NCAA Regional at Oregon

[jackmd]

Re: NCAA Regional at Oregon

The other issue with errors behind a pitcher is they add to the pitch count sometimes affecting how late into the game a pitcher can go.

No argument from me. Layne pitched a whale of a game and did more than enough to allow the Jackrabbits to win like he did in everyone of his starts. It takes more than great pitching to win some games.

[76Rabbit]

Re: NCAA Regional at Oregon

The other issue with errors behind a pitcher is they add to the pitch count sometimes affecting how late into the game a pitcher can go.

[jackmd]

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I agree,that's why i mentioned i hate to bring it up,you're probably right,a usually good fielding first baseman has a rare error,it happens with the best of teams,even a golden glove major leaguer will sometimes commit an error.It just bothered me it was an unearned run,without a single hit to help advance the runner.

I'm right there with you. I was a pitcher, not a very good one, and every error hurt me tremendously because of my inability to rebound and make smart pitches to the next guys. Layne is a great pitcher and should be able to overcome an error. Oregon must have known they could run on the Jacks because they didn't hesitate to take 2nd and 3rd which set them up to score on a WP. Pretty aggressive base running in my estimation.

It was a lot of fun, nerve racking, but fun to watch the game on ESPN3. I only wish the weather and my time commitments would have allowed me to see Layne pitch in person.

[jackdaniel]

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I may be wrong but I think the Machbitz only had 3 errors all season before the Oregon game. A lot of game transpired after that error. The critical mistakes were the walk and the HBP in front of their best, most clutch RBI guy in the bottom of the 8th. Besides, the unearned run didn't occur just because of the error. There were 2 stolen bases and a WP by Somsen. The game could have easily been won despite the error. Errors happen, you have to minimize the damage. Jacks just didn't do enough of that, didn't finish the game.

I agree,that's why i mentioned i hate to bring it up,you're probably right,a usually good fielding first baseman has a rare error,it happens with the best of teams,even a golden glove major leaguer will sometimes commit an error.It just bothered me it was an unearned run,without a single hit to help advance the runner.

[jackmd]

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This would have only tied the game if not for the ground ball down the first base line earlier in the contest ,called by the game commentators as a routine out,that got by to put the unearned run on base (1st maybe 2nd with no outs i believe? ) who eventually scored. Gave them hope when they were getting nothing from Somsen all game long.
We have to improve our fielding to support our pitching if we want to beat the high profile programs.I really didn't want to pick apart the effort by the team,but we have to acknowlege our short commings in order to improve .In defense,we hardly had any practice this unusual year,c'mon indoor Human Performance Center.

I may be wrong but I think the Machbitz only had 3 errors all season before the Oregon game. A lot of game transpired after that error. The critical mistakes were the walk and the HBP in front of their best, most clutch RBI guy in the bottom of the 8th. Besides, the unearned run didn't occur just because of the error. There were 2 stolen bases and a WP by Somsen. The game could have easily been won despite the error. Errors happen, you have to minimize the damage. Jacks just didn't do enough of that, didn't finish the game.

[jackdaniel]

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We gave up two hits in the game and three runs! It would take an idiot to not realize that we should have beaten Oregon in the first game. Two mistakes by our pitchers followed by one of their hits.

This would have only tied the game if not for the ground ball down the first base line earlier in the contest ,called by the game commentators as a routine out,that got by to put the unearned run on base (1st maybe 2nd with no outs i believe? ) who eventually scored. Gave them hope when they were getting nothing from Somsen all game long.
We have to improve our fielding to support our pitching if we want to beat the high profile programs.I really didn't want to pick apart the effort by the team,but we have to acknowlege our short commings in order to improve .In defense,we hardly had any practice this unusual year,c'mon indoor Human Performance Center.

[Nidaros]

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I see no reason why SDSU can't be the premiere baseball program in the upper Midwest.

I do not either.

[valleyrabbit]

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I see no reason why SDSU can't be the premiere baseball program in the upper Midwest.

