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  • UWMandSDSU
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    Originally posted by Mr_Tibbs View Post
    According to the TSU website, the game is in Brookings on 11/14/20, meaning that Ficie State must have been rescheduled or bought out. We were set to play DSU on 11/14, so that game appears to have been replaced with Tarleton.
    Dixie St is now 10/2/21. Or were they scheduled for two home games already?

    11 games schedules completed through 2022 season. Each season w/ 6 home games.

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  • filbert
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    I had no idea who Tarleton State was so I consulted the Intertubes . . . the Texans (aayup, Texans) are reclassing to D-I and FCS, going into the WAC and FCS independent.

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  • 2002jack
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    Originally posted by UWMandSDSU View Post
    Tartleton State on 2020 schedule. Is this another 12 game schedule year or are they taking the place of Dixie St?

    https://twitter.com/TarletonSports/s...64902817267714
    That’s going to be a tough draw? Maybe 2,000?

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  • goon
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    Originally posted by Mr_Tibbs View Post
    According to the TSU website, the game is in Brookings on 11/14/20, meaning that Ficie State must have been rescheduled or bought out. We were set to play DSU on 11/14, so that game appears to have been replaced with Tarleton.
    Just play a double header then you can have a 12 game schedule with them.

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  • Mr_Tibbs
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    Originally posted by UWMandSDSU View Post
    Tartleton State on 2020 schedule. Is this another 12 game schedule year or are they taking the place of Dixie St?

    https://twitter.com/TarletonSports/s...64902817267714
    According to the TSU website, the game is in Brookings on 11/14/20, meaning that Ficie State must have been rescheduled or bought out. We were set to play DSU on 11/14, so that game appears to have been replaced with Tarleton.

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  • UWMandSDSU
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    Tartleton State on 2020 schedule. Is this another 12 game schedule year or are they taking the place of Dixie St?

    https://twitter.com/TarletonSports/s...64902817267714

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  • JACKGUYII
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    Our margin for error in seeding is small with NDSU's consistent run. No problem with FBS on the road and two cupcakes at home before a tough conference schedule.

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  • JimmieTuba
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    Originally posted by Mr_Tibbs View Post

    Even year: 1 FBS, 1 good FCS home game, 1 home cupcake (6 home games)
    Odd year: 2 home cupcakes, 1 good road FCS game (6 home games, no FBS)
    My concern is how does this help our seeding at the end of the year? I understand the want to have better games to watch. However, if NDSU continues their run and the Jacks can't manage a #2 seed, it is all a bit moot in the long run.

    Or, Stig needs to learn how to win on the road deep in the playoffs, that fixes things too.

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  • Nidaros
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    I dont think it is a matter of trading this opponent for that opponent. We lucky to get what we can. If we can get 6 home games more power to the scheduling staff. Our choices are often limited.

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  • goon
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    Originally posted by 91jack View Post
    Yes! I was going to go back and change it. I'd rather see the good home game than worry about losing it. I actually think we should have more of them instead of this many cupcake games. If we have one cupcake game a year (which is what we normally have for an 11 game season) that is enough or too many already. I'm almost in the camp that even if you only have 5 home games every 3 years or so, it's worth it to have good games at home.

    This years home games would have been a Big Sky FCS team and a cupcake. That makes it only one home cupcake game. I can handle that. That would mean you have a good non-conference game at home. Of course, the only way we could schedule this game is because we had a 12 game season. We got two home games against Drake because we had a 12 game season so we could justify playing them on the road.
    I am totally good with us going on the road to drake also. Honor the 2 for 1 year we had. It would have been a rather easy road win and I think its important to hold up our contracts with smaller schools like that. not just buy them out like many schools do. But since drake wanted to play in brookings apparently its hard to turn down another home game so that skews the OOC home games schedule.

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  • 91jack
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    Originally posted by goon View Post
    If we cant beat a good OOC team at home consistently then it doesn't really matter as far as seeding goes. Its good to test your self but also give your self some games like drake or a cupcake too.

    also I would be instead of a FBS, since we had an FBS game this year I don't mind our OOC games, but if we didn't have the gophers it would have been nice to get a consistently better program to come to Brookings, and I don't care if its a home and away contract say with Montana state to make that happen.
    Yes! I was going to go back and change it. I'd rather see the good home game than worry about losing it. I actually think we should have more of them instead of this many cupcake games. If we have one cupcake game a year (which is what we normally have for an 11 game season) that is enough or too many already. I'm almost in the camp that even if you only have 5 home games every 3 years or so, it's worth it to have good games at home.

    This years home games would have been a Big Sky FCS team and a cupcake. That makes it only one home cupcake game. I can handle that. That would mean you have a good non-conference game at home. Of course, the only way we could schedule this game is because we had a 12 game season. We got two home games against Drake because we had a 12 game season so we could justify playing them on the road.

