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  • filbert
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    Re: GDT: @ Misery State Bears

    Originally posted by WestSideRabbit View Post
    We gave up 20 first half points in the first half on defense, entirely too much to Missouri State. The long TD run had Stacker totally displaced and pushed out and the OLB bit inside and Ballster got caught out of position. You can say in the photo below that Ballster is pointing left clearly biting the wrong direction. Rozeboom was a step late and got caught in the wash a little bit. Soulek was there but it would have been a big play. Seeing a DT totally get blown up and shoved outside is really concerning at this stage of the season. Also seeing a veteran safety totally fooled is a bad sign. Our LBs have to be damn near perfect with the lack of production out of our defensive line. If you want to watch the replay of this play, it is at the 55:25 mark.



    Another MSU first half score was setup when MSU got Earl in the slot matched-up against Zy and hit it for a 44 yard gain. Zy has improved alot in year 2 but Malik Earl will win that match-up more times then not.

    I thought we looked a lot better in the second half, giving up 3 points. On the long run by the QB, we had an OLB and a safety take the same gap leaving one wide open.

    The first half issue is entirely physical and I'm concerned about that. The second half big run is a mistake by two inexperienced players. Chalk that one up to a learning moment, fortunately it came in a game where the outcome was already decided.
    Outside of the two long runs we still gave up 105 yards on 32 attempts which is a 3.28ypc average. Not great, not terrible.
    Photobucket is not being your friend, Westside. I get a "please update your account to enable 3rd party hosting" message where I think you want a picture to be.

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  • WestSideRabbit
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    Re: GDT: @ Misery State Bears

    Originally posted by CappinHard View Post
    Yes, but you shouldn't give up that many points to Missouri State, whether you're playing an aggressive defensive style or not.
    We gave up 20 first half points in the first half on defense, entirely too much to Missouri State. The long TD run had Hildahl totally displaced and pushed out and the OLB bit inside and Ballster got caught out of position. You can say in the photo below that Ballster is pointing left clearly biting the wrong direction. Rozeboom was a step late and got caught in the wash a little bit. Soulek was there but it would have been a big play. Seeing a DT totally get blown up and shoved outside is really concerning at this stage of the season. Also seeing a veteran safety totally fooled is a bad sign. Our LBs have to be damn near perfect with the lack of production out of our defensive line. If you want to watch the replay of this play, it is at the 55:25 mark and can be watched for free on ESPN3.



    Another MSU first half score was setup when MSU got Earl in the slot matched-up against Zy and hit it for a 44 yard gain. Zy has improved alot in year 2 but Malik Earl will win that match-up more times then not.

    I thought we looked a lot better in the second half, giving up 3 points. On the long run by the QB, we had an OLB and a safety take the same gap leaving one wide open.

    The first half issue is entirely physical and I'm concerned about that. The second half big run is a mistake by two inexperienced players. Chalk that one up to a learning moment, fortunately it came in a game where the outcome was already decided.
    Outside of the two long runs we still gave up 105 yards on 32 attempts which is a 3.28ypc average. Not great, not terrible.
    Last edited by WestSideRabbit; 10-23-2017, 08:48 AM.

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  • CappinHard
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    Re: GDT: @ Misery State Bears

    Originally posted by goon View Post
    Wasn't that wasnt sort of happened Saturday? Gave up some big plays.
    Yes, but you shouldn't give up that many points to Missouri State, whether you're playing an aggressive defensive style or not.

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  • goon
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    Re: GDT: @ Misery State Bears

    Originally posted by thumper_76 View Post
    I would gladly trade getting gashed for some big plays and TDs for some sacks, INTs, and quick 3 and outs.


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    Wasn't that wasnt sort of happened Saturday? Gave up some big plays.

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  • thumper_76
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    Re: GDT: @ Misery State Bears

    Originally posted by jakejc795 View Post
    The inexperience you reference is one reason they may be keeping things simple, rightly or wrongly. As for having nothing to lose, said inexperience can leave defense susceptible to big plays if "green" defenders are out of position on a blitz, etc.
    I would gladly trade getting gashed for some big plays and TDs for some sacks, INTs, and quick 3 and outs.


