Beef Bowl GDT vs. Cal Poly

[RabbitObsessed]

Re: Beef Bowl GDT vs. Cal Poly

Well, I don't get to sit in Mom's basement and watch sports all day for one. And I expect upperclassmen to be leaders and coaches to have teams prepared. Lastly, I will happy be the voice opposed to mediocrity. If that becomes my gig, so be it. If you want to log in and defend what we watched last night, so be it.

Thanks for the new signature!

[jackdaniel]

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Defensive thoughts.
The DEs are very thin and second team players are not making plays. How about moving D Cox to DE? He makes a ton of plays on special teams. How about moving C Lang to DE? He could be the strong side end with his size and it seems his motor runs on every play. Making changes at this position for depth is necessary.

I've always thought our defense is a little light,but the pat answer is they favor speed over weight,which I fully understand, but we need at least the LB's that are both physically strong and can carry some weight to shed a block faster, and yet have some speed to cover the scrimmage line sideline to sideline (not necessarily the Pro's size ,but pretty close).

I understand they are hard to recruit, but not impossible either.They plug the holes.To me, runs are contained by the front four and the three linebackers mainly.The other four think pass first and run containment second,and definately are taken out of most run plays by design.This to me is a recruiting problem ,not a player problem,try going up against bigger ,stronger players who are just as quick and fast as you are and try to stop the run,they are handed an uphill battle in that situation and sometimes it's too much to overcome.No one goes out onto a field to lose,so you can't blame the players all the time.Other things must be considered too.

The defense is only as good as it's physical limitations, it's preparedness for the game and the confidence instilled to acheive victory, and willingness to give it your best as a player. Obviously one , or more , of these isn't working.Some games the opponent is just too good period ,that's the physical limitation part,in which case the players and the coaching staff are really blameless,and a loss occurs,but this can't be the explanation we want to accept too many times,obviously.

[JackFan96]

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Your last post before this was during the Denver game in the SL tourney when you were ****ting on the heart and commitment of our players. Why do you only come out when SDSU is doing poorly?

Well, I don't get to sit in Mom's basement and watch sports all day for one. And I expect upperclassmen to be leaders and coaches to have teams prepared. Lastly, I will happy be the voice opposed to mediocrity. If that becomes my gig, so be it. If you want to log in and defend what we watched last night, so be it.

[slosho]

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I noticed it last year, and it's held true this year: when Wieneke comes out of the game, we run the ball without fail. We never pass when he comes off the field. Wanna bet that opposing DCs have noticed that pattern? Doesn't mean we don't run when he's on the field, but we ALWAYS run when he comes off.

Watch for it next game.

I'm of the firm belief that issues like this are why we don't 1.)Go further into the playoffs 2.)lose games we shouldn't 3.)lose to NDSU as many times as we have when even USD and Mo. State have beaten them. Something they feel the need to point out during basketball games.

[RabbitObsessed]

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Question?
Why does Weineke come out so often in the game? He catches a 12 yard pass and comes out. Unless he is hurt the offensive needs the playmakers in the game whether you use him or not on the next play. He is not running fly patterns each play. Often, Goedert and Weineke come out of the game together. Why take your two offensive threats out together? Defenses love when these two guys come out of the game. I am confused on that logic. Yes they need a break but the timing seems odd most of the time.

I noticed it last year, and it's held true this year: when Wieneke comes out of the game, we run the ball without fail. We never pass when he comes off the field. Wanna bet that opposing DCs have noticed that pattern? Doesn't mean we don't run when he's on the field, but we ALWAYS run when he comes off.

Watch for it next game.

[thumper_76]

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Really hope you're kidding with that last statement. Can't really tell though.....

Not kidding

I let this lie because of the game happening right after, but do you think that everyone should be assigned a UPD officer as well? Just because you don't drink doesn't mean you get to dictate how others live their lives, fun fact. Stay up in your box if you think it's that awful.

[Hareofthedog]

Re: Beef Bowl GDT vs. Cal Poly

Defensive thoughts.
The DEs are very thin and second team players are not making plays. How about moving D Cox to DE? He makes a ton of plays on special teams. How about moving C Lang to DE? He could be the strong side end with his size and it seems his motor runs on every play. Making changes at this position for depth is necessary.

[Hareofthedog]

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SDSU football season begins now. Win the MVFC games and you can accomplish football goals. Go Jacks!

[RochJack69]

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We fans knew coming into the season that the O-line was suspect because of injuries and departures and that it needed to be restocked. The O-line played OK against Cal Poly, though. We thought the D-line was going to be a team strength in talent and depth. That hasn't been the case yet, so the D-line is the real disappointment. But this team could improve and do a lot of damage in the conference. Let's get off the ledge.

Maybe they over-bulked themselves.

[Jacked_Up]

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We fans knew coming into the season that the O-line was suspect because of injuries and departures and that it needed to be restocked. The O-line played OK against Cal Poly, though. We thought the D-line was going to be a team strength in talent and depth. That hasn't been the case yet, so the D-line is the real disappointment. But this team could improve and do a lot of damage in the conference. Let's get off the ledge.

[Hareofthedog]

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The offense is ok. The Oline plays well until the opponent starts blitzing and that is difficult for all offenses. The Qb has 2-3 seconds to get rid of the ball on blitzes. Qb must read and anticape blitzes and call audibles. The five step drop back will not work unless it is a screen during a blitz.

The main reason the Goedert and Weineke get the ball is Oline blocking and Qb releasing the ball on time or sooner when blitzed Go talk to coaches and offensive players instead of blaming the Oline for every offensive issue as a fan and you will hear the truth about the Oline play instead of guessing. Scoring points is what the offense does as a group, it takes all. All fans would immediately take 31 points in any game and expect to win.

Question?
Why does Weineke come out so often in the game? He catches a 12 yard pass and comes out. Unless he is hurt the offensive needs the playmakers in the game whether you use him or not on the next play. He is not running fly patterns each play. Often, Goedert and Weineke come out of the game together. Why take your two offensive threats out together? Defenses love when these two guys come out of the game. I am confused on that logic. Yes they need a break but the timing seems odd most of the time.

[Hareofthedog]

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The defense is bad and has been for three games. The comments that the defense is the strength of this team is totally inaccurate as stated during spring practice and fall camp. The defensive coaches and players need to look in the mirror and find some answers to the problems. Defense is not that good right now and better coaching, preparation and execute during the game must happen or changes need to be done. The defensive tackles spend too many plays two to five yards downfield, the wrong direction. This means no tackles in the backfield and LBs getting caught in the pile and not making tackles. Get in the backfield two to five yards, the right direction.

why are the two starting defensive tackles rotated out so many times during the game? No other college teams rotate defensive tackles like SDSU and play the full game. Who came up with this concept? There is a dropoff in talent going to the second tackles. Play your starters until they need out!

[Reality]

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It appeared to me as the players played tight last night. And from the interviews all week, I suspect that was partly related to the concern the coaches had with Cal Poly ability. The coaches were correct in being concerned, but it would be good to see them instill some confidence in the players by having clearer schemes and making adjustments. We didn't appear to make any adjustments on defense and seemed to sit in what became our base for the evening. The base defense worked the first series and that was about it. Let the players react to the situation and play. They need to be energized and confident on the field with both their assignment and the scheme.

[da_coach]

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I was worried about this game. That triple option was impressive. And their multiple blitzes kept the O off balance.

This loss does not surprise me.

Also, Cal Poly was good last night.

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[Nidaros]

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Why not? Hunt down Ralph Ginn's playbook, maybe.

Yah why not.