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  • goon
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    Originally posted by 91jack View Post
    We just better make sure you win that "good home FCS" game because its you lose that and the FBS game it won't give you much room for error. Of course, they would be quality losses for you were a bubble team.
    If we cant beat a good OOC team at home consistently then it doesn't really matter as far as seeding goes. Its good to test your self but also give your self some games like drake or a cupcake too.

    also I would be instead of a FBS, since we had an FBS game this year I don't mind our OOC games, but if we didn't have the gophers it would have been nice to get a consistently better program to come to Brookings, and I don't care if its a home and away contract say with Montana state to make that happen.

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  • 91jack
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    Originally posted by goon View Post
    I would make that deal. I think getting a good home fcs school would help playoff seeding more then a loss to an fbs school.
    We just better make sure you win that "good home FCS" game because its you lose that and the FBS game it won't give you much room for error. Of course, they would be quality losses for you were a bubble team.

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  • 91jack
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    Originally posted by Mr_Tibbs View Post
    Just want to get up on a soapbox and complain about our OOC schedules for the next several years. Our non-FBS OOC between 2020 and 2022 consists of Dixie State twice( an LIU-style move up that we'll play in mid November next year), Butler twice, Delaware State (a really bad HBCU), and Cal Davis, which is a good opponent (or hopefully will still be a good opponent in 2022). We don't have a Big Sky team on the schedule again for the '20 and '21 season, which is disappointing. I also don't like the late Dixie State game, but I get it.

    I understand that the desire to have 6 home games every year means buying some pretty bad OOC opponents, but it's just disappointing that we don't have an NAU/Montana/MSU/Southland/OVC team on the schedule for the next twould seasons.

    I get the need for 6 home games, the need for FBS games, and the benefit of cupcakes, but what are people's thoughts on the following scheduling philosophy:

    Even year: 1 FBS, 1 good FCS home game, 1 home cupcake (6 home games)
    Odd year: 2 home cupcakes, 1 good road FCS game (6 home games, no FBS)

    What I'm asking is, would you be willing to trade an FBS game every other year if it meant we always had a quality FCS team* on the schedule and could still maintain 6 home games? I'm not sure I would because I love the Power 5 games (and obviously they're financially beneficial), but I hate seeing an FCS OOC Schedule consisting of Dixie and Butler in the same season.

    ***I realize that getting good OOC games, especially played in Brookings, is tough. Scheduling is tough, so this is assuming a hypothetical scenario where we could actually get these games scheduled with regularity. Would you sacrifice an FBS game in odd years?
    I like the idea of playing a good FCS home game but I don't see it happening.

    Odd year: You will be paying both of your home cupcakes to come to Brookings to play since there will not be a return game. The good road FCS game will not be a money game. That will be the second half of the home and away contract. SDSU will not only lose their $400,000+ for their FBS game but they will have to pay two teams to come to Brookings. I would assume that at some point several other teams will be looking for home patsies to pad their record so they can make the playoff, too. That will make to two cupcake game cost more.

    Even year: I do like this though. You get the FBS money game, a solid FCS team to come to Bookings and a home cupcake game.

    If SDSU was a NDSU. Montana or something like that they could afford this but SDSU can't right now.

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  • goon
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    Originally posted by Mr_Tibbs View Post
    Just want to get up on a soapbox and complain about our OOC schedules for the next several years. Our non-FBS OOC between 2020 and 2022 consists of Dixie State twice( an LIU-style move up that we'll play in mid November next year), Butler twice, Delaware State (a really bad HBCU), and Cal Davis, which is a good opponent (or hopefully will still be a good opponent in 2022). We don't have a Big Sky team on the schedule again for the '20 and '21 season, which is disappointing. I also don't like the late Dixie State game, but I get it.

    I understand that the desire to have 6 home games every year means buying some pretty bad OOC opponents, but it's just disappointing that we don't have an NAU/Montana/MSU/Southland/OVC team on the schedule for the next twould seasons.

    I get the need for 6 home games, the need for FBS games, and the benefit of cupcakes, but what are people's thoughts on the following scheduling philosophy:

    Even year: 1 FBS, 1 good FCS home game, 1 home cupcake (6 home games)
    Odd year: 2 home cupcakes, 1 good road FCS game (6 home games, no FBS)

    What I'm asking is, would you be willing to trade an FBS game every other year if it meant we always had a quality FCS team* on the schedule and could still maintain 6 home games? I'm not sure I would because I love the Power 5 games (and obviously they're financially beneficial), but I hate seeing an FCS OOC Schedule consisting of Dixie and Butler in the same season.

    ***I realize that getting good OOC games, especially played in Brookings, is tough. Scheduling is tough, so this is assuming a hypothetical scenario where we could actually get these games scheduled with regularity. Would you sacrifice an FBS game in odd years?
    I would make that deal. I think getting a good home fcs school would help playoff seeding more then a loss to an fbs school.

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