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  • jakejc795
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    Re: GDT: @ Misery State Bears

    Originally posted by Hareofthedog View Post
    I think many fans thought the defense would be young, inexperienced and probably not great this year. What I didn’t expect is playing a vanilla defense, non aggressive, read defense week after week. The defense has nothing to lose by changing things up to try and play better, confuse opposing offense or mixing up blitzes for pressure this year. I don’t buy into status quo unless it’s pretty good results and right now the defense struggles for many reasons.
    The inexperience you reference is one reason they may be keeping things simple, rightly or wrongly. As for having nothing to lose, said inexperience can leave defense susceptible to big plays if "green" defenders are out of position on a blitz, etc.

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  • jakejc795
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    Re: GDT: @ Misery State Bears

    Originally posted by NWHSUandSDSU View Post
    One thought may be due to depth considering only so many players can travel. Perhaps with backhaus being out that they needed more linebacker depth for the game and he was out 1st half anyways with enough safeties dresses for the whole fame.
    Matt Zimmer mentioned in today's SDSU notebook that Slade's return also played a role in Farina not making the trip

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  • thumper_76
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    Re: GDT: @ Misery State Bears

    Originally posted by Hareofthedog View Post
    I think many fans thought the defense would be young, inexperienced and probably not great this year. What I didn’t expect is playing a vanilla defense, non aggressive, read defense week after week. The defense has nothing to lose by changing things up to try and play better, confuse opposing offense or mixing up blitzes for pressure this year. I don’t buy into status quo unless it’s pretty good results and right now the defense struggles for many reasons.
    Yeah, I don’t understand why we do t take some chances and play aggressively, but we haven’t done that ever really though so I don’t know why I’m waiting for it to happen.


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  • Hareofthedog
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    Re: GDT: @ Misery State Bears

    I think many fans thought the defense would be young, inexperienced and probably not great this year. What I didn’t expect is playing a vanilla defense, non aggressive, read defense week after week. The defense has nothing to lose by changing things up to try and play better, confuse opposing offense or mixing up blitzes for pressure this year. I don’t buy into status quo unless it’s pretty good results and right now the defense struggles for many reasons.

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  • Jackbacker123
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    Re: GDT: @ Misery State Bears

    Originally posted by NWHSUandSDSU View Post
    One thought may be due to depth considering only so many players can travel. Perhaps with backhaus being out that they needed more linebacker depth for the game and he was out 1st half anyways with enough safeties dresses for the whole fame.
    I think that is exactly why but isn't odd that he wouldn't at least travel and not dress?

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  • NWHSUandSDSU
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    Re: GDT: @ Misery State Bears

    Originally posted by Jackbacker123 View Post
    I was wondering the same thing. I believe Backhaus made the trip and they knew he wasn't going to play.
    One thought may be due to depth considering only so many players can travel. Perhaps with backhaus being out that they needed more linebacker depth for the game and he was out 1st half anyways with enough safeties dresses for the whole fame.

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  • Jackbacker123
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    Re: GDT: @ Misery State Bears

    Originally posted by westernjack View Post
    Still wondering why Farina didn't make the trip. I understand he would have had to sit out the first half, but just seems odd that a starting senior wouldn't even make the trip with the team
    I was wondering the same thing. I believe Backhaus made the trip and they knew he wasn't going to play.

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  • westernjack
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    Still wondering why Farina didn't make the trip. I understand he would have had to sit out the first half, but just seems odd that a starting senior wouldn't even make the trip with the team

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  • SoDakJack
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    Re: GDT: @ Misery State Bears

    Originally posted by Southeast View Post
    At this point of the season you pretty much "are what you are" and we're below average defensively. It's a good thing Goedert had a breakout game because we're going to need all the offense we can get in the brutal homestretch of this season. I think we're going to have to average 35+ points over the next four games to have a shot at the playoffs.
    The frustrating part is that this offense should be able to put up those numbers, but for whatever reason they just can't execute against a good team. Maybe it is the fact the TC isn't running as much, maybe it is the injuries to Jake and Dallas, or maybe it is the game plan.

    This year I knew I would be worried about the defense and I was prepared for that. The lack of execution on the other side of the ball is what has upset me.

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  • Southeast
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    Re: GDT: @ Misery State Bears

    At this point of the season you pretty much "are what you are" and we're below average defensively. It's a good thing Goedert had a breakout game because we're going to need all the offense we can get in the brutal homestretch of this season. I think we're going to have to average 35+ points over the next four games to have a shot at the playoffs.

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