    OL Landyn Lewerke 6'3" 280lb Clear Lake, IA
    flipped from NW Mo State
    Looks like he also had a Winona State offer, so Bergy probably is familiar with him.

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  • peavy
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    verbal from
    OL Landyn Lewerke 6'3" 280lb Clear Lake, IA
    flipped from NW Mo State

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