Lujan or Christion?

[goon]

Re: Lujon or Christion?

He put up those stats against Kansas, SUU, and RMU... most teams played a tougher FBS school, and probably for the most part tougher OOC games. Don't fall into the Big Sky way of thinking and say "look at these qb stats!!!!!"... We were pass heavy in those games, and the stats match that. You're assuming TC or most other QBs wouldn't have done just as well. I look at Lujan's actual ability when I compare the two, you can look at previous stats all you want, but we don't have the luxury to compare previous stats in this situation, and when it comes to ability, TC has the clear edge, and that's who we should go with. This is what every other football team in the nation does, why should we be any different? Because we are loyal to starters that shouldn't lose their jobs due to injury? If that's the case, then we are destined for eternal failure (never winning a championship). Look at the high performing teams like Alabama and NDSU (I know, dumb to mention them in the same breath, but I'm just making a point), they play the most talented players that they have available, and they succeed.

OK. well Lujan won at UNI last year, Sumner never won there, I dont think Berry ever did either. Sumner never beat NDSU, and ZZ never did either. The only game we were upset in last year I think was Youngstown beating us but Lujan did really well. Maybe my eyes are bad but ISUb looked like the worst team we have played so far this year. RM defense was much better, Kasnas was an unknown and still webeat an FBS school with Lujan at the helm. SUU was looking to get us back. SUU is doing pretty well since we steam rolled them. RM has some tough luck losses this year. Frankly I dont know if its that clear to me. He is more atheltic, but knowing the playbook, game mangement, etc count for something and those all favor Lujan. even if you dont like stats, Lujan stats are pretty impressive. He doesnt get rattled in the pocket, he prolongs the play long enough to give them a change, he usually puts the ball in good position for the WR to catch and make the play. I think if we play TC we will have more growing pains as a team, right now we are in a great position to get a top 8 seed and we have never been there before. People are asking a lot of a true freshman who barely played as a senior to beat youngstown, UNI, ISUr and a USD team who would love nothing more then to ruin our season or affect our seeding. Fans always think a back up comes in and is the 2nd coming of christ, Remember Matt Flynn. Anyway I dont get paid to make the choices so I guess I will cheer who ever is in there but I dont see why Lujan should lose his job when he has played really well all season.

[CappinHard]

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Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Carson Wentz sitting behind Brock Jensen?

I would argue that at that time Jensen was more talented than Wentz. Also, he had won 2 national championships at that time. Lujan doesn't have near that resume.

[CappinHard]

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Fans always think a back up comes in and is the 2nd coming of christ, Remember Matt Flynn.

Lujan was the backup last year. Just because there was a lapse between our "franchise quarterbacks", he becomes the starter that shouldn't lose his job? I don't think so. He's a backup qb.

[goon]

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Lujan was the backup last year. Just because there was a lapse between our "franchise quarterbacks", he becomes the starter that shouldn't lose his job? I don't think so. He's a backup qb.

And he was the starter this year. He didnt win the starting job by default. He earned it. Not saying TC couldnt have grown in that time to push him or improve obviously, This is more an issue the coaches didnt trust Douglas to win us a game, or Lujan is more injured then they let on. If douglas is a capable back up no way TC gets in. Just remember how fans fell inlove with TOB and thought he was the next great thing too. hopefully TC is, but hype and actually doing it are 2 different things.

[CappinHard]

Re: Lujon or Christion?

And he was the starter this year. He didnt win the starting job by default. He earned it. Not saying TC couldnt have grown in that time to push him or improve obviously, This is more an issue the coaches didnt trust Douglas to win us a game, or Lujan is more injured then they let on. If douglas is a capable back up no way TC gets in. Just remember how fans fell inlove with TOB and thought he was the next great thing too. hopefully TC is, but hype and actually doing it are 2 different things.

Please stop comparing TC to TOB... Check out these two links. One of these things is not like the other.

http://sports.yahoo.com/footballrecr...39;Brien-65519

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/footbal...ristion-153155

[Jackedforlife]

Re: Lujon or Christion?

I believe whatever transpires both Zach and TC are good for each other. I'm all for TC because of the skill set he brings. Zach, from what I can tell is an excellent young man and a great mentor. Stig said it was Lujan who told Taryn he was starting. Great leader, I see him getting in to the coaching side when he is finished. Smart kid, who understands and communicates well with others. If he becomes the backup, I don't see him hanging his head. He'll continue to compete and add what he can to help the others improve.

[MontanaRabbit]

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Please stop comparing TC to TOB... Check out these two links. One of these things is not like the other.

http://sports.yahoo.com/footballrecr...39;Brien-65519

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/footbal...ristion-153155

One is a QB and one is an athlete?

[goon]

Re: Lujon or Christion?

Please stop comparing TC to TOB... Check out these two links. One of these things is not like the other.

http://sports.yahoo.com/footballrecr...39;Brien-65519

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/footbal...ristion-153155

Did I compare the 2? I must have missed where i said that.

[WestSideRabbit]

Re: Lujon or Christion?

What a good problem to have two quality quarterbacks to choose from! None of us have any clue what is actually going to happen. Heck, last week Jimmy Jack had info from an assistant coach that said no way were they going to start TC. None of us really have a clue and Stig seems to be pretty quiet on all of this not wanting to tip off YSU.

[CappinHard]

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Did I compare the 2? I must have missed where i said that.

You said "Just remember how fans fell inlove with TOB and thought he was the next great thing too.", so you were comparing the situations, saying they were similar. The situations (and players) are both completely different.

[RabbitObsessed]

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I'm excited to save all of these posts and revisit them in two years.

[UWMandSDSU]

Re: Lujon or Christion?

I'm excited to save all of these posts and revisit them in two years.

Make sure you are sitting down (or standing, whichever you prefer) when you revisit them.

[mango4]

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You know what I would do if I was head coach (yeah, I know, thankfully I'm not) I would do something similar to what Brian Kelly did with Everett Golson and Tommy Rees when Notre Dame made it to the BS championship. It's clear that Taryn has more talent and athleticism (just like Golson) than Zach but Zach has more experience (just like Rees). Let Taryn play but if it comes down to the final drive, let Zach engineer the drive.

[West-River_Jack]

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I am glad the decision is not mine to make. I will cheer, ln a somewhat subdued fashion, generally from a sitting position, for whoever (or is it whomever ) plays.

[RowdyRabbit]

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Four years ago I wanted Gandy to start over Zenner, therefore I`m going to stay out of the Lujan vs Christion debate.