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  • #91
    Re: UC-Davis Game Day Thread

    Other food for thought:

    We seem to have a momentum type of running game, where a guy needs to approach 10 carries to get going.
    However, in the Kansas game, on his first seven carries, he went for -1, 1, 99, 2, 4, -1, 3. He had one carry for over 5 yards, and two 1 yard or less. His next 5 carries went for 9, 8, 5, 2, 5.
    At SELU, he went 10, 6, 2, 2, 5, 6, -1, 4, 2, 2, 4, 3, 4 (4 YPC). His next 6 carries went for 9, 9, 9, 4, 5, 13.
    Against Cal Davis, he went 7, 6, 7, -1, 0, 4, 5 (4 YPC). Then he went for 31, 9, 4, 5, 3, 61.

    For whatever reason, our running game seems to be optimized when a back gets around 25 carries. Give Zenner 25 carries every game, he might go for 150 every game. Give him 15 carries, and he might go for 60 (just like last year).

    IMO, for our running game to be successful our starting running back needs to get at least 20 carries a week. Is that a reasonable number to do without risking injury?
    “I used to be with it. But then they changed what it was. Now what I’m with isn’t it, and what’s it seems scary and wierd. It’ll happen to you.” — Abe Simpson

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    • #92
      Re: UC-Davis Game Day Thread

      Originally posted by witness View Post
      I wonder if Dom Wright is worried about getting hit that he doesn't see where he's at or does he just have trouble feeling where he's at in the field. And honestly this should not even be happening, and I'm guessing he caught punts during high school so I have no idea why he struggles with punts or knowing where he's at on the field
      bottom line- u either get the job done or you don't! This is a guess and a guess only so please no one become unglued by this statement but MAYBE just MAYBE he's a high scholarship player and when a lot of $ is invested in a player they want to get results from the player??? I'm not saying that coaches think this way but I'm just throwing it out there..

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      • #93
        Re: UC-Davis Game Day Thread

        In regards to Gandy's performance so far... from what I've seen on the net and heard on the radio (and I wasn't able to attend Sat's game), pretty much every time he's gotten the ball he's been leveled. One of the hits last week, Tyler M. made a comment that Gandy was lucky to hold on to the ball as he got lit up the moment he got the handoff. Can't see how that's his fault.

        Also, and this is just human nature, not condoning it, but there could be a bit of a letdown in the O line when Zenner goes out. But it has been mentioned nearly every time Gandy has gotten a hand off, that he's "hit right at the line of scrimmage". And that doesn't happen to Zach every play. Sometimes it does, and Zach breaks the tackle...but they are different styles of runners. I still think Gandy has great potential.

        The defense is really showing something. Starting a couple redshirt freshmen, and others contributing. And we don't have to blitz much, because the front four are doing a nice job of penetrating. But I know we're blitzing more than 3 times a game when our redshirt freshman middle linebacker gets four sacks. This defense could be special.

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        • #94
          Re: UC-Davis Game Day Thread

          I don't consider red shirt freshman behind a sophomore as great depth. Same at the receiver position. It doesn't mean the guy that are there aren't capable, I just think most of the other teams we compete against have more depth in these positions. I don't have the time to back my statement up with fact and my observations may be completely false, I can handle that.
          We are here to add what we can to life, not get what we can from life. -Sir William Osler

          We do not see things as they are, we see things as we are.

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          • #95
            Re: UC-Davis Game Day Thread

            Originally posted by jackmd View Post
            I don't consider red shirt freshman behind a sophomore as great depth. Same at the receiver position. It doesn't mean the guy that are there aren't capable, I just think most of the other teams we compete against have more depth in these positions. I don't have the time to back my statement up with fact and my observations may be completely false, I can handle that.
            I can respect that. I would agree that we don't have great depth, but we aren't exactly 1 deep either. Frankly, I don't care if a kid is a true freshman or a sixth year senior, if they are able to play. Would it be great to have Senior-Junior-Sophomore-RsFr at every position? Absolutely. Unfortunately, I don't think that's very realistic. I would be willing to guess that there are multiple teams we will play that would kill for our depth at O-Line, we might like to have their depth at running back. Toe-May-Toe, Toe-Mah-Toe.