[6-4-3 Jackrabbit]

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I'm enjoying all the talk on the baseball page. This athletic program needs to find a way to win one of these type of games. State baseball is now on the radar and they will find it harder down the road to sneak up on someone in the tournament (See men's basketball 2013 NCAA Tournament).Hopefully this tournament showing will help bring many more good players to Brookings to compete for the Rabbits. The Rabbits received a lot of pub during the Twins broadcast on Saturday and Sunday. Great for recruiting the Upper Midwest.As a fan base we should be disappointed in the result but proud of State's effort. As stated earlier SDSU needs to find a way to win one of these games.GO RABBITS!

[MontanaRabbit]

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I hope this doesn't engender another Modslap or threaten someone's lunch, but I agree, 95 percent. The caveat: the Baylor Big Dance game was winnable, too, and it was okay to be disappointed we didn't pull that one out. Folks might disagree, but to refresh memories, the Jacks were down by 4 with 1:14 to play. It would have taken some breaks - a turnover, a pressure trey, etc. - but it was winnable. Chad White said after that game: "We came into this game expecting to win, and we had our chances." If that's arrogant or surreal, I'll take it over just-happy-to-be-here any day of the week..
I bet all the Jacks' players in Eugene thought they should have won both games, and that they felt before the games they had a good chance. The transition is over and it's not bad to be disappointed when they lose close ones. That's all I was saying.

We gave up two hits in the game and three runs! It would take an idiot to not realize that we should have beaten Oregon in the first game. Two mistakes by our pitchers followed by one of their hits.

[jackmd]

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Jackrabbits should have won both games despite making some HUGE mistakes. The biggest mistakes in game one were the walk to lead of the 8th and even more so the HBP on the 2nd guy with a 2 strike count, (he made no attempt to move and was awarded 1st base please refer to our first batter). The E3's were bad but they happened early so that enough transpired to make them essentially irrelevant at the point in the bottom of the 8th with the one guy waiting in the wings that you can't let beat you. Jackrabbits should have, could have, would have.........but didn't. It is very disappointing. Still a very proud alumni and fan just wanting more.

[witness]

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Agreed. The sports establishment tends to write off relative newcomers to D-1 such as SDSU, but the Jacks have proven several times and on multiple fronts that they belong. Winning is the next step. That and convincing fans in the Upper Midwest to get over their inferiority complex.

I'm so tired of this inferiority complex. Jacks had a chance to win both games and flat out blew the first game. Why be just happy they got there when they had chances at both games.

[NoVaJack]

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Agreed. The sports establishment tends to write off relative newcomers to D-1 such as SDSU, but the Jacks have proven several times and on multiple fronts that they belong. Winning is the next step. That and convincing fans in the Upper Midwest to get over their inferiority complex.

What I was trying to say, only better.

[NoVaJack]

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I think you're looking at this wrong. If it was just about any other sport than baseball then I'd agree with you, but in baseball it takes one good outing by a pitcher to win a game. I believe Nova is looking at it in retrospect of how the games played out and I agree with him. It was disappointing because both games were winnable (for that game, that night, etc.)Would SDSU win 7 out of 10? Most likely not, but those games were both winnable this past weekend in Oregon.

I hope this doesn't engender another Modslap or threaten someone's lunch, but I agree, 95 percent. The caveat: the Baylor Big Dance game was winnable, too, and it was okay to be disappointed we didn't pull that one out. Folks might disagree, but to refresh memories, the Jacks were down by 4 with 1:14 to play. It would have taken some breaks - a turnover, a pressure trey, etc. - but it was winnable. Chad White said after that game: "We came into this game expecting to win, and we had our chances." If that's arrogant or surreal, I'll take it over just-happy-to-be-here any day of the week..
I bet all the Jacks' players in Eugene thought they should have won both games, and that they felt before the games they had a good chance. The transition is over and it's not bad to be disappointed when they lose close ones. That's all I was saying.

[witness]

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I'm not sure how you couldn't watch the games and realize that the Jacks flat out blew game 1 against Oregon and had a very good shot at winning game 2.... Unless you didn't watch the games

I compare baseball to hockey. Just like having a hot goaltender, a pitcher that is on can decide the game and have upsets happen.