            To be fair, we lost at least one upperclassmen running back in part (I'm guessing) because he saw the writing on the wall that a sophomore and red shirt freshman were going to play before him. Hard to fault anyone involved.
            “I used to be with it. But then they changed what it was. Now what I’m with isn’t it, and what’s it seems scary and wierd. It’ll happen to you.” — Abe Simpson

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            • #96
              Re: UC-Davis Game Day Thread

              Originally posted by da_coach View Post
              In regards to Gandy's performance so far... from what I've seen on the net and heard on the radio (and I wasn't able to attend Sat's game), pretty much every time he's gotten the ball he's been leveled. One of the hits last week, Tyler M. made a comment that Gandy was lucky to hold on to the ball as he got lit up the moment he got the handoff. Can't see how that's his fault.

              Also, and this is just human nature, not condoning it, but there could be a bit of a letdown in the O line when Zenner goes out. But it has been mentioned nearly every time Gandy has gotten a hand off, that he's "hit right at the line of scrimmage". And that doesn't happen to Zach every play. Sometimes it does, and Zach breaks the tackle...but they are different styles of runners. I still think Gandy has great potential.

              The defense is really showing something. Starting a couple redshirt freshmen, and others contributing. And we don't have to blitz much, because the front four are doing a nice job of penetrating. But I know we're blitzing more than 3 times a game when our redshirt freshman middle linebacker gets four sacks. This defense could be special.
              Gandy's really young yet,i have faith in him that he'll continue to improve as he gains experience,same with Kline and all the young inexperienced players.

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              • #97
                Re: UC-Davis Game Day Thread

                Originally posted by jackdaniel View Post
                Gandy's really young yet,i have faith in him that he'll continue to improve as he gains experience,same with Kline and all the young inexperienced players.
                No doubt. Just to clarify, I wasn't knocking the current "young and inexperienced players with talent and upside", I was lamenting the fact that we don't have "experienced or proven" backups. I understand that many programs are lacking in this area, it just seems like in recent years SDSU is woefully deplete of depth at specialty positions.
                We are here to add what we can to life, not get what we can from life. -Sir William Osler

                We do not see things as they are, we see things as we are.

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                • #98
                  Re: UC-Davis Game Day Thread

                  Originally posted by jackmd View Post
                  No doubt. Just to clarify, I wasn't knocking the current "young and inexperienced players with talent and upside", I was lamenting the fact that we don't have "experienced or proven" backups. I understand that many programs are lacking in this area, it just seems like in recent years SDSU is woefully deplete of depth at specialty positions.
                  I was going to say this earlier but didn't. Isnt it this years redshirt juniors or seniors that State basically lost an entire class? That's where your depth issue is.

                  Stig has publicly stated that the last two classes have been great for SDSU. Things should be really good with one more class following this one. That's why I think this year is so important in terms of taking that next step and with recruiting. The product needs to come through on the field.
                  Disclaimer: This post may contain assumptions and/or opinions related to Jackrabbit Athletics.

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                  • #99
                    Re: UC-Davis Game Day Thread

                    I'm watching Midco's "Jackrabbit Journal" as I write this post. Just before a commercial break, Stig was asked about punting. He said the guys know they are supposed to plant their heels on the 10 and if the ball is going past them, they don't wave fair catch, they don't try to catch it, they just move in the opposite direction of the ball. (He commented that everyone in the stands knows that's the rule.) He noted it's nice to win when making mistakes like that because those mistakes are fixable.

                    I was at the game Saturday. I watched the Jackrabbit Insider Sunday night. Last night I watched the game (had DVR'd it). Tonight, watching the game highlights on Jackrabbit Journal, I get more optimistic each time I see plays from the UC-Davis game. Walking out of CAS Saturday, the best I could think of was "lackluster" but that's wrong. Credit UC-Davis with some stiff defense and some very athletic guys. The better team won but we had a battle on our hands. Overall, a nice win.

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